It is me, or has Ronnie and or the band, moved away from those single note solos he used to rip on like he did on You Cant Always Get what you want on the ‘81 tour for example. Seems he used to play more extended solos. Is some cases they reminded me of aJerry Garcia solo. In technical terms …18th notes?

Yes. Wood plays different than he did 42 years ago.

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It is me, or has Ronnie and or the band, moved away from those single note solos he used to rip on like he did on You Cant Always Get what you want on the ‘81 tour for example. Seems he used to play more extended solos. Is some cases they reminded me of aJerry Garcia solo. In technical terms …18th notes?

He's 77 years old.

I just dont get the sense that he can’t play that way any more, rather it is a choice not to play that way. I always thought the stones style of playing suited them for playing into their old age. Like their blues mentors. As opposed to say Eddie Van Halen. I wondered what his playing would sound like as he aged.

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Yes. Wood plays different than he did 42 years ago.

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Seriously? You don't think Ron Wood could pLay one of his solos like he did in ‘81/YCAGWYW? You think he is too old for that. Not from what i have seen. I think it has more to do with the Rolling Stones Orchestra that is now on stage. Nobody takes a blistering solo. They still sound territic live …..but guitar solos are short and well not as sweet as they used to be. I even had a separate post asking why Wood doesnt play that silver and red tony zematis guitar any more. That one sounded amazing and seemed to have an extrA long neck.

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Yes. Wood plays different than he did 42 years ago.

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I just dont get the sense that he can’t play that way any more, rather it is a choice not to play that way. I always thought the stones style of playing suited them for playing into their old age. Like their blues mentors. As opposed to say Eddie Van Halen. I wondered what his playing would sound like as he aged.

Ronnie is still capable of playing solos like he did for Start Me Up in 1989-90. You can hear it in his little lead lines in various songs like SFTD.

He just doesn't. For whatever reason he just buzzsaws his way through.

However, in 1994-95 you'd never known he played like he did in 1989-90, Start Me Up or anything else except Tumbling Dice.

Which I've always found extremely weird. In 1994 he played the bridge in Shattered excellently (and Charlie played through, which is awesome) - since then, it's been more like 1981-82 - not tuneful, just bashing. 1994-95 Ronnie played those chiming lead ups while Keith belted out the riffs while Charlie rolled, keeping it flowing - and since then, it's been cinder blocks.

1:29 Mick leads into Ronnie.

To be fair, I think Ronnie plays Shattered differently now because Keith doesn‘t/can‘t do the fast chugging anymore (he does the riff stroking up and down) and has missed the bridge sometimes on recenet tours (not this one though). So Ronnie plays the riff with Keith instead of that great counterline and in the bridge he just playes the first solo notes and then moves on to the chords instead of the ascending lines…

I don't know if it is a matter of ability but as far as Keith and Ronnie's solos are concerned, they never play the same way...always try to bring something different and that's what we like from this Band.

Well i am all for trying new things……but why abandon something that works so well?! This is exactly what i am talki g anout. Listens to the 4:51 mark. I find it hard to believe Ronnie …cant do this. I love his playing here and would just like to hear a little of this style from time to time.



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We all don't run and jump like we're 10 years old anymore, do we? When you're 77, things just don't go so smoothly anymore. That's your answer, I guess.

I admire Ronnie who from 1975 played lots of solos on Tumbling Dice and You Can't Always Get What You Want.
I play a bit of guitar and it's quite difficult to play a long and good solo on a two chord song.
Ronnie managed to play some very good ones on You Can't .....it's quite a performance !!
On Tumbling Dice, he found a new insipration from the 2000 years.
It takes a great deal of talent to be able to do that !

I also add that most of the time I like his playing on slide. How many times did he slide on Happy ?
Congratulations Ronnie !

Love his slide playing! In particular Let It Bleed and All down the Line from Hampton ‘81

Ronnie is playing the best guitar of life. His solos have depth, character, profound musicality and, best of all, a beginning middle and end. Too often in the party years he's start a solo and then slash until it petered out.

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I just dont get the sense that he can’t play that way any more, rather it is a choice not to play that way. I always thought the stones style of playing suited them for playing into their old age. Like their blues mentors. As opposed to say Eddie Van Halen. I wondered what his playing would sound like as he aged.

Ronnie is still capable of playing solos like he did for Start Me Up in 1989-90. You can hear it in his little lead lines in various songs like SFTD.

He just doesn't. For whatever reason he just buzzsaws his way through.

yeah, he plays a little like a butcher cuttin' up meat

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I just dont get the sense that he can’t play that way any more, rather it is a choice not to play that way. I always thought the stones style of playing suited them for playing into their old age. Like their blues mentors. As opposed to say Eddie Van Halen. I wondered what his playing would sound like as he aged.

