.....And there probably won't be another Sway. Read his backstage review here:
[p081.ezboard.com]

JumpingKentFlash

could you cut/paste it JKF? I can't access that site from here....

Hope this is all right with Doug.

TAKEN FROM STONESDOUG'S SHIDOOBEE WEBSITE. ALL THANKS GOES OUT TO HIM!!!!!

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Last night was a blast. I was invited to go to the rattlesnake lounge backstage. None of the Stones came in but I got a hug from Bernard, who asked for a SHIDOOBEE shirts. Blondie came over and thanked me for the shirt I gave him the day before. Gave Bobby a wristband and Chuck a SHIDOOBEE shirt. Chuck sat down and ate his dinner with us. We talked about SHIDOOBEE a lot and how the band keeps track of what goes on here. I asked him how the band felt about SWAY and he said they probably wouldn't be playing it again. He said that Mick enjoys doing obscure stuff, but after they played it in Columbus, there were only about 200 people applauding and the rest of the audience looked like deer frozen in front of car headlights.
Another highlight of the night was seeing Colin Powell. The food was great, and tons of nice wines.
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JumpingKentFlash

Here's Doug's post:

"Last night was a blast. I was invited to go to the rattlesnake lounge backstage. None of the Stones came in but I got a hug from Bernard, who asked for a SHIDOOBEE shirts. Blondie came over and thanked me for the shirt I gave him the day before. Gave Bobby a wristband and Chuck a SHIDOOBEE shirt. Chuck sat down and ate his dinner with us. We talked about SHIDOOBEE a lot and how the band keeps track of what goes on here. I asked him how the band felt about SWAY and he said they probably wouldn't be playing it again. He said that Mick enjoys doing obscure stuff, but after they played it in Columbus, there were only about 200 people applauding and the rest of the audience looked like deer frozen in front of car headlights.
Another highlight of the night was seeing Colin Powell. The food was great, and tons of nice wines.

SHIDOOBEE"

(Posted at the same time EXACTLY as JumpingKentFlash!!)

a pity. i think that's a poor excuse if that's their reason for not playing it again (and I don't happen to believe that's the real reason).

Really?? He was backstage? Wow! Gee whiz!!! Oh! oh!! I might crap in my pants! Stonesdoug!!! Oh, wow!!! Golly!!! Tell me more about this 8th wonder of the world!!!! Please!!! OMIGOD!!!

What is some of you guys obsession with this freak? You treat him as if he is an actual Stone of something. He is wrong more than 50% of the time on his little "predictions". He is NOT an insider but just another Stones fan who is too high on himself.

Obsess the Stones, not Doug.

LOL!!!!

JumpingKentFlash

T&A it says basically that Leavell, while eating his dinner with them, told them that Jagger enjoys doing the obscure stuff. But when they did it the other night threy felt like maybe only 200 people recognized it and applauded. Blank stares from the rest of audience.
They did touch on the fact that the Stones keep tabs on the big Stones sites. It's implied that they are talking only about shidoobee but if anyone bothers to kniow the Net even a bit, one will immediately see at least four major Stonesboards. IORR, Shidoobee, Rocks Off and Keno.

Sladog Wrote:
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> What is some of you guys obsession with this
> freak? You treat him as if he is an actual Stone
> of something. He is wrong more than 50% of the
> time on his little "predictions". He is NOT an
> insider but just another Stones fan who is too
> high on himself.
>
> Obsess the Stones, not Doug.


Ah come on. He's a good guy. We don't think he's God, and neither does he.

JumpingKentFlash

I am sure the Stones themselves don't bother with the sties. They have handlers for that.

Also, wake up. If they actually paid attention to these sites the setlist would have changed a lot by now.

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Sladog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is some of you guys obsession with this
> > freak? You treat him as if he is an actual
> Stone
> > of something. He is wrong more than 50% of
> the
> > time on his little "predictions". He is NOT
> an
> > insider but just another Stones fan who is
> too
> > high on himself.
> >
> > Obsess the Stones, not Doug.
>
>
> Ah come on. He's a good guy. We don't think he's
> God, and neither does he.
>
>
> "Better than suicide"

Maybe but the way some of you post things about him show otherwise.

He was backstage man. He can tell us stuff that we didn't know, and we get a little insight to what's going on. It's good. I can only speak for myself, but I think it's important that the fans also get a little insight some times. It gives us stuff to talk about that we wouldn't talk about if we didn't know it. You gotta admit it's not a bad thing to know that they maybe won't play Sway again for a while.

