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Jbeckerfan
Here is my question: If the Stones knew Graham was stealing from them, and simply didn't trust him, why didn't they give him that as the reason for not doing the tour with him in 1989?
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lem motlow
But wait, isn’t Jagger a putz for hanging out with high society and meeting people like “Prince Rupert” who Mick subsequently hired to look after the bands finances?
Hmmm I’d like to keep my “artistic credibility” and still own a couple of mansions and an island home or two while being too fckd up to stay awake.How do I do that?
I’ll take Mick Jagger for $500 million Alex.
Mick learned the game and handed Bill and every other promoter their ass on a platter.to this day that lady that handles the bands business gets the final say from one man.it’s about time the Stones fanbase acknowledged it.
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lem motlow
The absolute fantasy that Keith had anything to do with any business deal involving the Stones is laughable.
Any quote from him regarding the bands financial situation is him repeating something Mick Jagger told him.
The guy spent years in a drunken drugged out haze while Mick covered his ass.
You can find interviews with Charlie and Bill talking about Keith falling asleep at a table when discussions were going on involving millions of dollars.
We should all be so lucky to have a Mick Jagger in our lives.a guy you can have take care of you and make sure you get paid while you shit talk him.
Your family lives in luxury because this man learned the game and protected his band.
I love the cartoon character and the fantasy as much anyone but the landscape of rock and roll is littered with guys who have had every dollar stolen from them.
Who do you really, honestly think stopped that from happening to the Stones?
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lem motlow
But wait, isn’t Jagger a putz for hanging out with high society and meeting people like “Prince Rupert” who Mick subsequently hired to look after the bands finances?
Hmmm I’d like to keep my “artistic credibility” and still own a couple of mansions and an island home or two while being too fckd up to stay awake.How do I do that?
I’ll take Mick Jagger for $500 million Alex.
Mick learned the game and handed Bill and every other promoter their ass on a platter.to this day that lady that handles the bands business gets the final say from one man.it’s about time the Stones fanbase acknowledged it.
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snoopy2
Graham and Wyman.. I got a bit tangled up for a minute trying to understand how Bill the bass player didn’t participate in Steel Wheels tour
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thecitadel
I guess that the Stones wanted two competitive bids to promote the 1989 tour, and Bill G and Michael C were those bids - get the best deal and hungry promoters.
But you don't then tell the loser that "you could never win anyway because of some dodgy accounting in the past" because you'd get sued for bid costs and maybe damages.
Smart move by the Stones - whether it was Prince Rupert, Mick, Keith or anyone else.
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lem motlow
The absolute fantasy that Keith had anything to do with any business deal involving the Stones is laughable.
Any quote from him regarding the bands financial situation is him repeating something Mick Jagger told him.
The guy spent years in a drunken drugged out haze while Mick covered his ass.
You can find interviews with Charlie and Bill talking about Keith falling asleep at a table when discussions were going on involving millions of dollars.
We should all be so lucky to have a Mick Jagger in our lives.a guy you can have take care of you and make sure you get paid while you shit talk him.
Your family lives in luxury because this man learned the game and protected his band.
I love the cartoon character and the fantasy as much anyone but the landscape of rock and roll is littered with guys who have had every dollar stolen from them.
Who do you really, honestly think stopped that from happening to the Stones?
I think you may want to give Keith Richards a second look when it comes to the business part of the Stones.
Keith’s not the man to sit in a counting house board room with Prince Rupert, but when it comes to applying business tactics in the real world—whether it be sitting next to Bill Graham on an infamous plane ride in 1989, standing silently behind Alan Klein and Andrew Loog Oldham with a pair of sunglasses in 1965, doing a paid cameo in a Disney movie, or simply expecting to be repaid for loans simply out of principle (and being willing to cut people out of his life when they don’t)—Keith is very much concerned about making money, and how this system operates.
And I agree 100% with you: we should ALL be so lucky to have a man like Mick Jagger in our lives when it comes to finances.
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lem motlow
The absolute fantasy that Keith had anything to do with any business deal involving the Stones is laughable.
Any quote from him regarding the bands financial situation is him repeating something Mick Jagger told him.
The guy spent years in a drunken drugged out haze while Mick covered his ass.
You can find interviews with Charlie and Bill talking about Keith falling asleep at a table when discussions were going on involving millions of dollars.
We should all be so lucky to have a Mick Jagger in our lives.a guy you can have take care of you and make sure you get paid while you shit talk him.
Your family lives in luxury because this man learned the game and protected his band.
I love the cartoon character and the fantasy as much anyone but the landscape of rock and roll is littered with guys who have had every dollar stolen from them.
Who do you really, honestly think stopped that from happening to the Stones?
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lem motlow
The absolute fantasy that Keith had anything to do with any business deal involving the Stones is laughable.
Any quote from him regarding the bands financial situation is him repeating something Mick Jagger told him.
The guy spent years in a drunken drugged out haze while Mick covered his ass.
You can find interviews with Charlie and Bill talking about Keith falling asleep at a table when discussions were going on involving millions of dollars.
We should all be so lucky to have a Mick Jagger in our lives.a guy you can have take care of you and make sure you get paid while you shit talk him.
Your family lives in luxury because this man learned the game and protected his band.
I love the cartoon character and the fantasy as much anyone but the landscape of rock and roll is littered with guys who have had every dollar stolen from them.
Who do you really, honestly think stopped that from happening to the Stones?
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stevecardi
I think you may want to give Keith Richards a second look when it comes to the business part of the Stones.
Keith’s not the man to sit in a counting house board room with Prince Rupert, but when it comes to applying business tactics in the real world—whether it be sitting next to Bill Graham on an infamous plane ride in 1989, standing silently behind Alan Klein and Andrew Loog Oldham with a pair of sunglasses in 1965, doing a paid cameo in a Disney movie, or simply expecting to be repaid for loans simply out of principle (and being willing to cut people out of his life when they don’t)—Keith is very much concerned about making money, and how this system operates.
And I agree 100% with you: we should ALL be so lucky to have a man like Mick Jagger in our lives when it comes to finances.
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Paddy
Some guys are good at making bread, but if there’s no bread there’s nothing to sell. Keith might be lucky to be in band with Jagger who does the heavy lifting financially, but Mick is lucky he’s in a band with a guy who was a prolific writer. (Bread Maker)
I think with respect of the touring financials, stage design, etc, Charlie had more influence and say than folk might think.
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DGA35
I also remember a quote from Bill Graham (paraphrasing): My lover is now a whore.
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GasLightStreet
It's absolute fantasy that you think Keith has zero to do with the Stones' finances.
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GasLightStreet
It's absolute fantasy that you think Keith has zero to do with the Stones' finances.
I think Keith is totally clueless when it comes to basic daily things, and even more or so about managing the band™.
I remember reading a 99 interview where he said he gave a 50 quid tip to a London taxi driver and the person who was with him had to tell him it was too much.
Mick is the shield that protects Keef from the hardships of real life. Can you imagine our favourite guitarist putting together a tour? Me neither.
Keith is the consumate artist, but outside of his protective bubble he is like a fish out of water.