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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
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mailexile67
What is the situation of the second week in the charts?
In Germany you can follow the chart progression via this permanent link - [OffizielleCharts.de] .
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
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bitusa2012
I read on here many, many, MANY pages back, where someone posted that it may be a (good) sign that Hackney Diamonds IS a great album because near on everyone here has differing favourite tracks from it.
Myself, I think Sweet Sounds of Heaven to be their greatest individual track in 50 or so years. So much so, that on a list here on IORR, of your favourite 20 individual Stones tracks, to be posted in order, a near on impossible task, I placed it at number 5. It probably is therefore the best song on Hackney Diamonds.
Why do I say “probably”?
Because as I play the album several/many times daily, over the past 2 weeks, I find myself “waiting” on different tracks, all the time!!
On release day, having heard both Angry, SSoH and both “leaked tracks”, all I wanted to hear, in quality, WAS SSoH.
On the first weekend I had it, Get Close just jumped out at me, and as I played the album, loving it, I could not wait to get back to Get Close.
Early last week I could not wait (though I DID) until the needle got to Whole Wide World.
By the middle of the week I found myself hanging out for Live by the Sword. Later in the week I wanted Angry!
Over the weekend I could not wait until Depending on You. Today I just dug the double of Driving me Too Hard and Tell me Straight.
It’s quite funny how my need to hear certain tracks is just changing all the time.
There really IS a quality to this album.
I recall I hammered A Bigger Bang for a couple of weeks too on release, but found I was always skipping tracks. Same with Bridges to Babylon. I very, VERY quickly learnt what I liked on that, and didn’t like.
But Hackney Diamonds IS different. Even the one track I don’t really like, I don’t skip; that’s Mess it Up. I still don’t “get” this track. Maybe one day I will, I play it enough, like EVERY time I play the album.
So it’s strange. Though I do think SSoH IS the best on the album, somehow it’s not my “favourite”, though I struggle to actually think what song IS. Perhaps it’s Depending on You?
THAT I’m GOING ON 70 years old, and a fan since I was 10 years old, to have received this record from The Rolling Stones so late in my life, and so late in their wonderful careers, is just a supreme, surprising gift.
I’m blown away.
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
I thought it was AW saying that it was Jagger who'd go back an re-do it, b/c Jagger would say it was over-sung; and the song did not sound 'lived in ' yet.
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strat72
What was I expecting for this new Stones album?
In all honesty I was hoping for another latter day Stones album at the most. I would have been more than happy with that. From Steel Wheels to A Bigger Bang they have all had some songs that I really liked, some I only liked, some I thought were pretty average, and a few I did not rate. However, after a really good listen to Hackney Diamonds I would say that this new album is better than that.
For me this album only consists of songs that I really like, and songs that I like. I really like the following......
Angry.
A fantastic opener to the album.
Get Close.
Maybe my favourite on the album. Great riff, great sax.
Depending On You.
A really nice Stones ballad
Dreamy Skies.
Short and Curlies country style
Mess it up.
The catchiest song on the album. Sounds like a Jagger track, but one of the good ones. Great to hear Charlie.
Tell me straight.
I Love the intro and the understated bare nature of this track. Keith adds another one to his list of fantastic vocals with such a soulful vibe.
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.
A soul number in the vain of "I got The Blues". I am not a huge GaGa fan, but she sure sings well on this. Stevie's fantastic playing supports the track instead of show boating. I love Jordan's drums on this and the off-the-cuff ending.
The tracks I merely like are....
Bite My Head Of.
Some Girls style punkish rocker with a catchy riff. Love the bass...
Whole Wide World.
Another catchy Jagger style track. I was not sure about it at first, but I like it now.
Live By The Sword.
Took time to grow on me, but got there in the end. Charlie and Bill together again. Lovely
Driving me To Hard.
If you're gonna rip someone off it may as well be yourself. Love The Winos style backing vocal.
Rolling Stones Blues.
An obvious choice, but I like the sparse way that they have done it.
Is there anything I do not like?
The production would not be my ideal way of doing it, but we all know Jagger wants a contemporary sound. It's The Rolling Stones, no doubt about that, but with a slightly modern sound. Andrew Watt has produced a cohesive sound and record, as opposed to when The Stones have previously tried modern production sounds.
The Album cover is dreadful in my opinion. I have had to flip it around so the lips logo is now the cover.
