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Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: andrew9148 ()
Date: May 7, 2006 12:50

Raw Power an early 60's compilation. just great. anyone else have it

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: Charles ()
Date: May 7, 2006 16:21

Bassplayer and Stonestod,

I have been trying to get a copy on cd of "Landlocked/Adult child" for a while now. Do you guys have this one? I have the 4 disc Smile sessions box and that is great. I certainly am hoping that Brian does not drop the Wondermints and do a "Pet Sounds Reunion" with Mike Love and Al Jardine. I have heard that this is in talks right now.

As far as Stones go, I would love to hear "Stick Fingers" in mono from the WLP hard to find edition. Were there only 10 copies made?

The Dallas 31-10-81 show was my first Stones show and I got that one so that was my holy grail. I would love to hear more Keith & Tom Waits stuff, a new Keith solo album with Patty Smith (his voice sounds great with chicks!)

As far as other great unreleased stuff goes, I would love to hear *any* live recordings by Arthur Lee and Love from the golden year of 1967. No one will ever get to hear a live show show from Whiskey a gogo.

Oh and how about the complete unedited "Whatever happened to Vileness Fats" on dvd by the Residents. That one is way up there! Or how about a stage production of "Eskimo"?

Cheers,

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: mr. pitiful ()
Date: May 7, 2006 17:02

I'd love to hear the beginning stuff with Mick singing in Alexis Korner's band and the early gigs at the Marquee and the Station Hotel in London.

Re: outtakes etc
Posted by: Rock'NRollAngel ()
Date: May 7, 2006 19:25

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> back to these outtakes, etc. <<
>
> R&RAngel, i can't tell if you're asking about
> outtakes or about remastered stuff.
> if you mean outtakes: there's so much that's very
> fine! what era are you interested in?
> for 60s stuff (just for starters) one set i've
> always liked is More Stoned Than You'll Ever Be -
>
> three disks, not trying to be at all "complete",
> but very nice quality/presentation.
>
> and as long as i'm here ...
> i thought the notion that Mick's doing anything
> but the vocals on Highway Child had been pretty
> widely disavowed,
> debunked, dispelled, deconstructed, demolished or
> whatever the appropriate verb is.
> (i know the liner notes on that one bootleg say
> Mick's on guitar, but ... )
>
> Keith, be well


Forgive my inexperience, lack of technical knowledge, etc. Aren't there both remastered outtakes as well as remastered live recordings?

I'm interested in the best of these. Mick Taylor era for starters.

I will seek more information regarding Mick only doing vocals on Highway Child.

Thanks!


Rockman, That is the exact boot I was talking about. Now, I seemed to have misplaced my copy. Great! Must find this.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 7, 2006 19:31

don't need to seek more info on MJ with Highway Child - that IS him on guitar - you can take my word on that.

as for "remastered" anything bootleg-wise - it's a a murky world out there. Sister Morphine - the source of your Ft Worth disc - is very controversial in that way. When you're not dealing with original source material, there's not much that ANYONE can do to really improve on the sound. Having said that, I'm generally a fan of SM...they do pretty good work.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Date: May 7, 2006 21:35

Mathijs Wrote:
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> My holy grail would be that the Stones would
> finally release something interesting. We
> literally have thousands of bootlegs, so one or
> two more I don't find interesting (yes I would
> like to hear Denver '72, but it will be "just"
> another show, albeit a great one), I want shows in
> professional quality. For starters, I want L&G to
> be officially released. Then, release Brussels
> 1973 in a two CD digipack -disc one the entire
> Brussels show, on disc two the entire Wembley show
> (which they have). Release a box set with Fort
> Worth '78 on DVD and Handsome Girls as 3 CD's.
> Release Hampton officially. Release all Pathe
> Marconi '77 outtakes officialy with liner notes
> from Chris Kimsey. Release an Anthology set with
> outtakes, one set of 4 CD's for each period.
>
> That's what I want: good official releases.
>
> Mathijs


I would think that anything that they would release from the vaults would be "good" at the very least as far as sound quality goes.So then,from that point,they would just have to select shows with the best performance.Who's to say that all of these shows that are famous for good sound quality are better performance wise than shows that haven't surfaced?

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: IrelandCalling4 ()
Date: May 8, 2006 01:05

I'd like to add another personal choice for Holy-Grail of stones --

ANY video footage,obviously the more complete the better,of the Dublin shows from the LICKS extravaganza!

Odd that no DVD bootleg exists of either show -- given the relatively intimate setting(7,000 or so people),and,the slice of history -- that the stones hadn't played here since '82 -- methinks it would've been high on a lot of people's lists as shows to film.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: Charles ()
Date: May 8, 2006 04:21

Hello IrelandCalling4,

Yes I was at both of the shows in Dublin and they were the best Licks shows I had ever seen. Unforgettable and the crowd was insane!!!

Charles Baudelaire
1821--1867

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: chippy ()
Date: May 8, 2006 05:15

ill take L. A. Friday 75 dvd then Fort Worth 78 dvd in pristine quality , which ain't gonna happen


Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: johang ()
Date: May 8, 2006 05:56

I guess it will happen when Mick Jaggers grandchildren dies...

