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snoopy2
Maybe I benefit from having an inexpensive Sears turntable and 2nd-hand speakers but I love this release.. Or maybe I’ve listened to so many bootlegs of that tour that this sounds awesome in comparison
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GerardHennessy
I saw The Stones at Slane Castle a few days before the Wembley concert. Same set list. And a very similar sound to that of the Wembley recording. At Slane Castle I was very disappointed indeed by the sound. And would use the very words you use to describe it. Distant & muddled. I'd also add that it was somewhat flat and forced.
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snoopy2
Maybe I benefit from having an inexpensive Sears turntable and 2nd-hand speakers but I love this release.. Or maybe I’ve listened to so many bootlegs of that tour that this sounds awesome in comparison
Nothing wrong with this release at all. And of course it is wonderful to have a recording of the concert. The sound is not awful by any means. It is perfectly audible. If I was selling it as a bootleg, I'd describe it as acceptable. The shortcomings in the sound are not in any way the fault of the recording. It is the sound produced on stage that the audience heard on the day. To me it is somewhat disappointing. A little bit muffled and lumpen. Its not the searing, stinging sound The Stones usually achieve.
It might simply be the limitations of the technology at the time. It might be the poor acoustics of Wembley itself. It might be a whole lot of things we don't know about. For me, the most interesting aspect of it all is that the sound at Wembley reminds me so clearly of the sound at Slane Castle. A totally different setting with none of the acoustic limitations that the old Wembley inflicted on performers. And the weather at Slane was excellent on the day, so it was most certainly not that....
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I've been to 20+ shows...
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GerardHennessy
I saw The Stones at Slane Castle a few days before the Wembley concert. Same set list. And a very similar sound to that of the Wembley recording. At Slane Castle I was very disappointed indeed by the sound. And would use the very words you use to describe it. Distant & muddled. I'd also add that it was somewhat flat and forced.
Slane was four weeks after Wembley. Sound was great where I was!
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snoopy2
Maybe I benefit from having an inexpensive Sears turntable and 2nd-hand speakers but I love this release.. Or maybe I’ve listened to so many bootlegs of that tour that this sounds awesome in comparison
Nothing wrong with this release at all. And of course it is wonderful to have a recording of the concert. The sound is not awful by any means. It is perfectly audible. If I was selling it as a bootleg, I'd describe it as acceptable. The shortcomings in the sound are not in any way the fault of the recording. It is the sound produced on stage that the audience heard on the day. To me it is somewhat disappointing. A little bit muffled and lumpen. Its not the searing, stinging sound The Stones usually achieve.
It might simply be the limitations of the technology at the time. It might be the poor acoustics of Wembley itself. It might be a whole lot of things we don't know about. For me, the most interesting aspect of it all is that the sound at Wembley reminds me so clearly of the sound at Slane Castle. A totally different setting with none of the acoustic limitations that the old Wembley inflicted on performers. And the weather at Slane was excellent on the day, so it was most certainly not that....
Actually, that was the sound of the 1982 tour in general, and I've been to 20+ shows... Only the indoor shows in Frankfurt were better balanced & clearer. An austrian TV report described it as the sound of a "student band", well, that was exaggerated imo, but I would say it had a certain "garage" feel - and for me it was great how it was, definitely had a blast...
In case they had multitracks to work with, I see no reason why with all this modern technology a much better sound could not have been achieved, so I think they intentionally tried to recreate the sound as it could be heard by the audience back then - and I'm perfectly ok with that.
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falo01
"Only the indoor shows in Frankfurt were better balanced & clearer."
Funny, since Festhalle is known to have desastrous sound, at least
the shows I have heard there in the 2000s (non Stones).
On the other side, the 1982 recording tell their own story.
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snoopy2
Maybe I benefit from having an inexpensive Sears turntable and 2nd-hand speakers but I love this release.. Or maybe I’ve listened to so many bootlegs of that tour that this sounds awesome in comparison
Nothing wrong with this release at all. And of course it is wonderful to have a recording of the concert. The sound is not awful by any means. It is perfectly audible. If I was selling it as a bootleg, I'd describe it as acceptable. The shortcomings in the sound are not in any way the fault of the recording. It is the sound produced on stage that the audience heard on the day. To me it is somewhat disappointing. A little bit muffled and lumpen. Its not the searing, stinging sound The Stones usually achieve.
It might simply be the limitations of the technology at the time. It might be the poor acoustics of Wembley itself. It might be a whole lot of things we don't know about. For me, the most interesting aspect of it all is that the sound at Wembley reminds me so clearly of the sound at Slane Castle. A totally different setting with none of the acoustic limitations that the old Wembley inflicted on performers. And the weather at Slane was excellent on the day, so it was most certainly not that....
Actually, that was the sound of the 1982 tour in general, and I've been to 20+ shows... Only the indoor shows in Frankfurt were better balanced & clearer. An austrian TV report described it as the sound of a "student band", well, that was exaggerated imo, but I would say it had a certain "garage" feel - and for me it was great how it was, definitely had a blast...
In case they had multitracks to work with, I see no reason why with all this modern technology a much better sound could not have been achieved, so I think they intentionally tried to recreate the sound as it could be heard by the audience back then - and I'm perfectly ok with that.
Thank you. I'm envious that you attended so many events. And very pleased you had as blast. Your overall reflections about the sound in general accord very much with my own. And I think you are spot on in what you say about them leaving the sound 'as was'. I think the band have deliberately retained the sound and feel of the performance they delivered back then. Rather than artificially tarting it up.
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snoopy2
Maybe I benefit from having an inexpensive Sears turntable and 2nd-hand speakers but I love this release.. Or maybe I’ve listened to so many bootlegs of that tour that this sounds awesome in comparison
Nothing wrong with this release at all. And of course it is wonderful to have a recording of the concert. The sound is not awful by any means. It is perfectly audible. If I was selling it as a bootleg, I'd describe it as acceptable. The shortcomings in the sound are not in any way the fault of the recording. It is the sound produced on stage that the audience heard on the day. To me it is somewhat disappointing. A little bit muffled and lumpen. Its not the searing, stinging sound The Stones usually achieve.
It might simply be the limitations of the technology at the time. It might be the poor acoustics of Wembley itself. It might be a whole lot of things we don't know about. For me, the most interesting aspect of it all is that the sound at Wembley reminds me so clearly of the sound at Slane Castle. A totally different setting with none of the acoustic limitations that the old Wembley inflicted on performers. And the weather at Slane was excellent on the day, so it was most certainly not that....
Actually, that was the sound of the 1982 tour in general, and I've been to 20+ shows... Only the indoor shows in Frankfurt were better balanced & clearer. An austrian TV report described it as the sound of a "student band", well, that was exaggerated imo, but I would say it had a certain "garage" feel - and for me it was great how it was, definitely had a blast...
In case they had multitracks to work with, I see no reason why with all this modern technology a much better sound could not have been achieved, so I think they intentionally tried to recreate the sound as it could be heard by the audience back then - and I'm perfectly ok with that.