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Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

I know Cleveland was there, do you know if Louisville was ever part of it?

Louisville wasn't on the 2023 list.



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Will the tour be announced this year?

Yes

Definitely NO

Check back in a couple of weeks

So November 20th 2023? We will see.

For the reference, these were the rumored dates for the summer tour 2023, as published here on IORR:

Jun 18 Edmonton Alberta Canada, Edmonton Commonwealth stadium (48,000)
Jun 30 Chicago IL USA, Soldier Field (50,000)
Jul 08 Foxboro (near Boston) MA USA, Gillette Stadium (50,000)
Jul 20 Cleveland OH USA Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium (50,000)

Source: iorr.org

Maybe out of context, but in Feb 2023 bv wrote:

"First of all please do not bring US domestic politics or politicians into IORR discussions.

Secondly, please do not shoot people who post here or other places. Any rumour is a valid rumour, even if it does not fit into fixed ideas about previous tours.

Thirdly, there have been rumours about venues like UBS Arena (near Queens NYC). Also, arena shows at the beginning or end of the tour may be done with a much smaller crew vs stadium shows, i.e. at a lower cost, as we have seen many many times over the years (Waldbühne 2022, Miami/Hollywood 2021, T-Mobile Arena 2016, O2 Arena 2007 etc).

Finally, I have reason to believe they are working on some sort of a combined tour, may be June to September, then they would need slightly different schedules and configurations vs in the recent past. Please keep in mind they will tour behind a new album, it does not happen that often."

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Topi
Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

Woz and bv were talking about 20 dates so I'm guessing 2023 plus some cherries on top?

My guess is since there is a new album out and another year to let demand reset they might play a few places they otherwise would have skipped last year like LA and Las Vegas. Then add Jazzfest, another random stadium date and possibly Hard Rock again in Florida or even Mexico City x 2 and you have 20 dates.

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Topi
Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

Woz and bv were talking about 20 dates so I'm guessing 2023 plus some cherries on top?

Could be. The 2023 list had 14 shows in 13 cities.

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For the reference, these were the rumored dates for the summer tour 2023, as published here on IORR:

Jun 18 Edmonton Alberta Canada, Edmonton Commonwealth stadium (48,000)
Jun 30 Chicago IL USA, Soldier Field (50,000)
Jul 08 Foxboro (near Boston) MA USA, Gillette Stadium (50,000)
Jul 20 Cleveland OH USA Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium (50,000)

Source: iorr.org

The tour start date was June 6th in Glendale and the end date was August 1 in Philly. BV mentioned both of those here as well. [iorr.org]

And we all remember the Philly date got accidentally published on Ticketmaster for a brief moment in February.



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Don’t count out a short Aussie tour before the US dates.
Been hearing late April in Melbourne as a rumour.
I will be torn as I am out of the country all April.

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Don’t count out a short Aussie tour before the US dates.
Been hearing late April in Melbourne as a rumour.
I will be torn as I am out of the country all April.

Late April in Melbourne and JazzFest on May 2?

Doubtful.

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Don’t count out a short Aussie tour before the US dates.
Been hearing late April in Melbourne as a rumour.
I will be torn as I am out of the country all April.

I’ll hold u to this!!!! lol. Save me going to the US!!

Rod



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Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

I'm not sure of the first or last date, but think it starts in late April and runs into July.



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Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

Woz and bv were talking about 20 dates so I'm guessing 2023 plus some cherries on top?

I've got some guesses of what those cherries might be. What I'd like to know is whether any of them are cities that were played on the '21 tour. I would tend to think not, but think one or two of the bigger markets could make it. A related question is whether they'll be back to serve one of them later in the year, which I think quite possible.

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Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

I'm not sure of the first or last date, but think it starts in late April and runs into July.

Makes sense considering the off days needed between shows + the usual mid-tour bye week.



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Looks like the thread has a revised title!

BV mentioned spring and early summer. This is consistent with what I had been hearing about a tour in April-June.

The lawyer in me still thinks they're mainly going to make up for the 2023 shows they were supposed (remember, Ronnie said: "committed") to play, with some added dates/changes. We'll see.

Woz and bv were talking about 20 dates so I'm guessing 2023 plus some cherries on top?

I've got some guesses of what those cherries might be. What I'd like to know is whether any of them are cities that were played on the '21 tour. I would tend to think not, but think one or two of the bigger markets could make it. A related question is whether they'll be back to serve one of them later in the year, which I think quite possible.

C’mon Nashville!

No way would I be lucky enough to get a ticket or rich enough to afford a resold one, but The Ryman would be a transcendent place for The Stones to play. The acoustics. The intimacy. The history. The country music ties. It’s almost too perfect. And a concert film of it? Please someone make this happen!!!



