At least the following tracks will be classics when receiving retro-status:
RJ, ONNYA, LMDS, Under The radar, You Dont Have To Mean It, Wanna Hold You,
Out Of Control, Love is Strong, YGMR, Thru And Thru.
and possibly Losing My Touch, Saint Of Me, I Go Wild.

Love Is Strong

I havn't read every post in this thread, so forgive me if someone has pointed this out earlier.............

Start Me Up was written mid-70s.

Yes, as performed in '81, very immediate and clearly'Hit' material, but I always found it rather obvious and contrived, (particularly the hand claps at the end). Undeniably a 'classic' though.

As others have said, songs can develop into this status through exposure in the set list.

It surprises me that Out Of Control isn't given more exposure - it sounded pretty classic from 97-99. Almost Hear You Sigh is quite powerful live. One Hit is the last innovative, fresh rocker that they did, but it never worked live.

Slipping Away is almost a classic. Out Of Tears I consider a classic, even without live exposure. Yup, I'd say OOT is their last classic creation, in which they sound 'huge' and develop something which totally transcends them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-20 13:34 by Four Stone Walls.

Yeah, FSW, forgot Slipping Away
Also forgot She Was Hot.
Ohe Hit... may also be counted in, even if its not a fav of mine.

It's weird how even when we are burning alternate ABB's everyione seems to adhere to the last song-by-Keith-rule.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Worried about you & Had it with you

Re-reading this thread, and thinking about the recent In Benefit Of Dirty Work -thread & the we DO love EmR thread, the creative production by our friends, and its quality, which has been considered relatively pour after Some Girls/Tattoo You era, is to be considered not that pour at all.

It seems that there is a kind of general consensus, that on first sight, or listen, it appears to be pour after Tattoo You, but giving it a fair chance and second opinion, a lot of gems turn up. One Hit, Down i/t Hole, All About You, half ABB, a lot of VL, B2B-songs, and many more are really loved and cherished.

So now from today on Black and Blue has its own We Love You thread, it is official: there has never been an era that is less golden than all the others!
Oh, well, before it is really official, maybe Nikki needs to admit he DOES love Goats Head Soup. If you do that Nikki, I won't ask you to admit you have drift Away as your ringtone ;-)

The Stones have never been dead, they should never have been considered 'dead' in the 80's, may they nonetheless keep reviving many more times!

Jelle

ChelseaDrugstore Wrote:
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> It's weird how even when we are burning alternate
> ABB's everyione seems to adhere to the last
> song-by-Keith-rule.


Yes ChelseaDrugstore, you are right. I thought: if I burn the disc as proposed here, I would even add Hurricane at nr 12, after TPIE... ;-)

Jelle

ChelseaDrugstore Wrote:
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> everyione seems to adhere to the last song-by-Keith-rule.

If it's a ballad then it's IMO the best place. On live albums sure not. But generally: not too many rules. Hope they'd surprise us.

Thanks to you, Chelsea, I remembered TPIE as a classic.
I also believe Infamy may become a classic.

...The Worst must also be considered to be up there, musnt it?

But it all depends of the criteria of a classic.

No band, artist or songwriter no more writes the
kinds of classic they did back in the 60s. Its simple math;
too much music out there. Too much already made.

More songs might pop up; right now for an instance I'm listenin to a track
I had almost forgot - Out Of Tears.

Last real classic is Start me up or Miss you since start me up is older. Less known but classics are She was hot, Love is strong and Saint of me. Undercover of the night is almost. She's so cold is a fayrly well known classic.

if you define "classic song" as considered as such by a large public, then it is - no doubt about it - SMU! (even though i personally appreciate One hit, Love is strong, etc. even more!)

Hurriganes Wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, wish they'd have dropped out some
> "goddesinadoorway-albumlike" crap from ABB. Then
> it could've been a classic and in their top-5
> studioalbums.
>
> For example:
>
> SOL out
> SSMC out
> BM out
> DB out
> LIND renew some lyrics
> DTF out
> Infamy out
>
> > To accompany the single The Stones could've also
> ran wild with
> > a filthy rock video for Rough Justice and a
> blues like vid
> > for Back Of My Hand
>
>
> SOL-video is just horrible.


