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Stoneage
A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
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Stoneage
A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
Strange that you say that; I think the sound is awful on Serious Moonlight, sounds like it's buired under cotton. The footage is good, but the sound; not so. If you want to hear the 1983 tour in all it's glory, one has to go to the bootleg market.
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Doxa
Musically they tell the same old story we have known for some 30 years.
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crholmstrom
I finally watched "Havana Moon" this weekend. I had listened to it but had been hesitant about watching it. The performance is fine & it was a historic show. The reason I was hesitant was born out. This could be just me but the the way "Havana" & "Summer Sun" were filmed makes me crazy. The editing gives me a headache. Whoever is directing doesn't give the performance any room to breathe. For instance I would like to watch Keith (& the others) perform for more than 10 seconds at a time before cutting to the next shot. Slight exaggeration there but not really. Also, I felt there were waaaaay too many crowd shots in both films. People were excited, ok we get it. I want to watch the band, not the crowd. we don't need to be in the film at the level that is being presented. I want to watch the Stones not a bunch people my age & older hippy dancing & having group hugs!
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Stoneage
How hard can it be? A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Agreed on the concert shots in 'Havana'. When MTV came along this became the new norm hiw to shoot live acts. Why on earth it was decided that everyone needs to see various angles within 10 seconds is beyond me. I love lingering shots when you can really take someone in.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Agreed on the concert shots in 'Havana'. When MTV came along this became the new norm hiw to shoot live acts. Why on earth it was decided that everyone needs to see various angles within 10 seconds is beyond me. I love lingering shots when you can really take someone in.
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Stoneage
A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
Strange that you say that; I think the sound is awful on Serious Moonlight, sounds like it's buired under cotton. The footage is good, but the sound; not so. If you want to hear the 1983 tour in all it's glory, one has to go to the bootleg market.
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Stoneage
A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
Strange that you say that; I think the sound is awful on Serious Moonlight, sounds like it's buired under cotton. The footage is good, but the sound; not so. If you want to hear the 1983 tour in all it's glory, one has to go to the bootleg market.
there's a great serious moonlight show in the "loving the alien" box. hopefully they'll release it on its own.
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mosthigh
Ever since MTV's '5 second rule' (must edit every 5 seconds or less) in the mid 80's, concert videos went downhill and never fully recovered imo.
That isn't to to say there haven't been some well edited ones (Led Zeppelin's 'Celebration Day' and Jeff Lynne's ELO 'Wembley or Bust' come to mind).
In the 70's, seeing a concert film in the cinema with an audience was already a somewhat 'live' experience (especially with drinking and smoking going on), so the performance could stand on its own without too many camera tricks. With home viewing, quick editing and frequent crowd shots tend to add more 'excitement', when sitting on the couch alone or with a small group.
If you watch, say, Paul McCartney's Space Within Us (2005), filmed at Anaheim CA, you get the impression it's Beatlemania all over again, with many shots of an enthusiastic crowd and quick, swooping camera angles. If you watch the exact same show from a single static camera shot (as the bootleg does), it doesn't come off quite the same.
As for recent Stones videos, 'Live at the Fonda' and 'Havana Moon' are, well, respectable, and 'Sweet Summer Sun' tries to capture the epicness of the event, but put them next to 'Ladies & Gentlemen', or 'LA '75', despite quality issues, are superior and more accurate snapshots as it happened.
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Stoneage
A favourite of mine is Bowie's "Serious Moonlight" concert video from 1983. Sound, vision and the audience interaction with the band is on top. Look at that one and learn.
Strange that you say that; I think the sound is awful on Serious Moonlight, sounds like it's buired under cotton. The footage is good, but the sound; not so. If you want to hear the 1983 tour in all it's glory, one has to go to the bootleg market.
there's a great serious moonlight show in the "loving the alien" box. hopefully they'll release it on its own.
It will be released as a stand alone in mid Feb according to DB's Facebook page.