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Most shows in 2021 were 75% full (regardless of boxscores posting sellouts). Things picked up a bit in 22/23, I think everyone opened up too soon, I know a lot of Stones fans who stayed locked down that tour. I know one who still hasn't gone outside.

At least they have a multigenerational fan base. Geezers aren't coming out in the same numbers as they were prepandemic. Yet the bands aren't going away even as individual members drop off. Expect 90% of the bands who ever existed to be on the road in 2024.

On top of that I expect a major price bump over past tours. Part of the reason they might be considering 20 instead of 14 is the jump in expenses as well as hiring / retaining staff might mean they have to do more shows. That also squeezes demand.

Just speculation but supply demand issues and production cost increases are real. Also industry speculation another concert crash might be coming. High prices, too many bands on the road and squeezes on disposable income.

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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

I know. But The Ryman holds only 2,300.

Elite venue. Check out a show next time you’re in Nashville. You won’t regret it.



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Most shows in 2021 were 75% full (regardless of boxscores posting sellouts). Things picked up a bit in 22/23, I think everyone opened up too soon, I know a lot of Stones fans who stayed locked down that tour. I know one who still hasn't gone outside.

At least they have a multigenerational fan base. Geezers aren't coming out in the same numbers as they were prepandemic. Yet the bands aren't going away even as individual members drop off. Expect 90% of the bands who ever existed to be on the road in 2024.

On top of that I expect a major price bump over past tours. Part of the reason they might be considering 20 instead of 14 is the jump in expenses as well as hiring / retaining staff might mean they have to do more shows. That also squeezes demand.

Just speculation but supply demand issues and production cost increases are real. Also industry speculation another concert crash might be coming. High prices, too many bands on the road and squeezes on disposable income.

I could see a 30%-40% jump in prices compared to the 2019 US tour. $500 pits become $700, $100 nosebleeds become $135 and so on. I’ll be LD-ing it so it won’t matter to me.



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Most shows in 2021 were 75% full (regardless of boxscores posting sellouts). Things picked up a bit in 22/23, I think everyone opened up too soon, I know a lot of Stones fans who stayed locked down that tour. I know one who still hasn't gone outside.

At least they have a multigenerational fan base. Geezers aren't coming out in the same numbers as they were prepandemic. Yet the bands aren't going away even as individual members drop off. Expect 90% of the bands who ever existed to be on the road in 2024.

On top of that I expect a major price bump over past tours. Part of the reason they might be considering 20 instead of 14 is the jump in expenses as well as hiring / retaining staff might mean they have to do more shows. That also squeezes demand.

Just speculation but supply demand issues and production cost increases are real. Also industry speculation another concert crash might be coming. High prices, too many bands on the road and squeezes on disposable income.

I could see a 30%-40% jump in prices compared to the 2019 US tour. $500 pits become $700, $100 nosebleeds become $135 and so on. I’ll be LD-ing it so it won’t matter to me.

Yeah but think about it, those $25 tickets now go to $35. Staggering increase in price!

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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Most shows in 2021 were 75% full (regardless of boxscores posting sellouts). Things picked up a bit in 22/23, I think everyone opened up too soon, I know a lot of Stones fans who stayed locked down that tour. I know one who still hasn't gone outside.

At least they have a multigenerational fan base. Geezers aren't coming out in the same numbers as they were prepandemic. Yet the bands aren't going away even as individual members drop off. Expect 90% of the bands who ever existed to be on the road in 2024.

On top of that I expect a major price bump over past tours. Part of the reason they might be considering 20 instead of 14 is the jump in expenses as well as hiring / retaining staff might mean they have to do more shows. That also squeezes demand.

Just speculation but supply demand issues and production cost increases are real. Also industry speculation another concert crash might be coming. High prices, too many bands on the road and squeezes on disposable income.

I could see a 30%-40% jump in prices compared to the 2019 US tour. $500 pits become $700, $100 nosebleeds become $135 and so on. I’ll be LD-ing it so it won’t matter to me.

Yeah but think about it, those $25 tickets now go to $35. Staggering increase in price!

Do they have a payment plan for the LDs?

Sorry I missed the Ryman part.

I was actually going to go to Nashville in 2020, but somebody decided to eat a bat.

We'll see what happens, but alas, Nashville was not among the cities on the planned 2023 tour.



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Most shows in 2021 were 75% full (regardless of boxscores posting sellouts). Things picked up a bit in 22/23, I think everyone opened up too soon, I know a lot of Stones fans who stayed locked down that tour. I know one who still hasn't gone outside.