Crap....SOL isn't that horrible.....you can hate the lyrics or even the song...............BUT............the vocal is stunning....if it was more like Godess then it would have been a runaway hit. I think you forget that with the exception of 3 songs......pretty much the rest of the album is Mick with "some" add ons from the others......if you are looking to hang "blame" on this record..........then start a thread about how little Keith has contributed in the last 20 years..........as far as the single...........I agree.....Rough Justice would have been a better choice, and the video that WAS made but NEVER officially released of the band SHREDDING this song in a "live performance" would have been awesome

Rough Justice is gonna be one. You Got Me Rockin' and Don't Stop already is.

Out Of Control
Love Is Strong
Anybody Seen My Baby ?
Undercover Of The Night
Harlem Shuffle

crossfire Wrote:
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> StonesTod Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SMU is the undisputable answer. Nothing has
> come
> > close to achieving that status - and none will
> > ever again, it seems.
>
>
> Undisputable (god I love that word) based on your
> opinion and view. It's like you ignored all the
> things said (mainly by LeedLungs) regarding time
> and place the Stones were at in the 70's (and
> 80's) and all the contributing factors at play in
> adding to SMU's longevity. It would have been
> interesting to see what our thoughts would be now
> of some of the ABB tracks had they been released
> in 1979.
>

My opinion and view are also undisputable.

Mixed Emotions to me is a real classic... The fantastic rhythm by Keith (and Ron), the fantastic chorus, backup vocals, great great melodies, brilliant bridge...

I even find the 12" mix on Rarities is really rocking! It's their best remix ever done with a Stones song. Great guitars, soulfull organ, great backing vocals... everything is just fantastic. This song should be played very loud!

To me it's their most emotionally rock song ever done.

MuddyW, you're right that the mix of Mixed Emotions is great. Of course, it can't compeat with Undercover mix and Miss You mix. And Feel On Baby.

Start Me Up . For me, the last Keith universal achievement and testimony up to now.

"Thief in the night", someone wrote.

A classic?

Two chords and grunting?


Come on!!!

Mixed Emotions was a good song. It just suffers from some bad production. I would love to hear a completely redone version of that song!

good point Leedslungs on ME - it's a song that seems to have all the right parts, but in the end they don't add up to a classic. SW as a whole seems to suffer the same fate.

earlier I said Start Me Up, thats still my official answer, but Id also mention "she was hot". Its not quite in the same leauge as SMU but I think that it aslo has a classic quality. thats one of those songs I can and do listen to over and over again.



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She Was Hot had such a funny video too! I love it.

Nothing post Tattoo You stands up with the Stones best.

undercover!

from abb - Rough Justice and onnya of course. But It wont take long, Laugh i nearly died, and Driving too fast still sound awesome to me 10 months later.

Rip This Wrote:
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> Hurriganes Wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Yeah, wish they'd have dropped out some
> > "goddesinadoorway-albumlike" crap from ABB.
> Then
> > it could've been a classic and in their top-5
> > studioalbums.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > SOL out
> > SSMC out
> > BM out
> > DB out
> > LIND renew some lyrics
> > DTF out
> > Infamy out
> >
> > > To accompany the single The Stones could've
> also
> > ran wild with
> > > a filthy rock video for Rough Justice and a
> > blues like vid
> > > for Back Of My Hand
> >
> >
> > SOL-video is just horrible.
>
>
> Crap....SOL isn't that horrible.....you can hate
> the lyrics or even the
> song...............BUT............the vocal is
> stunning....if it was more like Godess then it
> would have been a runaway hit. I think you forget
> that with the exception of 3 songs......pretty
> much the rest of the album is Mick with "some" add
> ons from the others......if you are looking to
> hang "blame" on this record..........then start a
> thread about how little Keith has contributed in
> the last 20 years..........as far as the
> single...........I agree.....Rough Justice would
> have been a better choice, and the video that WAS
> made but NEVER officially released of the band
> SHREDDING this song in a "live performance" would
> have been awesome


What are you talking about?Last 20 years?Were you at all of these studio sessions?Have you heard the Voodoo Lounge outtakes?Do you know who was behind Almost Hear You Sigh?Low Down and Too Tight feature that classic Jagger guitar sound?
I agree that it seems Richards has become less involved but,only recently and just because he only showed up to the ABB sessions with the three songs,don't believe that Jagger brought 15 with him.While there are songs that are reminiscent of Jagger solo albums,there are other songs that it seems obvious Richards was involved in.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-21 02:25 by Theif in the Night.

Start Me Up, nothing come close after that.