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: RoddyD ()
Date: May 8, 2006 12:08

Any video of the full Enmore show in '03. I understand it WAS recorded, professionally.

Rod
Perth

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: Tseverin ()
Date: May 8, 2006 12:42

English Summer (don't think it exists though, probably a rumour started by the Marianne Faithfull track of the same name, produced by Mick, from '67)

Everybody Needs Somebody To Love (15 minute studio version)

On film:
The Giorgio Gomelski film of them from '63 or '64 doing 3 nos.
Brixton '95 (the pro-shot version played at the Convention in '99)
NME Awards '68
Complete outtakes for Gimme Shelter
Complete outtakes for Stones In The Park (At least 3 extra songs exist & were rumoured to be coming out on a special edition last year)
Complete outtakes from Ladies & Gentlemen (I have 2 tracks - there must be more out there!)
Colour promo for Child Of The Moon
The raunchy outtakes from Performance with Mick & Anita (in Sandy Lieberson's safe apparently)

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: May 8, 2006 12:43

By the way, the Hampton '81 film is pure magic too.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: cosmoprim ()
Date: May 8, 2006 16:52

loog droog Wrote:
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> That was a cassette-only release on Twin Tone.
> Some guy in the crowd at a club gig was taping a
> show with a little hand-held recorder, and when it
> was over one of the Replacements (or one of their
> people) jumped into the audience and took the tape
> from the guy.
>
> And then they put it out themselves.
>
> I remember it had some 70's covers like "Taking
> Care of Business" and "Hitchin' a Ride" on it.
>
> At their live shows, Bob Stinson was the glue that
> held them together. The first time (and only)
> time I saw them with Slim I left before the show
> ended.
>
> Without Bob, they sucked.

Right - I remember it being only on tape. That always cracked me up. Thyanks for the other info. Takin'Care Of Business, huh? That, I would love to hear.

Never got to see them with Bob, but I did see them on my 17th birthday at the Ritz (NYC) - general admission, and I ended up right up against the stage. Don't have any non-Slim show to compare it to, but they were hot that night.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: aplata ()
Date: May 13, 2006 18:59

I would love to get that sly stuff from you are you looking to trade?

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: La Mano Nera ()
Date: May 13, 2006 22:07

Apparently, an old recording of some songs by Mick and Keith's old band (with Dick Taylor etc.) was sold at auction a while ago. That would really be something.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: May 14, 2006 03:17

For me it would be the '81 St. Louis show, since that's the only show I attended that I don't have a copy of, and it seems to be about the only '81 show that doesn't have a boot floating around somewhere.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: Jimmie ()
Date: May 14, 2006 03:21

LA FORUM Wrote:
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> Everything Brian recorded on his own
> A CD release of A Degree of murder


I agree compleatly!!

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: theanchorman ()
Date: May 14, 2006 05:22

Mathijs Wrote:
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> I want shows in
> professional quality. For starters, I want L&G to
> be officially released. Then, release Brussels
> 1973 in a two CD digipack -disc one the entire
> Brussels show, on disc two the entire Wembley show
> (which they have).
> Mathijs

These shows are already available in near mint quality

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: theanchorman ()
Date: May 14, 2006 05:24

cosmoprim Wrote:
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> Stones-Wise?
> The rumored 30 minute version of Just Wanna See
> His Face

Never heard of this??? Where did u hear about it?

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: cosmoprim ()
Date: May 15, 2006 17:35

aplata Wrote:
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> I would love to get that sly stuff from you are
> you looking to trade?


I don't have it - I'm looking for it.
Sorry if my post was misleading

theanchorman Wrote:
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> Never heard of this??? Where did u hear about it?


I read about this somewhere - whatever the source was alleged that the version on the album (that fades in & out) came from a long long jam.

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: theanchorman ()
Date: May 18, 2006 05:20

cosmoprim Wrote:
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> aplata Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would love to get that sly stuff from you are
> > you looking to trade?
>
>
> I don't have it - I'm looking for it.
> Sorry if my post was misleading
>
> theanchorman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Never heard of this??? Where did u hear about
> it?
>
>
> I read about this somewhere - whatever the source
> was alleged that the version on the album (that
> fades in & out) came from a long long jam.


guess that is possible...

Re: The Holy Grail of Bootleg/Unreleased/Live
Posted by: scaffer ()
Date: May 18, 2006 09:19

Mathjis:

We idolize you!

Yes, Brussels '73, Forth Worth '78, etc.

And since I was there, how about the Winterland shows '72?

AND HOW ABOUT THE COMPLETE ALTAMONT SOUNDBOARD?!?!?!?!

I bet if Keef proves unable to continue, Mick will start releasing these gems every year, in order to rake in even more tens of millions.

In any case, if anyone can find Dallas or Auburn '69, these have to be worth their weight in gasoline!

FYI to everyone: it appears Chicago '69 has been found, and it's a pretty good performance. However, the quality of the recording I have is pitiful. Anyone have something decent?

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