At least they have a multigenerational fan base. Geezers aren't coming out in the same numbers as they were prepandemic. Yet the bands aren't going away even as individual members drop off. Expect 90% of the bands who ever existed to be on the road in 2024.

On top of that I expect a major price bump over past tours. Part of the reason they might be considering 20 instead of 14 is the jump in expenses as well as hiring / retaining staff might mean they have to do more shows. That also squeezes demand.

Just speculation but supply demand issues and production cost increases are real. Also industry speculation another concert crash might be coming. High prices, too many bands on the road and squeezes on disposable income.

I could see a 30%-40% jump in prices compared to the 2019 US tour. $500 pits become $700, $100 nosebleeds become $135 and so on. I’ll be LD-ing it so it won’t matter to me.

I always treat LD's as a pleasant surprise but never just assume they are in the cards every time.

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For the reference, these were the rumored dates for the summer tour 2023, as published here on IORR:

Jun 18 Edmonton Alberta Canada, Edmonton Commonwealth stadium (48,000)
Jun 30 Chicago IL USA, Soldier Field (50,000)
Jul 08 Foxboro (near Boston) MA USA, Gillette Stadium (50,000)
Jul 20 Cleveland OH USA Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium (50,000)

Source: iorr.org

The tour start date was June 6th in Glendale and the end date was August 1 in Philly. BV mentioned both of those here as well. [iorr.org]

And we all remember the Philly date got accidentally published on Ticketmaster for a brief moment in February.

Add in San Francisco or another Bay Area city, Seattle, Vancouver, Denver, 2 in the NYC area (probably East Rutherford), I believe Houston and that is 13 of the 14. There was talk of that small show in Missouri, but I don’t know if that was the 14th show or a potential 15th show after Philadelphia. Topi, can you share what the potential missing city was?

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For the reference, these were the rumored dates for the summer tour 2023, as published here on IORR:

Jun 18 Edmonton Alberta Canada, Edmonton Commonwealth stadium (48,000)
Jun 30 Chicago IL USA, Soldier Field (50,000)
Jul 08 Foxboro (near Boston) MA USA, Gillette Stadium (50,000)
Jul 20 Cleveland OH USA Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium (50,000)

Source: iorr.org

The tour start date was June 6th in Glendale and the end date was August 1 in Philly. BV mentioned both of those here as well. [iorr.org]

And we all remember the Philly date got accidentally published on Ticketmaster for a brief moment in February.

Add in San Francisco or another Bay Area city, Seattle, Vancouver, Denver, 2 in the NYC area (probably East Rutherford), I believe Houston and that is 13 of the 14. There was talk of that small show in Missouri, but I don’t know if that was the 14th show or a potential 15th show after Philadelphia. Topi, can you share what the potential missing city was?

That Missouri city I thought was like Branson but there is some massive field where Garth Brooks played but it was also a total clusterfuck with fans unable to get in. Then again so was Stones Austin and that didn't stop them from booking additional shows there.

[www.ky3.com]

I would love to see them at the Sphere in LasVegas: 1) great sound, no more stacks of big black speakers, speakers are everywhere and 2) great screens. Stones have been at the big display forefront forever. These are the greatest in modern technology. Think the most realistic background that fits a song, ie fire for Sympathy, but taken to the highest quality and surround display. And fits in without distraction.

Of course I’ll go anywhere and hope to see about a dozen shows this year.

Sphere isn't going to happen

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For the reference, these were the rumored dates for the summer tour 2023, as published here on IORR:

Jun 18 Edmonton Alberta Canada, Edmonton Commonwealth stadium (48,000)
Jun 30 Chicago IL USA, Soldier Field (50,000)
Jul 08 Foxboro (near Boston) MA USA, Gillette Stadium (50,000)
Jul 20 Cleveland OH USA Cleveland FirstEnergy Stadium (50,000)

Source: iorr.org

The tour start date was June 6th in Glendale and the end date was August 1 in Philly. BV mentioned both of those here as well. [iorr.org]

And we all remember the Philly date got accidentally published on Ticketmaster for a brief moment in February.

Add in San Francisco or another Bay Area city, Seattle, Vancouver, Denver, 2 in the NYC area (probably East Rutherford), I believe Houston and that is 13 of the 14. There was talk of that small show in Missouri, but I don’t know if that was the 14th show or a potential 15th show after Philadelphia. Topi, can you share what the potential missing city was?

It was Ridgedale. BV mentioned it here on the forum. [iorr.org]

You nailed it, BTW. San Francisco was in. It was supposed to be the second show on the tour.



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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Even if you miss the first few songs. #munich

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You can always get a ticket to a stadium show - eventually.

Even if you miss the first few songs. #munich

LOL, that was another matter - an example of Germsn Lucky Dip distribution efficiency at its finest!