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That period between '86 and '89 is a VERY blurry line between being broken up and not.Quote
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Fortunately the Stones have never had a "comeback" tour. They never broke up so... STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE, even with hindsight, were awsome.
Not officially, but having not toured in 6 years and coming off a very dire album and WWIII, it was the closest thing to a comeback tour I believe we ever got.
I recall feeling a bit relieved they we're cranking it up again.
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i thought Guns and Roses was a lot better.
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i thought Guns and Roses was a lot better.
A good band to be sure, but come on.
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i thought Guns and Roses was a lot better.
A good band to be sure, but come on.
i think i understand; they are comparatively a gnat in one of the 2nd line players socks as far as comparative historical relevance.
Or groove. or connection to rolling American boogie hard blues.
by the time drummer Steven Adler quit, (or was dumped cuz drugs or watever), i was well past them.
but that night in los angeles; they were stunning and ferocious.
everything good about them had come together; whoever was mixing their sound;
i'm sure a Stones guy was all over the main boards, was super excellent.
imo there is not even a valid sonic comparison that could be made to the very noisy crowd on The Stones stage;
i'm sure up close Mick Jagger and those guys are incapable of being less than fascinating at work; i'm a true fan and admire every time they step up do this anywhere...
... did then too; wasn't pissed off or stunned or anything.
i didn't dig even the up tempo numbers like 'flip the switch'
which ARE good....that's on me; i'd had them do so much better versions of the same kinda 1.4.5 thing
in originals and covers and change the atmospherics in any nearby region; so i'm a believer and guns don't belong in the same sentence historically
or groove-wise; but that first record; and all those club gigs; and whatever the hell Geffen put around them in the way
of production and sound guys; was awesome; they used that whole stadium like seasoned pros;
i don't even really have interest in axl or any of them personally as a fan; but they, to my ears,
and i went to The Stones show;
not the 'warm-up act show,' but credit where it's due; they were ferocious and perfect and ON it. imo.
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I have to add that Cant Be Seen from Flashpoint is my favourite version of the song.
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Am I the only one who doesn't like Live at the Max?
I've never actually seen it on an IMAX screen, but watching it on a TV is painful. Everything about it feels artificial. There are some cool moments, but overall, it comes off like a digital simulation of a Stones concert.
twas great on imax.
Theres the steel wheels one. Both from the vault tokyo 1990 ones. And various live clips from previous tours ive watched on youtube.Quote
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I have to add that Cant Be Seen from Flashpoint is my favourite version of the song.
That's hilarious considering there is only one other version. Horrible song, really, but live it was a bit better.
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rebelhipiTheres the steel wheels one. Both from the vault tokyo 1990 ones. And various live clips from previous tours ive watched on youtube.Quote
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I have to add that Cant Be Seen from Flashpoint is my favourite version of the song.
That's hilarious considering there is only one other version. Horrible song, really, but live it was a bit better.
Cant be seen is actually one of my fav keith tunes.
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I saw them in 1994 twice at the CNE-Toronto and once at the Skydome.
I think I did that because in 1989 I only had opportunity to see them one night (Sept 3) at the CNE.
I would give a lot to go back and reverse that ratio.
20-year-old girls standing next to me in 1989 burst into tears during Ruby Tuesday. I cheered them up by lending my binoculars. It was a great, long, fulfilling show.
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Am I the only one who doesn't like Live at the Max?
I've never actually seen it on an IMAX screen, but watching it on a TV is painful. Everything about it feels artificial. There are some cool moments, but overall, it comes off like a digital simulation of a Stones concert.
twas great on imax.
It was fantastic on that giant screen and the loud speakers.
The artificial aspects of it... there were a lot of screwups when filming live, so they filmed them miming to those recorded shows, which are glaringly obvious, like when Mick is 300 feet from the mic during a part of Ruby Tuesday and Keith's fingers magically don't play the licks in the intro of Honky Tonk Women - the whole Keith intro is a fix. [www.youtube.com]
With the fixes it's probably the only time Mick has ever had to imitate himself, on command.
Although it's never said or shown, they must've had someone filming the live show for reference points for the fixes... unless they didn't anticipate having so many screwups.
About 2:30 in and then more later, not-live filming live screwups...
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There's an ad for INXS. I forgot how huge they were.
Part 3 shows the Keith Satisfaction solo fix, Charlie attempting to play what he did live... ha ha ha ha ha. IORR intro, Keith just goes into the chugging while the recording he's still finessing the opening licks... Mick standing a long ways away from the mic for Ruby Tuesday.
Possibly one of the more intricate giggles of that movie was Mick's screwup in IORR - they left it.
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Saw them in North Carolina -- it was my first show. I had been listening to them since 1978 but this was the first chance at seeing them.
I do remember thinking I was lucky to see them before they broke up for good. Remember I had been hearing they were old ever since I first became aware of them. And the '80s were not good for a Stones fan. You kept having to tell your friends, No, this is a great band, you have to dig deep into their catalog. Dirty Work was so disappointing. All we had from the '80s, really, was Talk in Cheap.
So my expectations were pretty modest. At one point Keith ran up to the top of some kind of staircase and I was frankly amazed he didn't keel over. After that I realized he was actually a fit man and would probably live forever.
It was a stadium show and I was too far away to see very much. When they played the 'obscure' songs (which many around me didn't know), that was a thrill.
It was a good show. They were professional and gave it their best.
Going home I thought, 'Ok, I've seen them, enjoyed it, thank you, that's it.'
I know this site is filled with guys who have seen them a hundred times, but that was enough. I'm not into all the stuff that goes with seeing a stadium show.
I've seen the Kinks several times at theaters and once in an actual bar so a stadium show couldn't compete with that, even if it was Keith Richards up there on stage, 100 yards away from me.
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I think this was the beginning of the new Stones, and it took them around 10 years to perfect it. The best shows came in 98 at MSG, and also 99.
Then, if memory serves me it was Licks with the small, medium, and large venues. Also strong shows. After this the tours start to falter slightly more each time.
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I think this was the beginning of the new Stones, and it took them around 10 years to perfect it. The best shows came in 98 at MSG, and also 99.
Then, if memory serves me it was Licks with the small, medium, and large venues. Also strong shows. After this the tours start to falter slightly more each time.
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But in '89 they took it to a whole new level: by literally creating a whole universe, and hauling it across the globe. That HUGE stage, with motifs, painters, fireworks
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But in '89 they took it to a whole new level: by literally creating a whole universe, and hauling it across the globe. That HUGE stage, with motifs, painters, fireworks
I'd credit Pink Floyd and their 1987 "A Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour" with this.