Maybe Jagger could dial his vocals down a little on some tracks. Not by much, just by a smidge.... Also, some of his lyrics have the same theme from track to track.
However, I think that it is a damn fine album, and considering where they are in their career it is astounding.
I still love this band.....
Most agree but it's not going to happen is it, he's got to be the towering ego over everything and everyone, it is what it is.
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powerage78
What about Billboard charts this week ?
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
I wonder what happened on Driving Me Too Hard, Mick sings it like he's suffering from a bad meal that's repeated on him. I really get the impression Mick is having a laugh with this track, almost taking the piss, it's hard to put into words other than he sounds insincere in his vocal and for me it's the best track on the album almost ruined by an over the top expression to the vocal. This track was begging for Keith imho.
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peoplewitheyes
By the way, does anyone know if the other songs recorded recently (the 'nearly finished' next album) were also produced by Watt?
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peoplewitheyes
By the way, does anyone know if the other songs recorded recently (the 'nearly finished' next album) were also produced by Watt?
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
I wonder what happened on Driving Me Too Hard, Mick sings it like he's suffering from a bad meal that's repeated on him. I really get the impression Mick is having a laugh with this track, almost taking the piss, it's hard to put into words other than he sounds insincere in his vocal and for me it's the best track on the album almost ruined by an over the top expression to the vocal. This track was begging for Keith imho.
I can't speak for anyone else, music is feeling, but I have exactly the same thing you mention. In my 60 years of being a Stones fan, I have never before experienced that I like an entire album so much. I don't skip a single song with spinning. I did with the albums before this one. There were always at least three songs I didn't like. And that childish whining about Mick's voice makes you sick. I'm not religious but it's a miracle of God that we can experience this in 2023. A band of 80-year-olds. This is and dream come true, it eases difficult periodesein your life. When I'm not listening in the house, I listen outside on my mp3 player. Dear people it is a 3 chord music, straightforward couldn't be simpler. Enjoy it.
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strat72
What was I expecting for this new Stones album?
In all honesty I was hoping for another latter day Stones album at the most. I would have been more than happy with that. From Steel Wheels to A Bigger Bang they have all had some songs that I really liked, some I only liked, some I thought were pretty average, and a few I did not rate. However, after a really good listen to Hackney Diamonds I would say that this new album is better than that.
For me this album only consists of songs that I really like, and songs that I like. I really like the following......
Angry.
A fantastic opener to the album.
Get Close.
Maybe my favourite on the album. Great riff, great sax.
Depending On You.
A really nice Stones ballad
Dreamy Skies.
Short and Curlies country style
Mess it up.
The catchiest song on the album. Sounds like a Jagger track, but one of the good ones. Great to hear Charlie.
Tell me straight.
I Love the intro and the understated bare nature of this track. Keith adds another one to his list of fantastic vocals with such a soulful vibe.
Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.
A soul number in the vain of "I got The Blues". I am not a huge GaGa fan, but she sure sings well on this. Stevie's fantastic playing supports the track instead of show boating. I love Jordan's drums on this and the off-the-cuff ending.
The tracks I merely like are....
Bite My Head Of.
Some Girls style punkish rocker with a catchy riff. Love the bass...
Whole Wide World.
Another catchy Jagger style track. I was not sure about it at first, but I like it now.
Live By The Sword.
Took time to grow on me, but got there in the end. Charlie and Bill together again. Lovely
Driving me To Hard.
If you're gonna rip someone off it may as well be yourself. Love The Winos style backing vocal.
Rolling Stones Blues.
An obvious choice, but I like the sparse way that they have done it.
Is there anything I do not like?
The production would not be my ideal way of doing it, but we all know Jagger wants a contemporary sound. It's The Rolling Stones, no doubt about that, but with a slightly modern sound. Andrew Watt has produced a cohesive sound and record, as opposed to when The Stones have previously tried modern production sounds.
The Album cover is dreadful in my opinion. I have had to flip it around so the lips logo is now the cover.
Maybe Jagger could dial his vocals down a little on some tracks. Not by much, just by a smidge.... Also, some of his lyrics have the same theme from track to track.
However, I think that it is a damn fine album, and considering where they are in their career it is astounding.
I still love this band.....
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bitusa2012
I read on here many, many, MANY pages back, where someone posted that it may be a (good) sign that Hackney Diamonds IS a great album because near on everyone here has differing favourite tracks from it.
