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What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
SFTD
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Date: May 4, 2006 21:05
Apparently there is a boot with this title.
Does anybody have the tracklisting ?? Is it different from the boot called " Unreleased Decca Live Album 1972 "
Can anybody help ??
SFTD
Does anybody have the tracklisting ?? Is it different from the boot called " Unreleased Decca Live Album 1972 "
Can anybody help ??
SFTD
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
stone-relics
()
Date: May 4, 2006 21:07
Its the same thing...Stones wanted to release a double LP of the tour, 1 LP with the Stones the other of Stevie Wonder....Too many legal hassels...but its all out anyway on boots...
JR
JR
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
MCDDTLC
()
Date: May 4, 2006 21:30
And is one of the BEST FUCXING Live records ever recorded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MLC
MLC
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
tatters
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Date: May 4, 2006 22:05
It's not lost. It's merely been misplaced.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
OpenG
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Date: May 4, 2006 22:08
Its non stop VAROOM and VIBRATO
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
MCDDTLC
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Date: May 4, 2006 22:16
MUCHO VIBRATO with an ASS-KICKIN rhythm section....
MLC
MLC
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
S.T.P
()
Date: May 4, 2006 23:25
stone-relics Wrote:
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> Its the same thing...Stones wanted to release a
> double LP of the tour, 1 LP with the Stones the
> other of Stevie Wonder....Too many legal
> hassels...
-It was supposed to be three sides of the Stones and one with Stevie Wonder + Uptight/Satsifaction as the encore.
>but its all out anyway on boots...
-There are soundboard recordings from some of the concerts which were recorded for the album, although there are at least two (Houston) missing. There are also some recordings which have been worked on in studio with overdubs. Most likely these are "leftovers" that won't be used in a future release. In general the boots are not even close to be compared with an official release from this period. The Stones had the best mobile recorder in the world at that time, and also they probably did a lot of overdubbing. Theoretically there are probably nothing available out on bootlegs that is close to what a future release would sound like...
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> Its the same thing...Stones wanted to release a
> double LP of the tour, 1 LP with the Stones the
> other of Stevie Wonder....Too many legal
> hassels...
-It was supposed to be three sides of the Stones and one with Stevie Wonder + Uptight/Satsifaction as the encore.
>but its all out anyway on boots...
-There are soundboard recordings from some of the concerts which were recorded for the album, although there are at least two (Houston) missing. There are also some recordings which have been worked on in studio with overdubs. Most likely these are "leftovers" that won't be used in a future release. In general the boots are not even close to be compared with an official release from this period. The Stones had the best mobile recorder in the world at that time, and also they probably did a lot of overdubbing. Theoretically there are probably nothing available out on bootlegs that is close to what a future release would sound like...
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
MCDDTLC
()
Date: May 4, 2006 23:38
STP - Let's hope!!
And hope these guys will "offically" release something from their "GOLDEN"
period!!!
MLC
And hope these guys will "offically" release something from their "GOLDEN"
period!!!
MLC
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
S.T.P
()
Date: May 4, 2006 23:42
MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> STP - Let's hope!!
>
> And hope these guys will "offically" release
> something from their "GOLDEN"
> period!!!
>
> MLC
Yes indeed
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> STP - Let's hope!!
>
> And hope these guys will "offically" release
> something from their "GOLDEN"
> period!!!
>
> MLC
Yes indeed
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
mr edward
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Date: May 5, 2006 09:58
Great album! One of the best!
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
phd
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Date: May 5, 2006 10:55
What a track list. Would have been #1 if released. A wonderful follow-up to Get Yer.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
tatters
()
Date: May 5, 2006 15:27
Once again, this IS NOT a bootleg of the unreleased live album that is in the Stones vaults. It is a chopped up rehash of tracks from other, better, '72 bootlegs.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Greenblues
()
Date: May 18, 2006 15:35
Who wouldn't love to hear the finished results?
Referring to the "leftovers": You talk about some of the tracks on "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly"? There seem to be some overdubs on that one.
Referring to the "leftovers": You talk about some of the tracks on "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly"? There seem to be some overdubs on that one.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
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Date: May 18, 2006 15:38
"Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly" is basically the CD release of some old albums like "Keep Your Motor Runnin", which was released long time ago. Yes, there's overdubs there. Very prominent on Tumbling Dice...that comes to mind immediately.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
LA FORUM
()
Date: May 18, 2006 18:56
Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly" is basically the
> CD release of some old albums like "Keep Your
> Motor Runnin", which was released long time ago.
> Yes, there's overdubs there. Very prominent on
> Tumbling Dice...that comes to mind immediately.
Now this is interesting. They did overdubs on material never released? Why?
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> "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly" is basically the
> CD release of some old albums like "Keep Your
> Motor Runnin", which was released long time ago.
> Yes, there's overdubs there. Very prominent on
> Tumbling Dice...that comes to mind immediately.
Now this is interesting. They did overdubs on material never released? Why?
