in a 6 month period, during Devil and dust tour. That's an awful lot.
Any statistics on the stones so far.

I think it was 44

(I actually thought Bruce's figure was around 140..I made it 111 after the end of the first American leg and Europe - about 37 shows at that point. I didnt bother counting when he came back to the US again, it was just getting too ridiculous!)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-14 14:45 by Gazza.

Gazza Wrote:
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> I think it was 44
>
> (I actually thought Bruce's figure was around
> 140..I made it 111 after the end of the first
> American leg and Europe - about 37 shows at that
> point. I didnt bother counting when he came back
> to the US again, it was just getting too
> ridiculous!)
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at 12/14/05 14:45 by
> Gazza.

Gazza - I don't have official stats, but for what it's worth I attended the final show in Trenton, NJ where he played 4 tour premieres. (Santa, Mansion on the Hill, Zero and Blind Terry, and Fire). Could you imagine if the Stones played 4 tour premieres in one night??

Gazza is correct. The Boss played 140 different tracks.


Bruce Springsteen COMPLETE 2005 Tour Song List (in alphabetical order)

1. A Good Man Is Hard To Find
2. Across the Border
3. Adam Raised a Cain
4. Aint Got You
5. All I'm Thinkin' About
6. All That Heaven Will Allow
7. All the Way Home
8. Atlantic City
9. Back In Your Arms
10. Backstreets
11. Be True
12. Because the Night
13. Better Days
14. Black Cowboys
15. Blinded by the Light
16. Bobby Jean
17. Book Of Dreams
18. Born in the USA
19. Born to Run
20. Brillant Disguise
21. Cadillac Ranch
22. Cautious Man
23. Countin' on a Miracle
24. County Fair
25. Cynthia
26. Darkness on the Edge of Town
27. Darlington County
28. Devils and Dust
29. Dirty Water (COVER)
30. Does this Bus Stop at 82nd Street?
31. Downbound Train
32. Dream Baby Dream
33. Drive All Night
34. Dry Lightning
35. Empty Sky
36. Fade Away
37. Fire
38. For You
39. Frankie
40. Further On Up The Road
41. Galveston Bay
42. Growing Up
43. Highway 29
44. Highway Patrolman
45. Homestead
46. Hungry Heart
47. I Wanna Marry You
48. I Wish I Were Blind
49. Iceman
50. Idiot's Delight
51. If I Should Fall Behind
52. I'm On Fire
53. Incident On 57th Street
54. Independence Day
55. Into the Fire
56. It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City
57. Janey Don't You Lose Heart
58. Jesus Was An Only Son
59. Johnny 99
60. Land of Hope And Dreams
61. Leah
62. Leap of Faith
63. Lift Me Up
64. Living Proof
65. Lonesome Day
66. Long Time Coming
67. Lost In The Flood
68. Lucky Town
69. Mansion on the Hill
70. Maria's Bed
71. Mary's Place
72. Matamoras Banks
73. Meeting Across the River
74. My Beautiful Reward
75. My Best Was Never Good Enough
76. My Father's House
77. My Hometown
78. Nebraska
79. Nothing Man
80. Oklahoma Hills (COVER)
81. One Step Up
82. Open All Night
83. Paradise
84. Part Man PArt Monkey
85. Point Blank
86. Prove it All Night
87. Racing in the Street
88. Ramrod
89. Real World
90. Reason to Believe
91. Reno
92. Roll of the Dice
93. Rumble (COVER)
94. Sad Eyes
95. Sandy
96. Santa Ana
97. Santa Claus is Coming to Town (COVER)
98. Sherry Darling
99. Shut out the Light
100. Silver Palomino
101. Sinaloa Cowboys
102. Something in the Night
103. Song For Orphans
104. Soul Driver
105. Spare Parts
106. Spirit in the Night
107. State Trooper
108. Stolen Car
109. Straight Time
110. The Fever
111. The Ghost Of Tom Joad
112. The Hitter
113. The Line
114. The New Timer
115. The Promise
116. The Promised Land
117. The Rising
118. The River
119. The Ties that Bind
120. The Wall
121. The Wish
122. This Hard Land
123. Thunder Road
124. Thundercrack
125. Tougher Than The Rest
126. Tunnel of Love
127. Two Faces
128. Two For the Road
129. Two Hearts
130. Used Cars
131. Valentine's Day
132. Waitin' on a Sunny Day
133. Walk Like a Man
134. When You're Alone
135. Wild Billy's Circus Story
136. Wreck On The Highway
137. You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)
138. Youngstown
139. You're Missing
140. Zero and Blind Terry

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And even if Santa Claus or Garth Brooks did 300 songs I would not care. Not my cup of tea.