Myself, I think Sweet Sounds of Heaven to be their greatest individual track in 50 or so years. So much so, that on a list here on IORR, of your favourite 20 individual Stones tracks, to be posted in order, a near on impossible task, I placed it at number 5. It probably is therefore the best song on Hackney Diamonds.
Why do I say “probably”?
Because as I play the album several/many times daily, over the past 2 weeks, I find myself “waiting” on different tracks, all the time!!
On release day, having heard both Angry, SSoH and both “leaked tracks”, all I wanted to hear, in quality, WAS SSoH.
On the first weekend I had it, Get Close just jumped out at me, and as I played the album, loving it, I could not wait to get back to Get Close.
Early last week I could not wait (though I DID) until the needle got to Whole Wide World.
By the middle of the week I found myself hanging out for Live by the Sword. Later in the week I wanted Angry!
Over the weekend I could not wait until Depending on You. Today I just dug the double of Driving me Too Hard and Tell me Straight.
It’s quite funny how my need to hear certain tracks is just changing all the time.
There really IS a quality to this album.
I recall I hammered A Bigger Bang for a couple of weeks too on release, but found I was always skipping tracks. Same with Bridges to Babylon. I very, VERY quickly learnt what I liked on that, and didn’t like.
But Hackney Diamonds IS different. Even the one track I don’t really like, I don’t skip; that’s Mess it Up. I still don’t “get” this track. Maybe one day I will, I play it enough, like EVERY time I play the album.
So it’s strange. Though I do think SSoH IS the best on the album, somehow it’s not my “favourite”, though I struggle to actually think what song IS. Perhaps it’s Depending on You?
THAT I’m GOING ON 70 years old, and a fan since I was 10 years old, to have received this record from The Rolling Stones so late in my life, and so late in their wonderful careers, is just a supreme, surprising gift.
I’m blown away.
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peoplewitheyes
I'm not sure why some keep suggesting that that this album is 'three chord music', as one of the great strengths of the writing on this collection is that it pushes and crafts the songs a lot more than lately - with interesting changes for bridges, and some rather unexpected chord progressions (by 'recent' Stones standards).
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powerage78
What about Billboard charts this week ?
#13 overall, #2 physical sales. By that, I think you could extrapolate they would probably have had a number 1 in the US if only they were able to ship all the pre-orders. I'm getting notifications just now that my orders are shipping. WEEK 3!
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
I wonder what happened on Driving Me Too Hard, Mick sings it like he's suffering from a bad meal that's repeated on him. I really get the impression Mick is having a laugh with this track, almost taking the piss, it's hard to put into words other than he sounds insincere in his vocal and for me it's the best track on the album almost ruined by an over the top expression to the vocal. This track was begging for Keith imho.
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peoplewitheyes
Mick mentioned in one of the recent interviews (or perhaps in was an Andrew Watt one referencing Jags) that he did, indeed, dial down some of his vocal takes - try to make them more lazy or throwaway. I can't remember the exact phrase, but it suggested he was trying to calm some of his over-enunciating / power-singing tendencies.
I wonder what happened on Driving Me Too Hard, Mick sings it like he's suffering from a bad meal that's repeated on him. I really get the impression Mick is having a laugh with this track, almost taking the piss, it's hard to put into words other than he sounds insincere in his vocal and for me it's the best track on the album almost ruined by an over the top expression to the vocal. This track was begging for Keith imho.
I can't speak for anyone else, music is feeling, but I have exactly the same thing you mention. In my 60 years of being a Stones fan, I have never before experienced that I like an entire album so much. I don't skip a single song with spinning. I did with the albums before this one. There were always at least three songs I didn't like. And that childish whining about Mick's voice makes you sick. I'm not religious but it's a miracle of God that we can experience this in 2023. A band of 80-year-olds. This is and dream come true, it eases difficult periodesein your life. When I'm not listening in the house, I listen outside on my mp3 player. Dear people it is a 3 chord music, straightforward couldn't be simpler. Enjoy it.
It's a good album that could have been one of the greats, I love Mick's voice in every album up until his first solo album, and his voice on every track on every Stones album up to BTB, it did irritate me on a few tracks from as early as Dirty Work. I'm not overly complaining, i just can't be doing with the nasal twang thing he started doing, and as I've said he puts his voice too high in the mix. Pleased you love it though i remember that feeling all the way through Tattoo You, it's an incredible gift when you just can't get enough of his voice i too felt that way a few decades ago.