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: May 18, 2006 19:01
LA FORUM Wrote:
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> Now this is interesting. They did overdubs on
> material never released? Why?
They wanted to release a double-album with Stevie Wonder on one side at least, and rest Stones.
But Allen Klein wouldn't let them release new versions of Decca-songs, the first 5 years after leaving Decca. That's why they had to wait until "Love You Live". But, they did try to put it together...a bit...or perhaps they did they overdubs in their "free time".
But there's several overdubs...both guitars and piano, at least.
But there are other posters here who are experts on 1972.
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> Now this is interesting. They did overdubs on
> material never released? Why?
They wanted to release a double-album with Stevie Wonder on one side at least, and rest Stones.
But Allen Klein wouldn't let them release new versions of Decca-songs, the first 5 years after leaving Decca. That's why they had to wait until "Love You Live". But, they did try to put it together...a bit...or perhaps they did they overdubs in their "free time".
But there's several overdubs...both guitars and piano, at least.
But there are other posters here who are experts on 1972.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
bruno
()
Date: May 18, 2006 19:08
Besides instrumental overdubs, some studio-mixed versions feature "new" backing vocals on some songs, too: at least Tumbling Dice and All Down The Line do, as Keef didn't sing backing vocals live on these songs back in 1972.
[There'll be no wedding today...]
[There'll be no wedding today...]
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Beelyboy
()
Date: May 19, 2006 05:05
this version of All Down The Line absolutely kills me...
kills me...
incredible...gawd it rocks...unbelievable...
sounds like the band speeds up like crazy during mick's guitar solo...
then just crazy hot....crazy hot. wow.
keith is fierce here...the whole band is...
this is just amazing music.
kills me...
incredible...gawd it rocks...unbelievable...
sounds like the band speeds up like crazy during mick's guitar solo...
then just crazy hot....crazy hot. wow.
keith is fierce here...the whole band is...
this is just amazing music.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
ChelseaDrugstore
()
Date: May 19, 2006 08:04
Allen Klein was supposedly the reason it was not released. I rememebr sepcifically reading in an intyerview where Jagger said that YCAGWYW was one of the songs in debate. That Klein was not letting go of.
"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."
"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
silkcut1978
()
Date: May 19, 2006 09:04
Greenblues Wrote:
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> Who wouldn't love to hear the finished results?
So why don't you try to get a copy? It's out there for more then 30 years by now as there's a tape of a radio broadcast - see what Nico writes about it:
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11th August 1972 THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source, July 1972
Note: Some dates and places are unsure.
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To my knowledge this broadcast is not available on a CD (CDr only!) as the quality is very low-fi.
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> Who wouldn't love to hear the finished results?
So why don't you try to get a copy? It's out there for more then 30 years by now as there's a tape of a radio broadcast - see what Nico writes about it:
--------------
11th August 1972 THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source, July 1972
Note: Some dates and places are unsure.
---------------------------------------
To my knowledge this broadcast is not available on a CD (CDr only!) as the quality is very low-fi.
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Luke33
()
Date: May 19, 2006 11:47
WHEN does the Klein rights issue stop ??
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
S.T.P
()
Date: May 19, 2006 17:47
Luke33 Wrote:
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> WHEN does the Klein rights issue stop ??
They did, in 1976...
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> WHEN does the Klein rights issue stop ??
They did, in 1976...
Re: What is the " The Lost Live Album " from 1972
Posted by:
Tornandfrayed
()
Date: May 19, 2006 18:55
silkcut1978 Wrote:
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> see what Nico writes about it:
>
> --------------
>
> 11th August 1972 THE ROLLING STONES. US radio
> (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
> Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour
> live-album.
>
> - You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) -
> Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
> - Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72,
> 1st show
> - Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st
> show
> - Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
> - Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st
> show
> - Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry
> Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source,
> July 1972
> Note: Some dates and places are unsure.
All of these tracks are available on VGP´s "Keep Your Motor Running" CD (and none of them on the phoney "Unreleased Decca Live Album" Disc).
All Down The Line is from Philadelphia 07-21-72 (2nd show), not from Houston.
Rip This Joint is from one of the 07-21 Philly shows and not from Ft. Worth.
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> see what Nico writes about it:
>
> --------------
>
> 11th August 1972 THE ROLLING STONES. US radio
> (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
> Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour
> live-album.
>
> - You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) -
> Houston 25.6.72, 1st show
> - Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.7.72,
> 1st show
> - Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.6.72, 1st
> show
> - Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st show
> - Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Rip This Joint (MJ/KR)-Fort Worth 24.6.72, 1st
> show
> - Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.7.72
> - Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry
> Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR) -unidentified source,
> July 1972
> Note: Some dates and places are unsure.
All of these tracks are available on VGP´s "Keep Your Motor Running" CD (and none of them on the phoney "Unreleased Decca Live Album" Disc).
All Down The Line is from Philadelphia 07-21-72 (2nd show), not from Houston.
Rip This Joint is from one of the 07-21 Philly shows and not from Ft. Worth.
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