JumpingKentFlash

it certainly keeps expectations low, JKF - after a brief, tenuous raising of them last week. But, don't believe the BS about 200 people applauding - the tape of the show indicates precisely the opposite reaction.

I've heard Mick say the same during the No Security tour- stuff like "Moonlight Mile" and "You Got The Silver" just seemed to go over the majority of the corporate rockers + entourage collective flat skulls. I have no idea why Mick would even worry about it. They are the Stones and they can do what they want, including, but not limited to, reading bitchy little chat boards like this one and playing the same warhorses every night just to piss off the whiners here.

Thing is, he was backstage...BIG DEAL!!! Back on the 1999 tour I spoke with Chuck, Bernard, Lisa and Blondie for quite a while the night before the show in the hotel (I was staying there as well). Does that make me an insider?

Look, all I am saying is that he is not God. He has been wrong many times on this and past tours. He comes across as being such an authority and he's not.

T&A Wrote: don't believe the BS about 200 people applauding -
> the tape of the show indicates precisely the
> opposite reaction.


Sorry, but it's fact. Me and my girlfriend were screaming and turning cartwheels but it seemed like everyone else we noticed had that "oh, well, that was neat" look on their faces. They knew something big happened, mainly cuz I was freaking out, but they didnt know what it was, did you, Mr. Jones?

sladog Wrote:
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> Thing is, he was backstage...BIG DEAL!!! Back on
> the 1999 tour I spoke with Chuck, Bernard, Lisa
> and Blondie for quite a while the night before the
> show in the hotel (I was staying there as well).
> Does that make me an insider?
>
> Look, all I am saying is that he is not God. He
> has been wrong many times on this and past tours.
> He comes across as being such an authority and
> he's not.


Damn, you're stupid.

Stupid huh? It was Stonesdoug that said there would be no more shows in NC after Charlotte. WRONG.

He said they would be doing several theater shows in major cities as they did on Licks. WRONG.

He said they would not be doing the new 19th Nervous Breakdown on the tour..that it was only for the club show. WRONG.

Just treat him as any other fan who has "insider" information.

Jealousy is not an admirable human trait.

Well, I don't treat him as God. I see him for what he is - a fan who happens to get all over the world to see the Stones and manages to get 'backstage' sometimes, sees various people in hotels etc (as many others do) and runs a message board.

So what if his info is wrong sometimes? Like JKF said, it gives us something to talk about. No-one is taking it all that seriously except, most noteably, Sladog.

sladog ya need some fresh air ma boy! It aint THAT big a deal....

Now I'm almost sorry that I posted it. It wasn't meant to become an argument.

JumpingKentFlash

bottom line is he didnt meet a stone, so it is meaningless
and how did he get back there anyway

Is it my ears or didn't Jagger stop singing in one part and the crowd sings
the next verse back to him?? doesn't sound like people who don't know what
song it was to me????

MLC

Why throw the baby (the CL info) out w/ the bathwater (S.doug)? I'm sure "200" is rhetorical, but the point - flat response - is valid. I screamed & hollered when KR announced Thru & Thru in 02-03, everyone around me sitting down for a snooze or going out for beer. NOTHING when Out of Control starts (Fenway), tho thanks to the dynamic performance more enthusiasm as it builds, but nothing like the explosive reaction w/ first notes of any warhorse. And 'the RS follow what goes on' at fan sites - what dif does it make if its reports from handlers or Mick (Charlie?) (hope not Ron) checking them out? The info (we want Mick Taylor, Christ) gets to them, sometimes, is the point...

T&A Wrote:
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> a pity. i think that's a poor excuse if that's
> their reason for not playing it again (and I don't
> happen to believe that's the real reason).

Why don't just be happy for the guy. I wish I was backstage once in my life. He did. I didn't.

sladog, I don't understand what your problem is. Stonesdoug is one of the nicest persons around. He provides us lots of information on his board. So what, if one out of a hundred posts turns out to be wrong weeks and months later. The Stones can also change their minds and play or not play a song they hadn't intented to weeks before. And what do you do? You give us nothing.

Actually for me StonesDoug i s God; he passed our (iorr:s) wish list
to the boys in the Stones; their (Shidoobees) and our wish list were topped by the same song. Thats why they played Sway.
I couldnt blame them for not playin it again with that lousy result.
...And you SURE as bleedin hell cant blame Doug.
(See; his name spelled backwards: Guod, almost "God"... )

The info doesn't always get to them if it is deleted right away, such as when I posted my petition on Shidoobee. Five minutes later it was taken down. John R---what's with the christ in brackets.
Stonedoug also said there would be no club gig in Toronto, it would be in USA.