Bjornulf

he's a master

Whether he's anyone's cup of tea or not is irrelevant. Like the Stones, he's a major performer at an advanced stage in his career. However, he's taking risks, mixing up his show, and constantly trying new things. He's not catering to the beautiful people/greatest hits only crowd. He pulls from his entire catalog and his audience responds. The Stoned could learn a lesson here.

funny thing...if i saw Bruce, i would want to hear his greatest hits becasue i am not a huge fan and therefore would not know most of the other songs.

So there it is. That's why the Stones play what they do. Sometimes we need to remember that there are a few people out there who are not fanatics about the Stones like we are.

My brothers where very dissapointed because he played so many unknown tracks. It was their last Bruce concert. To bad. Not everybody is happy with a tracklist like this.

The major difference with this Springstreen tour is that it is solo.

Much easier to do whatever he chooses as there aren`t other musicians having to learn these tunes or arrangements.

the only kind thing that strikes me as odd is the relative lack of covers Bruce does - I would think an artist of his caliber he do more acknowleding of those he's indebted to musically.

GuessWho Wrote:
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> The major difference with this Springstreen tour
> is that it is solo.
>
> Much easier to do whatever he chooses as there
> aren`t other musicians having to learn these tunes
> or arrangements.


yeah..on the last tour with a band he played 150 songs!!! he's slipping!

T&A Wrote:
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> the only kind thing that strikes me as odd is the
> relative lack of covers Bruce does - I would think
> an artist of his caliber he do more acknowleding
> of those he's indebted to musically.


he used to sprinkle the shows with a liberal selction down the years. Not so many since 1999

how long is the average springsteen show these days? Didn't he perform 4 hr shows back around '84-'85?

fleabitpeanutmonkey Wrote:
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> Whether he's anyone's cup of tea or not is
> irrelevant. Like the Stones, he's a major
> performer at an advanced stage in his career.
> However, he's taking risks, mixing up his show,
> and constantly trying new things. He's not
> catering to the beautiful people/greatest hits
> only crowd. He pulls from his entire catalog and
> his audience responds. The Stoned could learn a
> lesson here.


And his last big E-Street album, The Rising had at least 6 CLASSIC SONGS on it... "Waitin on a Sunny Day", "Worlds Apart", "You're Missing", "The Rising", "Into the Fire" and the haunting "Paradise"... not to mention other solid tunes like "My City of Ruins", "Further On" and "Lonesome Day"

As a matter of fact, as I look back over the tracklist, it's obvious this album suffers from "Exile on Main Street Disease" or "Californication Disease"... if they'd just trimmed like 4 songs off of it we would be calling it the "Album of the Decade" or something... but it's just amazing for a major musician to still be writing stuff of this quality... who else is ???

It was an "uneven" album, as most of Bruce's albums are, but the gems are truly 24 karat gems. Unlike other bands I can think of that put out albums and maybe have a couple "interesting" songs that fade over time.

If you want an "inventive" musician and songwriter on the caliber of Fogerty or Dylan who can rock any stadium in the world to the rafters, and who plays for 2.5 to 3 hours without a meaningless warm-up band, it's Springsteen.

I've only seen one E-Street stadium show but easily one of the best I ever attended. Fabulous band, even if you don't know any of the songs, don't worry, you'll love it.


"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-15 00:48 by BornOnTheBayou.

One guy with an acoustic guitar and piano does not have to follow a setlist with a corresponding lighting pattern. He can just take the stage and start playing what he wants. The nature of this tour is that its deliberately geared and marketed to a core audience (a type of audience the Stones have never recognized) hence the average attendance of 3-6,000 a night. Not only do the Stones deliberately neglect acknowledging us, they don't need us and probably don't even want us at their concerts.

Dan Wrote:
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> One guy with an acoustic guitar and piano does not
> have to follow a setlist with a corresponding
> lighting pattern. He can just take the stage and
> start playing what he wants. The nature of this
> tour is that its deliberately geared and marketed
> to a core audience (a type of audience the Stones
> have never recognized) hence the average
> attendance of 3-6,000 a night. Not only do the
> Stones deliberately neglect acknowledging us, they
> don't need us and probably don't even want us at
> their concerts.


Keep in mind Bruce's solo tour is pretty cheap to put on... he can make GOOD MONEY from 5,000 people... at least a couple hundred thousand a night prolly...

