How many shows on this tour have actually sold out? I'm not talking ticketmaster having nothing available and/or ticket brokers having a handful come showtime; I'm talking looking around the arena/stadium and there isn't an empty seat? What are the actual numbers per show as compared to capacity?

Second, with the Stones at the Super Bowl,playing a Pepsi gig a few years back, their song on a soap opera (Streets of Love) and all the other merchandising and licensing, have they lost their integrity, and if so, when did they?

money...thats what i want...thats what i wa-ha-hant oh yeah...thats what i want!!!!!!



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EalingClub Wrote:
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> [H]ave they lost their
> integrity, and if so, when did they?

I'd say it was the moment they became professional musicians who made popular music, not that there's anything wrong with making money or being popular in and of itself.

As far as the Stones go . . .

"We copped out, but we did it for money, so it was all right."
- Keith Richards, circa 1968

EalingClub Wrote:
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> How many shows on this tour have actually sold
> out? I'm not talking ticketmaster having nothing
> available and/or ticket brokers having a handful
> come showtime; I'm talking looking around the
> arena/stadium and there isn't an empty seat?


most likely none but that is most likely true with any band. they have sold well over 90% of the tickets and considering they are the pretty much the only band to be playing stadiums now,that is fantastic drawing power considering high ticket prices.





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we all noticed that the stones have never been into social bussiness.

it is a big industry.i dont care , i still like them.

it wont suprise me if one day iread on the news they are
going on the stock exchange .

Bowie Bonds and Stones Shares

the 4 shows i went 2 ,, box office had tics the day of show for all 4 of them ..some front row ,,id say 3 shows mayb sold out MSG ,, mocton & ottawa ,,,all the other shows the day bfore on ticketbastard there were tics ,,some of them had front rows ,,,go 2 TM right now theres tics for tomors show

hershey, albany and giants stadium all sold out

no they weren't

Sadly, the Stones (a/k/a M. Cohl) are the only act not reporting gross numbers to Billboard. They send the final report at the end of the year/tour including god knows what.

Do they let you trade in your inferior tickets for better ones at the box office at the show? Just curious...

lonecrapshooter Wrote:
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> Bowie Bonds and Stones Shares


Sex Pistol Stocks.

JumpingKentFlash

They keep lowering the bar. As "bands" like Aerosmith did the super bowl, I thought at least the stones don't. But when mccartney did it, I knew it was only a matter of time. The sports tie-ins -- they had one with the nba towards the end of the licks tour -- are embarrassing, and getting worse as jagger makes scripted sports-related comments onstage. They must think their fans are yahoos.

Then again, recall the early days of lip-synching and rice krispies jingles.

Then again, they did cool things like not come out and wave to the fans at the end of one of those shows and got heat for it.

Then again, maybe that move was just marketing, too.

they got bills to pay......i did read that jon Densmore will not"rent" his doors songs out...good for him.....but my senese is he does not have the nut the mick or kieth must have.....break on through break on through .........

I sort of have a problem with the "selling out" thing. Yes, the Stones are
leaning to the sell out side, but more power to them. I remember that argument
when Zappa fans felt he sold out (Joe's Garage..Dancing Fool) but he opened
up his catalog to people who would have never cared before. Can you name any
groups from the 60's who didn't sell out? They seem to no longer exist. You
can make an argument that all groups sell out at some point in their careers.

Most shows have sold out

reg thorpe Wrote:
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> Can you name any
> groups from the 60's who didn't sell out? They
> seem to no longer exist. You
> can make an argument that all groups sell out at
> some point in their careers.
>

Neil Young, while not exactly a "group" has never sold out.

Don't want no cash
Don't need no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Pepsi
Ain't singin' for Coke
I don't sing for nobody
Makes me look like a joke
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Miller
Don't sing for Bud
I won't sing for politicians
Ain't singin' for Spuds
This note's for you.
Don't need no cash
Don't want no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
I've got the real thing
I got the real thing, baby
I got the real thing
Yeah, alright.


But to be clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with selling your work or appealing to popular tastes.



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Exactly.

Neil has not sold out.

stones like most bands are and have always been into it for the money...
it goes all the way back when brian jones took more money because he was the leader of the band, without telling the others... to when the stones got corporate sponsors..in fact they were thew very 1st band to use business sponsors to pay for their tours...jovan for men!

clearly the boys should dust off the ol' Between the Buttons chestnut for this tour:

All Sold Out

"Second, with the Stones at the Super Bowl,playing a Pepsi gig a few years back, their song on a soap opera (Streets of Love) and all the other merchandising and licensing, have they lost their integrity, and if so, when did they?"

When the copyrighted their tongue logo... they knew what they were doing. It's no hanging matter. It's no capitla crime. OH YEAH!!!

harlito1969 Wrote:
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> When the copyrighted their tongue logo... they
> knew what they were doing. It's no hanging matter.
> It's no capitla crime. OH YEAH!!!


That's as good a starting point as any. Of course, if I had spent the first 10 years of my career getting ripped off by folks like Allen B. Klein, I might start changing the way I approached the business end of the stick as well.