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crholmstrom
I did my bathroom break during Bonamassa. Planning is everything!

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keefriffhards
All this childlike school teacher vibe of well the boys and girls went home with happy smiling faces, casual fans went home happy like that's all that matters. I see happy smiling faces every week where cover band's play everything from ELO, Eagles, Stones, Simon and Garfuncle etc, but that's the whole point, they are cover bands charging £30, you expect just the hits, but the Stones themselves should deliver more new material ( if it was any good ) but certainly this late in the game delve deeper into their back catalogue.
Ask themselves are we playing at 80 years of age to satisfy casual fans to make big bucks, or shall we use this oppertunity to air some equally brilliant tracks that were not necessary hits in the charts.

Let It Loose
Coming Down Again
TOPS
Crazy Mama
Hand Of Fate
100 Years Ago
Time Waits For No One
Play With Fire
Winter


Endless opportunities to play these songs and maybe 50 others just as good have been squandered, even if it was a few theatre shows that were recorded and filmed for the fans to watch at home on what ever format. . It's never gonna happen now.

You've got a point but that ship has sailed. Maybe that could have happened if they had kept Taylor on board in 2015...but they must have figured, "why bother" ? Let's play it "safe"/"easy", but you know what, doing what they do at this point in the game and at their age is ANYTHING but easy, they're ultimate pros, especially Mick so they make it look easy but it isn't and very soon now it will be over. At best by 2030, probably earlier, for better or worse.

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keefriffhards
All this childlike school teacher vibe of well the boys and girls went home with happy smiling faces, casual fans went home happy like that's all that matters. I see happy smiling faces every week where cover band's play everything from ELO, Eagles, Stones, Simon and Garfuncle etc, but that's the whole point, they are cover bands charging £30, you expect just the hits, but the Stones themselves should deliver more new material ( if it was any good ) but certainly this late in the game delve deeper into their back catalogue.
Ask themselves are we playing at 80 years of age to satisfy casual fans to make big bucks, or shall we use this oppertunity to air some equally brilliant tracks that were not necessary hits in the charts.

Let It Loose
Coming Down Again
TOPS
Crazy Mama
Hand Of Fate
100 Years Ago
Time Waits For No One
Play With Fire
Winter


Endless opportunities to play these songs and maybe 50 others just as good have been squandered, even if it was a few theatre shows that were recorded and filmed for the fans to watch at home on what ever format. . It's never gonna happen now.

You've got a point but that ship has sailed. Maybe that could have happened if they had kept Taylor on board in 2015...but they must have figured, "why bother" ? Let's play it "safe"/"easy", but you know what, doing what they do at this point in the game and at their age is ANYTHING but easy, they're ultimate pros, especially Mick so they make it look easy but it isn't and very soon now it will be over. At best by 2030, probably earlier, for better or worse.

2030 is unlikely, i hope Mick finishes the next 15 shows, man did he look like he needs an 8 day break in Seatle.
He does plan this well though, hopefully he'll be back firing on all 3 cylinder next week.
Ronnie makes it look easy, Mick and Keith not so much.
Why does Mick feel the need to walk in all directions like a crazy gerbil hehe
It does nothing for the sound of the Stones, they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

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the problem is they are "victims" of their great catalogue. fit in everything in a 2 hours set is not possible. but i guess the vast majority of the live crowd is happy. mission fullfilled, well done boys

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I agree with this statement from earlier:

they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

Sometimes it seems like they are all out there just trying to keep up with each other with Mick directing them.

However, I am still grateful that they are touring and will continue to go to as many shows as possible.

Thank goodness my boss is a fan.

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I agree with this statement from earlier:

they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

Sometimes it seems like they are all out there just trying to keep up with each other with Mick directing them.

However, I am still grateful that they are touring and will continue to go to as many shows as possible.

Thank goodness my boss is a fan.

I think they lock in on some songs. JJF for instance sounds tight and coherent. Other songs like IORR doesn't really work. It's like Steve is trying to replicate the feel and fills from the studio version, while the rest are still playing the version they did with Charlie which is more like a Chuck Berry song. When the band is playing two different versions at the same time it doesn't sound very "tight", same thing happens with some other songs.

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crholmstrom
I did my bathroom break during Bonamassa. Planning is everything!

You missed an amazing set. I wish he’d gone on earlier to have had more time! (And he had a Dumble up there! Sounded so good.)

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georgemcdonnell314
I agree with this statement from earlier:

they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

Sometimes it seems like they are all out there just trying to keep up with each other with Mick directing them.

However, I am still grateful that they are touring and will continue to go to as many shows as possible.

Thank goodness my boss is a fan.

I think they lock in on some songs. JJF for instance sounds tight and coherent. Other songs like IORR doesn't really work. It's like Steve is trying to replicate the feel and fills from the studio version, while the rest are still playing the version they did with Charlie which is more like a Chuck Berry song. When the band is playing two different versions at the same time it doesn't sound very "tight", same thing happens with some other songs.

That is very astute, there are times when it sounds like two variations and tempos are being played at the same time, might be why Mick sounds like he's singing in the wrong pitch on some songs.

Could it be said that perhaps Mick concentrates on the audience at the expense of the band.
This is the problem with covering cat walks and trying to be all over the stage, it doesn't help the band in any way. The audience will look after themselves if the music is packing enough punch.

It's like a F1 racing driver, he can be that fastest driver on the track but if he doesn't communicate with his team and give correct feedback the cars team can no longer deliver a championship winning car.

