I seem to remember there being talk of several more discs worth of fully finished outtakes and I'm wondering if there is any news regarding their release?

I think it's likely The Rolling Stones bought the leaker



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By the way, the first 50 is fantastic material, isn't it?

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By the way, the first 50 is fantastic material, isn't it?

It certainly is, that's why I'm desperate for more!

well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

We still seem to lack a consensus what the word "volume" means in this regard. The set consisted of three CDs and the comprehensiveness of it makes it unlikely there's any more to it.

At the time the word was that there was more to come...it didn't happen, who knows why. Chances are someone put their foot down ! If the material is out there it will appear at some point. In the meantime we have the new album to look forward to with an announcement likely imminent.

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At the time the word was that there was more to come...it didn't happen, who knows why. Chances are someone put their foot down ! If the material is out there it will appear at some point...

YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Well, "absolutely nothing" is a bit much. Gotdablouse knows plenty about many things. It is possible he was misinformed about this. That happens to all of us.

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At the time the word was that there was more to come...it didn't happen, who knows why. Chances are someone put their foot down ! If the material is out there it will appear at some point...

YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Well, gotdablouse pretty much admitted that he doesn't know much, just guessing. But since you are sure about him not knowing anything, the question arises: do you happen to know more?

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YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Interesting attitude .... for just a second post here.

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YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Interesting attitude .... for just a second post here.

Considering the first post too, one cannot help but think that he/she/it is a troll.

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At the time the word was that there was more to come...it didn't happen, who knows why. Chances are someone put their foot down ! If the material is out there it will appear at some point...

YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

If the things that you know but gotdablouse doesn't have to do with the desparately anticipated new album you might want to spill some beans in the new album thread. A new buzz is always welcome there.

Pump out more ... One of the best boots ever ...



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Well, "absolutely nothing" is a bit much. Gotdablouse knows plenty about many things. It is possible he was misinformed about this. That happens to all of us.

I stood in line one day for the 13th anniversary tour for DIRTY WORK. Tickets never went on sale.

What number in line were you ????



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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

wow thanks for responding

sounds like these tracks are already circulating but just aren't avaliable to the broader public yet

not asking you to share if you can't but if you've heard the demo for one more shot can you describe it?

how does it compare to the final version?

and that version of hide your love does it sound like it's from the same source as what was shared here or something else?



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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

wow thanks for responding

sounds like these tracks are already circulating but just aren't avaliable to the broader public yet

not asking you to share if you can't but if you've heard the demo for one more shot can you describe it?

how does it compare to the final version?

and that version of hide your love does it sound like it's from the same source as what was shared here or something else?

I once had the chance to hear Keiths version but I do not own it. It was quite similar to the Stones version as tempo and rythm goes. But it was more rough and had more edges than the Stones version. I would describe it as a typical Richards/Jordan song. I think there were some differences in the lyrics but I can't remember if Keiths lyrics were completely finished or not.

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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

wow thanks for responding

sounds like these tracks are already circulating but just aren't avaliable to the broader public yet

not asking you to share if you can't but if you've heard the demo for one more shot can you describe it?

how does it compare to the final version?

and that version of hide your love does it sound like it's from the same source as what was shared here or something else?

I once had the chance to hear Keiths version but I do not own it. It was quite similar to the Stones version as tempo and rythm goes. But it was more rough and had more edges than the Stones version. I would describe it as a typical Richards/Jordan song. I think there were some differences in the lyrics but I can't remember if Keiths lyrics were completely finished or not.

How was Meegan Voss's harmony vocals?

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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

wow thanks for responding

sounds like these tracks are already circulating but just aren't avaliable to the broader public yet

not asking you to share if you can't but if you've heard the demo for one more shot can you describe it?

how does it compare to the final version?

and that version of hide your love does it sound like it's from the same source as what was shared here or something else?

I once had the chance to hear Keiths version but I do not own it. It was quite similar to the Stones version as tempo and rythm goes. But it was more rough and had more edges than the Stones version. I would describe it as a typical Richards/Jordan song. I think there were some differences in the lyrics but I can't remember if Keiths lyrics were completely finished or not.

