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> > > I When I listened to ER as a kid
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> When I was 10/11. Who cares if I was born after
> ER came out. Doesnt make my opinion any less
> valid.


...just yanking yer chain...more to come....

All I can say is it is my 3rd favorite song of all time!

"She's got a mind of her own, yeah, and she use it mighty fine..."

don't leave us in suspense....lemme guess:

1) Streets of Love
2) You Got Me Rockin'



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T&A Wrote:
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> don't leave us in suspense....lemme guess:
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> 1) Streets of Love
> 2) You Got Me Rockin'


Wow, T & A is legitimate in his hatred for YGMR - he doesn't even realize that it's called You Got Me RockING

it's the dylanized version....

though it was You Got Me Folkin'

no, it was actually, You Got Me Folk-Rockin'

Leonard Keringer Wrote:
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> excellent atmospheric tune..........feels like
> your wandering in the u.s. southwestern
> desert.............too bad Dylan didn't write it
> with his own lyrics

About that Dylan reference. I have always thought that the song is a sort of Dylanisque attempt from Mick, and I think Mick had a specific Dylan song in mind. I mean, Dylan released a year earlier or something (1978) a song called "Senor (Tales of a Yankee Power)" that seems to have a same sort of topic: left wing Latin American politics. Of course, when Jaggerized, it needs to be about a girl... Also, like two years earlier with a song "Some Girls", Jagger is doing here his (drunken, over-interpreted) Dylan vocal mimics. I think the whole song is a mixed attempt to make a parody of Bob Dylan and still be a bit serious. Doesn't success neither way, though.

But a pervert as I am, I happen to like the song

- Doxa



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right, i forgot that that one was from AFTER he played newport . . .

I defy anyone here to claim that someone, somewhere, at some time, has not gotten them rockin'.... SO SHUT UP ABOUT THAT SONG! It is a chronicle of all of our lives.

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> It is a
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...all except mine

Why did everyone hated Indians? Because they were free spirits..and lived on land.wich others could use up.

That's a great song on a great album!

A couple of brilliant points:

1. I never thought about "Some Girls" as being Dylanesque, but it is.

2. Richard Pryor said that when the Europeans got to America, buffalo sh%t was everywhere.

Set yo' face on fire,
Just like Richard Pryor,
Cocaine

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> Why did everyone hated Indians? Because they were
> free spirits..and lived on land.wich others could
> use up.


whoa, rooster....who "hated Indians?" I've got Cherokee blood in my veins and damn proud of it.

That son of a biscuit eater Andrew Jackson, former US president, made our people walk the trail of tears, but since then, who hates us?

The KKK...Bush...And leonard peltier is still in jail...Thats all I want to say cause I dont wanna be banned...Cheers Luke!!!They did try atomic bombs in the desert..Indian land...I have a friend from Ireland who goes to..lots of Stones shows..he wears a cowboy hat..long hair..I always met him at Stones show ..maybe he even is on tell me...Oh sory Luke I forgot Im not in a bar!!On with the show!!

yeah, good point my friend....I've admired your appreciation for Native Americans in some of your earlier posts, especially since you're European (Dutch?).

Debra on this board also has "Indian" blood in her. I forget from which tribe. Debra?

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> yeah, good point my friend....I've admired your
> appreciation for Native Americans in some of your
> earlier posts, especially since you're European
> (Dutch?).
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> Debra on this board also has "Indian" blood in
> her. I forget from which tribe. Debra?

Do you know Suriname...Luke...my father who isnt here no more...was a half Arawak..indian/black man...in Peru and Florida you have Black indians...My mother is from the hague..Sheveningen...I saw my father only 5 times..I searht for him otherwise I woulnt have seen him..do you know that tribe ..Luke?I have a nice book for you ...Creek Mary s blood..by Dee Brown...yeah man the trail of tears...I know everything about that...those were big crimes against..very good people..Its a shame really...such a diverse people...Ronnie is deep into indian history too!!And Keith is a indian...Life just goes on and on getting harder and harder!!

great story my hen chasing friend!!! Now I understand, even better, your appreciation for Native Americans. Stand tall, my brother. I don't know "Suriname" or the Arawak tribe, but I shall look it up. I'll see if I can find Creek Mary's Blood in the library...party on.

Yes the trail of tears began largely in the NC mountains where I live today. They ended in Oklahoma where my mother grew up. It is a sad chapter in our American history.

Arawaks the first tribe..that met Columbus...they are still in Suriname on the islands..there was genocide. We had a threat about the Vikings..so Columbus wasnt even the first maybe.

Am I the first to point out that the "Indian" of the title is "West Indian" or "Carribean?" A designation which is, of course, the hangover of Columbus's mistaken belief that he had arrived at islands off the coast of Asia and of the Subcontinent.

Another reason why the term "Native American"--while not strictly precise, either--is a step up from earlier designations.

Anyway, NOT everybody does "hate" "Indian Girl."

I've a friend who tends bar at a great joint called The Dockside in Sag Harbor, NY. He makes sure that "Indian Girl" gets a spin at about 10:30--11:00pm every single night. It's a very popular ritual in a saloon full of Stones fans...

Now that's a bar I want to visit! I went to the Stones bar in Paris and didn't hear anything besides some warhorses . . .

Hey yeah Rev...sounds like a good bar....do they give Infamy a spin?

Once heard Robert Johnson being played in an organic food store...that was kinda weird...



ROCKMAN

it's even weirder to think of the ROCKMAN shopping at an organic food store . . .

Yeah....Yeah....I kid you not nikki

Nothing like ordering a Tofu ice-cream to Me And The Devil Blues....

Hi!....Can I help you?
Yeah gimmie a Mango Tofu please...single cone...

And in the background I hear...I said "Hello Satan I believe It's time to go"....



ROCKMAN

Those organic food cafê's have some great food....
But one time I was going for a coke too, they only had "organic coke". Tasted like puu-wii. Never went back.

I do remember Robert Hilburn and his other fools at The LA Times
very much looking forward to hearing INdian Girl, refered to from teasers
from the record company, as if it was supposed to be some grand political statement. In fact, I do believe he had a few paragraphs of his review of ER
focused about this song which turned out to be a minor track on the LP.
They did the same thing on Undercover regarding She Was Hot and the
"she was black" line. THey thought it was a big deal, when in fact no one cared.
Regarding Dylan's Senor (Tales of Yankee Power), I don;t hear any
left-wing Latin politics in that song. I hear that tune as a bridge between
the songs on Street Legal and Slow Train Coming.
IF you put that bracketed section after any song, it turns anything political.
That's where Dylan's pretty clever. MOre so than Springsteen.
Yellow Submarine (Tales of Yankee Power). Sure it's a political song.
That reminds me of either Tommy Boyce or Bobby HArt trying to pass off
Last Train To Clarksville as an anti-war song because there was
a military base near Clarksville, TN...only they didn't know that until
20 years after they wrote the song!