Keith plays it in open tuning, I'm 100 % sure at least live in 1976 and 1977.

Don't know about the later versions but here it is live from Ready Steady Go in 1965 & I'm pretty sure he wasn't doing any open tunings back then. I recorded this myself off the tv.

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studio : standart
76/77: open g

Yes, Le Paul that is what I see too.

You sure about the 75-76 versions? Some of those licks would be pretty tough in open G. Maybe if he's only playing that fill in the verses, he could do it.

cc

The studio version is definitely in standard tuning. And I'm fairly positive the El Mocambo is too. Chuck Berry licks are much easier to play in standard than open tuning.

But in 1976 (Knebworth), 1977 he plays it on the Macabre, which he used in open tunings. Also , thje solo sounds like the solo on HTW, same guitar, same tuning, same solo techinque.

vox12string Wrote:
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> Don't know about the later versions but here it is
> live from Ready Steady Go in 1965 & I'm pretty
> sure he wasn't doing any open tunings back then. I
> recorded this myself off the tv.
>
>
Fascinating version. In fact, I never heard this before. Do you have more self-recorded TV or radio Stones stuff?
In particular, I'm looking for an excellent sounding version of Beautiful Delilah from the BBC sessions.



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This topic came up before not too long ago and before that it had never occured to me that it might be in open G on the El Mocambo record as I had always played it in standard tuning with no problems and I had never heard of Keith playing a Berry tune in an alternate tuning. Add to that that the studio version was defintely done in standard tuning. However the thread prompted me to try it in open G and you know what? It works!

For years I've played Roll over Bethoven in open tuning and mid way thru turned it into If the House is a Rock'n.

I doubt Around and Around is open but Playing Chuck Berry riffs in open is no problem what so ever.



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ChrisM Wrote:
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> This topic came up before not too long ago and
> before that it had never occured to me that it
> might be in open G on the El Mocambo record as I
> had always played it in standard tuning with no
> problems and I had never heard of Keith playing a
> Berry tune in an alternate tuning. Add to that
> that the studio version was defintely done in
> standard tuning. However the thread prompted me to
> try it in open G and you know what? It works!

It works great, in fact! Never thought about open G too.
Always played it in standart tuning, in the key of A.

I would think the double-stops on the top 2 strings would be a lot harder in open G, where your top string is tuned down a whole step. You'd have to use 2 fingers to play them, and you wouldn't have your other fingers then in position and free to hit the double-stops on the 2nd and 3rd strings, as in the opening to "Johnny B. Goode," "Carol," etc.

Now "Around & Around" might never go there, I'm trying to remember. It's got that "jazzy" lick through much of the verse...

Ah the "jazzy" lick. Do you mean the major 6th chords that Keith plays after the solo?

Well, in my vocab, the riff he plays after each vocal line is "jazzy" - yes, playing with the major 6th (or is it a 9th?). The choruses kick in to a more continuous 4/4 rhythm and more standard berry licks - the ones I think would be hard in open G - after mick announces, "but they kept on a-rockin." (though quite a CB few songs use that 6th-or-9th sliding lick, like "Memphis," I think). I'm more familiar with CB's version than the Stones', in my audio memory anyway ;-). Maybe that lick is as easy or easier in open G...

cc

i´m really interrested in the chords.can anyone post them? please, i´m much too stupid to figure them out on my own!!!!!!maybe a tabs? would be great!!

The '76 and '77 versions of A&A have Keith play in open G. If I recall correctly El Mocambo is A (open G with a capo on the 2nd fret) and Knebworth is in the key of G.

At the El Mocambo, Keith plays the solo with the same positions as he would play it in standard tuning, thus altering the E and A tones on the high E and B string to E and G. He does this trick also on the solo of Honky Tonk Women.

Mathijs

I know whatcha mean and i played the solo that way when i thought it was done in standard tuning then i relized its easier in open and that K. does it that way,

I really has to try this. I find it hard to think Keith uses open G for Around and arond, but I'll try it in the morning and get back to you. Chuck has certainly never used open tunings.

thank you Mathijs i´ll try it!

< would think the double-stops on the top 2 strings would be a lot harder in open G, where your top string is tuned down a whole step. You'd have to use 2 fingers to play them, and you wouldn't have your other fingers then in position and free to hit the double-stops on the 2nd and 3rd strings, as in the opening to "Johnny B. Goode," "Carol," etc.>

But when you listen to the double stops you hear that the highest note is a step down...