How was Meegan Voss's harmony vocals?

I only heard it once and that was many years ago so I really don't remember anything else than what I described above. I would love to hear it again :-)

Let me venture in OT territory : I'd really like to hear the long-rumored B2B outtakes (the 8 songs not on Ffso) before I die.

And a tip of the hat to Gotdablouse, a very valuable member of IORR.

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Well, "absolutely nothing" is a bit much. Gotdablouse knows plenty about many things. It is possible he was misinformed about this. That happens to all of us.

I stood in line one day for the 13th anniversary tour for DIRTY WORK. Tickets never went on sale.

I do believe there are three different jokes in that post. Possibly four. Well done, sir.

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well as far as i can follow it either that was a misunderstanding based on the 3 original discs being labeled vol 1-3 instead of discs 1-3 so some seemed to think there where 2 more volumes coming

or

the guys who have the rest won't release more because there afraid of legal action from the band/universal etc.

or

the band already leaked what they wanted to

mathijs is the one who posted that there is 150 tracks total and then that they won't be released because of legal pressure (if i'm remembering correctly)

but that was almost two years ago so it doesn't look good that we'll get anymore soon

mathijs if you read this have you heard anymore about what's going on with the remaining tracks or is it still the same situation?

It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

wow thanks for responding

sounds like these tracks are already circulating but just aren't avaliable to the broader public yet

not asking you to share if you can't but if you've heard the demo for one more shot can you describe it?

how does it compare to the final version?

and that version of hide your love does it sound like it's from the same source as what was shared here or something else?

I once had the chance to hear Keiths version but I do not own it. It was quite similar to the Stones version as tempo and rythm goes. But it was more rough and had more edges than the Stones version. I would describe it as a typical Richards/Jordan song. I think there were some differences in the lyrics but I can't remember if Keiths lyrics were completely finished or not.

thank you for your memory of it

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I seem to remember there being talk of several more discs worth of fully finished outtakes and I'm wondering if there is any news regarding their release?

If anybody would have all the goodies it would be RSTG.

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It still is my understanding there are two volumes: the first one is the released 3 discs, and there is a second volume of two discs.

The two discs are at least partially based around 1973 to 1975 material some of it released here on IORR (Chuck Berry No with Harvey Mandel, the new unreleased demo of Hide Your Love, Fragile), new versions of Fiji Jim, and a disc with piano demos of different tracks (Fool to Cry, Memory Motel, Time Waits For No One). The GHS Deluxe piano version is from this disc. It is unclear to me when this was recorded, but it sounds modern 1990's or even 2000's. The 2002 sessions for Don't Stop are there, as is Keith's original demo of One More Shot.

Mathijs

Lots of crazy quoting here of the post immediately above like it's 1998 and no one knows how to use the internet ;-) So I've taken the liberty of extracting the best information we've had so far on FFSO II. Do I understand this right that somehow some piano demos were recorded in the 1990s or 2000s of these well known old songs ? Seems a bit odd ! On the other hand the "100 Years Ago" piano demo from GHS Deluxe sounded very modern to my ears so who knows...

Sadly and incredibly it seems that "English Rose" is NOT in that collection of songs.

PS - thanks for the kind words one and all ;-)

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I seem to remember there being talk of several more discs worth of fully finished outtakes and I'm wondering if there is any news regarding their release?

If anybody would have all the goodies it would be RSTG.

Some of the missing tracks were already released by RSTG late last year. The rest will follow around spring time.

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I seem to remember there being talk of several more discs worth of fully finished outtakes and I'm wondering if there is any news regarding their release?

If anybody would have all the goodies it would be RSTG.

Some of the missing tracks were already released by RSTG late last year. The rest will follow around spring time.

That is not my understanding.

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Do I understand this right that somehow some piano demos were recorded in the 1990s or 2000s of these well known old songs ? Seems a bit odd ! On the other hand the "100 Years Ago" piano demo from GHS Deluxe sounded very modern to my ears so who knows...

The tracks that I heard have the same piano sound as the '100 years ago' demo, and sound very much 1990's to 2000's to me.

Mathijs