Have heard a few boots of the 81 tour.

Whilst I appreciate them from an historical perspective, and obviously NOTHING makes up for actually BEING there, god, they were bloody awful in those days. I lke my Stones ragged alright, but these boots show they were ragged AND sloppy. Jagger's vocals in particualr were rushed and breathless...

Today's Stones (from Steel Wheels tour I'd guess) are ragged and LOOSE and just get the balance right!

To my ears anyways...

Rgds
Rod
Perth

I respectfully disagree. I really like their sound from this period. I like Ernie Watts contribution. The use of sax on songs that didn't have any before or since was cool. songs like You Cant Always Get and Beast of Burden. I like jaggers vocals, sounds like hes having a lot of fun. everyone sounds good. Overall I like the 81 stones. also I heard a boot from 81 in philedelphia. they sounded pretty ragged, in a good way.



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The very last time they actually "toured" (meaning working hard at promotion) behind an album. Not since have they been at that creative and commercial peak.

The Stones now are a good greatest warhorse band, but I feel sorry for folks who didn't get to seem them when they were still a "working" band. 1981 was the last Great tour...No way around it. Everything since has been coasting tours.

#......Go ahead....Bite the Big Apple....Don't mind the Maggots.....Uh Huh...#

the '81 versions of Lets Spend the Night Together and Under my Thumb alone refutes Roddy's post.

nikkibong Wrote:
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> the '81 versions of Lets Spend the Night Together
> and Under my Thumb alone refutes Roddy's post.


LOL

Rgds
Rod

gut Wrote:
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> >
> The Stones now are a good greatest warhorse band,
> but I feel sorry for folks who didn't get to seem
> them when they were still a "working" band. 1981
> was the last Great tour...No way around it.
> Everything since has been coasting tours.
>
> #......Go ahead....Bite the Big Apple....Don't
> mind the Maggots.....

theres a certian edge thats gone after 81 for sure, but

Coasting? I just dont see it that way. they play the hits, deeper album cuts and 4 new songs. shows average 2 hours. sounds like a working band to me Jimmy!

Aw no no Roddy that WA sun has got ya ole fella.....the 81 stuuff is full throttle rock&roll all the way....virtually the same set list ever night but they cook like a mother....

Get yaself a copy of Hal Ashby's Lets Spend the Night Together or the Hampton boot DVD ....Mick works like a sexed up mad dog while Keith pulls nasty riffs from somewhere down around his crutch area....Or track down the Nov 20th Cedar Falls gig talk about ragged...well it sure is but hell it's rockin' stuff.....


Rockford - Photo Philip Kamin



ROCKMAN

nonsence, the post 82 live stones are a shell of those days

Got LSTNT and Hampton DVD, haven't played either in ages, I'll ahve a look see tonite to 'clarify' my thoughts, but the boots (audios) that I have been listening to over past few days are just painful, sorry to say.

I think maybe peeps thinks that because they LOOKED cool in 81, they were, but I think that whilst they LOOK like r'n'r, but played awfully.

Ain't no sunshine....affecting me matey!! BUT...it MAY be my age!!! Though, listening to Rambler off the Unreleased Decca album LOUDLY, and thinking "I am in Stones Heaven", seems to make me think my faculties are all right!!!

;-)

Rgds
Rod

Your alright matey.....just that I lurv the 81 stuff.

Are ya only goin' to Sydney or are ya doin' Melbourne also...?



ROCKMAN

Mate, truth be known, I just love all their eras...from first hearing Route 66 on my crytal set from the UK in Perth in 65. Showing my age! They've been my (musical) life for 41 years (along with...Bruce)
At this stage A1, row P Sydney only....

Rgds
Rod
Perth

Well try to get to Melbourne it's gonna be the show to catch...and with Theo in town for Grand Prix they'll tear the joint apart. Did ya see her on the Today show this morning? Said she was flying to catch their Shanghai gig then back for Sydney and Melbourne shows.....



ROCKMAN

New York 1981....Photo Mark Kamin



ROCKMAN

Ummm....ignorance is showing matey....Theo????

Missed Today show this am as well.....

Rod

Keith's daughter Theodora is this years Ambassador for the Melbourne Grand Prix.

