i was reading chuck leavel's diary and boy its a tough read (chuckleavel.com or something) ....not only do we have to read about his workouts and what muscles he worked, what he ate for breakfast lunch and dinner...but we have to read about how he usually writes the setlist then Mick approves it...this read is not for everyone..you'll hate chuck more and wonder why KEITH isnt involved in such an important thing like a SETLIST>>> Bring back Ian Mac...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-10 19:42 by BostonStrangler.

Well, it is a very interesting insight - Chuck wanted Mick to play Sway again in Vegas but "Mick was not into it" etc. Good read!


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

But, Lorenz, on the other hand... I´m with Jagger there...
Vegas ought to be more like "rattle w/ your jewels... "
... Sway wont be the right choice there, would it?

I don't think it's a Vegas thing. Just read According To The Rolling Stones, Keith's section then you will know why Mick is only into war horses and not the real gems!

Seriously it may be better if (even if I was on his side on the particular case above) Mick had less to say on the setlist & Chuckie more.

But we should really make a 'petition' for Keith to get more involved in this procedure, as the man has the best musical taste of all those geezers...

Doesn't Chuck have an e-mail address at that site? We should be bombarding him with setlist suggestions/requests!

He has an email - and you always get a reply (Rose Leavell handels the emails, it seems)


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

Now we know the real reason for the short setlist:

"wrote up a fairly standard set list with one less song...knowing that it wouldn't hurt to make it just a little shorter so we could deal with our late flight out"

If Keith is the one with the best musical taste then how come we only had The Worst and the dull Infamy from him for the first 30 shows (& then only Slipping Away yet again & Infamy for the rest)?

i agree keiths selections are week at best lately...

Tseverin & BostonS; see above.
And for the umpteenth time, Infamy aint bad live!!!

They are obliged to play the War Horses because the ticket prices scream that they do.
I do not believe that Chuck writes up the set list. MJ and KR have the input on this.
Bury "Infamy" once and for all. Leave the crooning to Tony Bennett and Rod Stewart. KR, you are a rocker. Please listen to your masterpieces, "Coming Down Again" and "Little T&A", to refresh your memory.

Beast Wrote:
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> Doesn't Chuck have an e-mail address at that site?
> We should be bombarding him with setlist
> suggestions/requests!


Hasn´t he gor a home addres`?
I´d like to bombard him with a
few other things;-)

Wishful thinking Midnight Toker. If that were so Chuck would be lying there. I don't think he's one to lie about that.



Koen Wrote:
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> Now we know the real reason for the short
> setlist:
>
> "wrote up a fairly standard set list with one less
> song...knowing that it wouldn't hurt to make it
> just a little shorter so we could deal with our
> late flight out"
>
>

This is indeed not something you want happening to you if you got a ticket. Shortening the setlist for logistic reasons is not something to be proud of if you sell an expensive product. Even laymen seem to complain about the rather short set so this move is not wise and utterly band-o-centric.

Why are people still shouting for another encore? Useless, the boys need to catch their plane!

The extra song didn't seem to come back again, by the way.

So it could be true that they're actually booking the Amsterdam Arena before the Rotterdam Kuip because the Amsterdam Amstelhotel is closer and they WILL stay there? I always thought of this as a bit of a joke, but they might be dead serious in ignoring the fans for that reason...

"They are obliged to play the War Horses because the ticket prices scream that they do."
They set the ticket prices that high. No one obliged them to do so. Also to be honest, since they have been bought & dissatisfied Warhorse fans can't get their money back they are still reasonably free to shake it up a bit.

"KR, you are a rocker. Please listen to your masterpieces, "Coming Down Again"... What? 'Coming Down Again' is a ballad, not a rocker; though I totally agree that he ought to play this rather than 'Infamy'.

Limbostone Wrote:
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> So it could be true that they're actually booking
> the Amsterdam Arena before the Rotterdam Kuip
> because the Amsterdam Amstelhotel is closer and
> they WILL stay there? I always thought of this as
> a bit of a joke, but they might be dead serious in
> ignoring the fans for that reason...

Mojo owns 40% of the Amsterdam ArenA. Simple as that.

@#$%&' hell! Keith, Mick and Charlie should be deciding the set list! Not some hired keyboardist!