Like the Cream reunion. They didn't have shit for a stage there... just walked out and played... they made a bundle on those gigs because they didn't cost much. I don't think the Cream tour even had a "screen"... Royal Albert Hall didn't seem to.

To put on a Stones tour with everyone's entourage, etc., they have to play big venues to re-coup the cost.


"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-14 21:43 by BornOnTheBayou.

fleabitpeanutmonkey Wrote:
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> Whether he's anyone's cup of tea or not is
> irrelevant. Like the Stones, he's a major
> performer at an advanced stage in his career.
> However, he's taking risks, mixing up his show,
> and constantly trying new things. He's not
> catering to the beautiful people/greatest hits
> only crowd. He pulls from his entire catalog and
> his audience responds. The Stoned could learn a
> lesson here.


could'nt agree more. He is a genius.

T&A Wrote:
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> the only kind thing that strikes me as odd is the
> relative lack of covers Bruce does - I would think
> an artist of his caliber he do more acknowleding
> of those he's indebted to musically.


I have a boot somewhere of just covers. (I Fought the Law, Rave On, Mountain of Love). Pretty good listening. As Gazza mentioned, not so much since the reunion tour of 99. Also, for what it's worth, during the Born in the USA tour of 84-85, Street Fighting Man was a staple. He changed the lyrics slightly to "...sleepy US town."

Bruce did many times Roll Over Beethoven during the last E-Street Band tour, at least in Europe. He also did Who'll stop the rain in Milano, it started to rain so he just turned to the band and started the song :-). He still does pretty long concerts, the last European shows with E-Street Band were about 3hrs 20 mins. He's awesame live!

redrum Wrote:
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> how long is the average springsteen show these
> days? Didn't he perform 4 hr shows back around
> '84-'85?
>
>


The longest show Bruce has ever played was 3 hrs 55 mins (Nassau Coliseum, New years Eve 1980 on "The River" tour) (there was an interval back then). On the '84 - 85 tour the shows were from about 170- 220 minutes

Shows with a band usually vary from about 160 - 200 minutes, once in a while creeping up to the 3 and a half hour mark if its a tour closing show or something. Oddly enough as hes got older he's dispensed with the intermission (not used since 1993)

But you know,The Stones at least care for their fans in Eastern Europe.When was the last time Springsteen played any city in Eastern Europe?1993?

The Stones are going to play several Eastern Europe shows next year,including Serbia and Russia where the concert tickets are much cheaper than those in Western countries.So they even lose some money this way.

Seeing The Stones and Springsteen shows are two of my great whishes.
I am finally going to see The Stones next year because they are willing to visit places they have never played been to.

So Bruce,I agree that you are a genius and all but please,come to Serbia,Croatia,Hungary,Russia........

Bruce Springsteen is by far the best live-act for so many years. Acoustic and with the E-Street. The passion and energy from the Boss can't be beat. I've seen Springsteen this year in Ahoy Rotterdam. On his own. Just his music. Fascinating. Over the years I've seen so many concerts of my favourite group. Ten times at the Licks-tour (stadiums, arenas ans theatres). Great memories. But, sorry for that, no one can even come close to Bruce Springsteen live. IMO.

Hasn't Springsteen always changed up his set lists? Since the beginning? I thought he was the guy that actually started all this stuff - different night/ different set.

How can a guy even REMEMBER the lyrics to all these songs ??

Must take alot of Gingko Bilboa

"It's just that demon life has got me in it's sway..."

harlito1969 Wrote:
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> Hasn't Springsteen always changed up his set
> lists? Since the beginning? I thought he was the
> guy that actually started all this stuff -
> different night/ different set.
>
>

yes he's always changed the show around

wouldnt go as far to say he started all that stuff, though. I would imagine that the Grateful Dead would have done that before him

BornOnTheBayou Wrote:
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> How can a guy even REMEMBER the lyrics to all
> these songs ??
>
> Must take alot of Gingko Bilboa
>
> "It's just that demon life has got me in it's
> sway..."

Teleprompter. When he calls an audible, he not only tells the band (obviously), but a tech who puts up the lyrics of the song not on the setlist. He first started using this (I think) on the 99-00 reunion tour. At first I thought his eyes were closed in passioned concentration, until I realized he was looking down at the screen built into the stage.

Yeah,Michael Stipe had a similar equipment on the stage.He was reading from a small screen

...and every single one of 'em a classic!

jagger uses one as well at times, doesnt he?