Check here Rod.........[iorr.org]



ROCKMAN

The Stones were superior in'81, but they died shortly thereafter.
They were already on their way down in the publics eye, but this was the stake in the heart.
They haven't been the same since.

aaaaahhhhhh....Tks Rockman!!!

Rgds n tks
Rod

this thread made me listen to hampton boot. it COOKS. bill is on fire on shattered. makes me wish i had gotten a chance to see the stones before bill left the band . .



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> . . .too bad he left the band when i was three!


Bill officially quit in 1993. I thought you said you were 19?

erikjjf Wrote:
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> nikkibong Wrote:
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> > . . .too bad he left the band when i was
> three!
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>
> Bill officially quit in 1993. I thought you said
> you were 19?


sorry, was thinking he left in '89. corrected the mistake.

=======Coasting? I just dont see it that way. they play the hits, deeper album cuts and 4 new songs. shows average 2 hours. sounds like a working band to me Jimmy!========

Well 1981 provided an abundance of songs played live from their previous 3 albums in only a 3 year period, Some Girls,Emotional Rescue and Tatoo You:

Miss You
Beast of Burden
Shattered
Imagination
Let Me Go
Hang Fire
Start Me Up
Waiting On A Friend
Little T and A

Whereas later tours only have a smattering of semi-recent tracks from albums spaced decades apart (barely 6 new studio albums in 25 years....) Not a good track record.





#......Go ahead....Bite the Big Apple....Don't mind the Maggots.....Uh Huh...#

gut Wrote:
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> Well 1981 provided an abundance of songs played live from their previous 3 albums in only a 3 year period, Some Girls,Emotional Rescue and Tatoo You:
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> Miss You
> Beast of Burden
> Shattered
> Imagination
> Let Me Go
> Hang Fire
> Start Me Up
> Waiting On A Friend
> Little T and A

Plus When The Whip Comes Down, She's So Cold, Neighbours, Black Limousine (and Tops played three times).

Go take a walk!! '81 was cool and tight as hell! What are you on?!?

Rock music doesn´t get ANY better from 81 tour.They looked like rock n rollers.
NOW?
Now they play adult rock,and also dress like that.

Tight as hell? Respectfully disagree...

And in my opinion the worst version of YCAGWYW ever...

But Beast Of Burden, Miss You, Under My Thumb , going to a Go Go and the superb version of Time is on My side were super performances.

Great energy but too sloppy sometimes...

What bootlegs did you listen too? They had some sloppy concerts, yes. But most were awesome. Download Phoenix of Rocks Off and then say it isn't tight!!

========Rock music doesn´t get ANY better from 81 tour.They looked like rock n rollers. =======

All that plus Ian Stewart and McLagen on piano....couldn't get better.


========NOW? Now they play adult rock,and also dress like that.=======
Its just spectacle now. Jagger looks ridiculous but he's always looked that way.

#......Go ahead....Bite the Big Apple....Don't mind the Maggots.....Uh Huh...#

gut Wrote:
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> The very last time they actually "toured" (meaning
> working hard at promotion) behind an album. Not
> since have they been at that creative and
> commercial peak.
>
> The Stones now are a good greatest warhorse band,
> but I feel sorry for folks who didn't get to seem
> them when they were still a "working" band. 1981
> was the last Great tour...No way around it.
> Everything since has been coasting tours.
>
> #......Go ahead....Bite the Big Apple....Don't
> mind the Maggots.....Uh Huh...#

I couldn't have said it better. Since the 1981 tour they have become a musical performance instead of a rock 'n' roll concert.

Don't you think its sometimes wise not to grow up.

Tight as hell? No. But, that's never been a particular strong-suit of this band, even on a good night. But, '81 was surely the last great, real rock'n'roll tour by the GRNRBITW.....like i've said before, if you don't agree with that, then you really just don't "get it" and you never will...

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> Tight as hell? No. But, that's never been a
> particular strong-suit of this band, even on a
> good night. But, '81 was surely the last great,
> real rock'n'roll tour by the GRNRBITW.....like
> i've said before, if you don't agree with that,
> then you really just don't "get it" and you never
> will...

Amen!!