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retired_dog,
you have a good point there, because later on in these tours when Keith gets more rehearsed things do tend to gel well, when Keith decides he can lead the band it lifts all the musicians and of course Mick as well.

My only problem with your theory is why is Mick pointing, prompting and conducting the band if it's not his job to do so.

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retired_dog,
you have a good point there, because later on in these tours when Keith gets more rehearsed things do tend to gel well, when Keith decides he can lead the band it lifts all the musicians and of course Mick as well.

My only problem with your theory is why is Mick pointing, prompting and conducting the band if it's not his job to do so.

Because these are two different things: "Pointing, prompting and conducting" is done to avoid missing breaks, bridges and other changes in a song. But we are talking about "two variations and tempos are being played at the same time" here, and that's a thing no "pointing, prompting and conducting" could correct in a live situation, regardless by whom. That can only be "corrected" in tour or later soundcheck rehearsals. Then again, Mick can only address the problem and propose how it should be solved, but it's the band's task to actually sort it out and better the performance of a song.

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I agree with this statement from earlier:

they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

Sometimes it seems like they are all out there just trying to keep up with each other with Mick directing them.

However, I am still grateful that they are touring and will continue to go to as many shows as possible.

Thank goodness my boss is a fan.

I think they lock in on some songs. JJF for instance sounds tight and coherent. Other songs like IORR doesn't really work. It's like Steve is trying to replicate the feel and fills from the studio version, while the rest are still playing the version they did with Charlie which is more like a Chuck Berry song. When the band is playing two different versions at the same time it doesn't sound very "tight", same thing happens with some other songs.

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Keefriffhards, on this:

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Admittedly i wasn't there but watched all available footage and that Seattle review isn't entirely accurate.
Mick looked, sounded and moved like a fit man of say 65 to 70, definitely not like an 80 year old but absolutely not like he was performing even 5 years ago.
He's still getting by but age has unfortunately caught up with him, it's caught up with all of them.
It's still incredible though on songs like GS, Chanel Haynes has the energy that's missing and steals Micks thunder. Shelter kind of saves the day, man they need Rambler back though and drop a couple of HD tracks that clearly don't work vocally.

Are you kidding? Following treaclefingers, I suggest that he is not acting, singing or moving that old. I mean, I don't know who you hang around, but I'm thinking a fit guy (in perfect shape, with voice and dance training) 50-55 might be more accurate, maybe 55-60 at worst. I was at the Las Vegas show, btw.

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Five HD songs and Down The Road Apiece = yes please.

Lucky dip - Lower bowl, back corner of stadium, row U. Not the best.

syrel

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Keefriffhards, on this:

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Admittedly i wasn't there but watched all available footage and that Seattle review isn't entirely accurate.
Mick looked, sounded and moved like a fit man of say 65 to 70, definitely not like an 80 year old but absolutely not like he was performing even 5 years ago.
He's still getting by but age has unfortunately caught up with him, it's caught up with all of them.
It's still incredible though on songs like GS, Chanel Haynes has the energy that's missing and steals Micks thunder. Shelter kind of saves the day, man they need Rambler back though and drop a couple of HD tracks that clearly don't work vocally.

Are you kidding? Following treaclefingers, I suggest that he is not acting, singing or moving that old. I mean, I don't know who you hang around, but I'm thinking a fit guy (in perfect shape, with voice and dance training) 50-55 might be more accurate, maybe 55-60 at worst. I was at the Las Vegas show, btw.

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Doxa
Where I come from people run marathons, not walk them. But what the hell I know...

But yeah, the dick contest here is getting into a new level...

Who else wins Jagger in physical level?

- Doxa

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Doxa
Where I come from people run marathons, not walk them. But what the hell I know...

But yeah, the dick contest here is getting into a new level...

Who else wins Jagger in physical level?

- Doxa

Yeah but can you continuously walk marathons? I mean continuously...not sporadically.

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Where I come from people run marathons, not walk them. But what the hell I know...

But yeah, the dick contest here is getting into a new level...

Who else wins Jagger in physical level?

- Doxa

Yeah but can you continuously walk marathons? I mean continuously...not sporadically.

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I agree with this statement from earlier:

they need to lock in tight together IMHO, the sound is all over the place, it feels like it's coming off the rails at every turn.
Mick's becoming to hard to follow for Keith especially, backing singers following Mick are all over the place the audience can feel it, it's like the glue has gone since Charlie passed

Sometimes it seems like they are all out there just trying to keep up with each other with Mick directing them.

However, I am still grateful that they are touring and will continue to go to as many shows as possible.

Thank goodness my boss is a fan.

I think they lock in on some songs. JJF for instance sounds tight and coherent. Other songs like IORR doesn't really work. It's like Steve is trying to replicate the feel and fills from the studio version, while the rest are still playing the version they did with Charlie which is more like a Chuck Berry song. When the band is playing two different versions at the same time it doesn't sound very "tight", same thing happens with some other songs.

IORR was for me the low point musically and I'm glad it came early. I've never really enjoyed the Chuck Berry version they do live and point to Mick and the Foo Fighters SNL performance of it from a few years back to how good it can be.

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A few shows ago he said Keith's playing is transcendental, today not so much.

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A few shows ago he said Keith's playing is transcendental, today not so much.

If you mean me, I am not one of those who's take on things would change radically every second day. Nor I need to repeat the same things over and over.

Keith's playing still is transcendental at its best moments, especially in "Gimme Shelter". Nothing to do with technical excellence or the lack of it. The sounds he makes out of his guitar is simply out of this world.

- Doxa