Ronnie is still capable of playing solos like he did for Start Me Up in 1989-90. You can hear it in his little lead lines in various songs like SFTD.

He just doesn't. For whatever reason he just buzzsaws his way through.

However, in 1994-95 you'd never known he played like he did in 1989-90, Start Me Up or anything else except Tumbling Dice.

Which I've always found extremely weird. In 1994 he played the bridge in Shattered excellently (and Charlie played through, which is awesome) - since then, it's been more like 1981-82 - not tuneful, just bashing. 1994-95 Ronnie played those chiming lead ups while Keith belted out the riffs while Charlie rolled, keeping it flowing - and since then, it's been cinder blocks.

1:29 Mick leads into Ronnie.

Wow 2024 shattered is kicking 30 years earlier shattered but

i'm not sure i buy that ronnie can still at 77 years old play like he did 40 years ago but he can still play pretty well when he wants to

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Well i am all for trying new things……but why abandon something that works so well?! This is exactly what i am talki g anout. Listens to the 4:51 mark. I find it hard to believe Ronnie …cant do this. I love his playing here and would just like to hear a little of this style from time to time.



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Because after playing it for the three hundredth time, it gets boring, so they try to be more creative, sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse. But I think this is the nature of the Stones live, right from the start it's difficult for their songs to be the same as the studio versions, it rarely happens.

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I just dont get the sense that he can’t play that way any more, rather it is a choice not to play that way. I always thought the stones style of playing suited them for playing into their old age. Like their blues mentors. As opposed to say Eddie Van Halen. I wondered what his playing would sound like as he aged.

Ronnie is still capable of playing solos like he did for Start Me Up in 1989-90. You can hear it in his little lead lines in various songs like SFTD.

He just doesn't. For whatever reason he just buzzsaws his way through.

However, in 1994-95 you'd never known he played like he did in 1989-90, Start Me Up or anything else except Tumbling Dice.

Which I've always found extremely weird. In 1994 he played the bridge in Shattered excellently (and Charlie played through, which is awesome) - since then, it's been more like 1981-82 - not tuneful, just bashing. 1994-95 Ronnie played those chiming lead ups while Keith belted out the riffs while Charlie rolled, keeping it flowing - and since then, it's been cinder blocks.

1:29 Mick leads into Ronnie.

Wow 2024 shattered is kicking 30 years earlier shattered but

2024 is pretty damn good. Although it's missing some of the nuance they had in 1994, at least the speed is appropriate and very close to 1994. It is pretty damn good.

The Giants Stadium 8-14-1994 performance is the best one from 1994. The 8-15-1994 is almost as good (00:13:20).

Thought the Shattered at Met Life #1 this year was pretty good.

With Ronnie, I have the feeling that he could play just about anything if he wanted to. His solo performances outside the Stones in particular show that. It's a matter of taste how you rate his solos on the current tour. I'm rather less enthusiastic about them, to put it kindly. Why this butchering at SMU, TD and YCAGWYW for example? I'd rather listen to his solos in LA 75! Or the SMU solo at the Atlantic City 89 show! And his bass lines in "Break the Spell" on "Steel Wheels" are unique. Just as an example. There is enough material to rate Ronnie as an extraordinary musician.

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There is enough material to rate Ronnie as an extraordinary musician.

And enough also to Rate him as a messy and limited musician, rushed on his solos in particular.

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I think he enjoys improvising, because he's tired of always doing the same solos, this also leads him to be more experimental, sometimes he does fantastic things, sometimes not, but that's also the beauty of it.
Ok, he could study it by heart and redo it note for note, the errors would be much fewer, but he wouldn't be him anymore.
Keith also improvises...

Sorry, but there's no contradiction between improvising and producing a good solo! Hundreds of guitarists in well-known bands do it... Improvising to avoid boredom and repetition, of course it's possible.

And Ronnie redoing it note for note, I think you're joking. Why don't you think he ever did it on Sway or CYHMK? Come on...

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The problem with the Stones is that they don't rehearse much, when they played at the Fonda theater you could see that the band had rehearsed a lot, but they almost never do.
Rehearsals are essential for any band, even if you have to rehearse songs you've been playing for years.
Anyone who plays in a band gets together at least twice a week to rehearse.
In the 70s and 80s they certainly tried a lot more.

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The problem with the Stones is that they don't rehearse much, when they played at the Fonda theater you could see that the band had rehearsed a lot, but they almost never do.

I don't think that the Stones rehearse. They dig up musical memories.

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Love his slide playing! In particular Let It Bleed and All down the Line from Hampton ‘81

Ronnie Wood slide guitar solo 'Let It Bleed' - 1981 Tour

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