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Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 02:49

Speaking about bands which have continued performing well past their prime, French said: "[JUDAS] PRIEST is 65 years, 70 years old, SAXON's 80 @#$%& years old. THE ROLLING STONES are 90 years old. Watching Keith [Richards] and [Ronnie Wood] trying to play guitar is like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS — it's a terrifying @#$%& experience. If THE STONES were smart, they'd hire two 25-year-old guys from Nashville who know how to play their song parts and let these two cadavers walk around on stage and @#$%& act like Johnny Depp in @#$%& 'Pirates Of The Caribbean'. They can't @#$%& play. And it bothers me they charge eight hundred dollars [for a ticket]. At least when you go to see THE EAGLES, there's 45 guys on stage, 'cause you want the [band] to sound like THE EAGLES. And when you see go see Roger Waters, there's 45 guys on stage, 'cause you wanna hear what 'The Wall' sounds like. But THE STONES insist that you watch them decompose in front of your eyes for a high ticket price. And they suck so bad.

"I get annoyed only because we work so hard to be perfect every night," he continued. "And I watched them. I've been a STONES fan, by the way, all my life and saw them at the peak of their @#$%& life — in '69, '70, '71, '72. They were arguably the greatest rock band on the planet earth. And there's a DVD, 'Ladies And Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones', which you can watch. Why are they happy sounding so bad when you've got this?

[www.blabbermouth.net]

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Spodlumt ()
Date: April 23, 2018 03:02

An opinion from somebody who wasted his life being a part of Twisted Sister?

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: April 23, 2018 03:04

"What a drag it is getting old" when Twisted Sister isn't charting or filling arenas (if they ever did).

Of course, he's entitled to his opinion and he's speaking an exaggerated version of the truth to make a point. He doesn't have to be angry. He just needs to not buy a ticket, watch the DVD, or access shows on Youtube. Then it can always be 1972 and a world without Twisted Sister.

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: April 23, 2018 03:09

A one-hit wonder from 35 years ago, whose one hit didn't even make the top 20, fronted by a singer who couldn't even sing, is going to knock the Stones.

Anything for free, and cheap, publicity.

After all, it's what Keith does whenever there's a new tour getting underway.

Why does this "Jay Jay" guy keep talking about his band like it's still in the present tense, when the article says they retired two years ago?

Okay, we get it -- rock is for young and middle-aged people, and senior citizens scare you.

Now just return to your retirement and enjoy your remaining years, so that music fans like me can forget groups like yours who made the 80s suck -- so much so that Dirty Work stands as a gem above and beyond all the Twisted Sisters of the world.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: April 23, 2018 03:40

Who?

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: dandelion1967 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 04:24

Twisted sister was a clown band. "is like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS". At least the guy is creative on jokes!

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Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:19

Ironically I was having lunch with my brother last week. A friend of ours saw Priest in Seattle last week and thought it was a great show with Saxon. My brother mentioned JJ French talking trash about them although I didn't realize he was knocking the Stones, too. I think he's recently trashed Paul Stanley, too.
I didn't even know Twisted Sister were still around!

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:31

Quote
dandelion1967
Twisted sister was a clown band. "is like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS". At least the guy is creative on jokes!

Yes and this Jay Jay French character is bonafide Bozo.
That said, he makes some valid points in his tirade.

"But THE STONES insist that you watch them decompose in front of your eyes for a high ticket price. And they suck so bad".

Lol what a dick this guy is, but that is a funny line...sounds like something Don Rickles might have said.

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Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:37

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Hairball
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dandelion1967
Twisted sister was a clown band. "is like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS". At least the guy is creative on jokes!

Yes and this Jay Jay French character is bonafide Bozo.
That said, he makes some valid points in his tirade.

"But THE STONES insist that you watch them decompose in front of your eyes for a high ticket price. And they suck so bad".

Lol what a dick this guy is, but that is a funny line...sounds like something Don Rickles might have said.
I thought some of his insults were pretty damn funny, to be honest.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:39

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DGA35
Ironically I was having lunch with my brother last week. A friend of ours saw Priest in Seattle last week and thought it was a great show with Saxon. My brother mentioned JJ French talking trash about them although I didn't realize he was knocking the Stones, too. I think he's recently trashed Paul Stanley, too.
I didn't even know Twisted Sister were still around!
Twisted Sister played their final live gigs last year...they're officially retired. I watched some live videos and I honestly thought they sounded great, although I'm not a fan. Dee Snider is in incredibly @#$%& shape for his age and he's still got his voice. The rest of the band, I really couldn't care less about.

Yeah, I saw Priest and Saxon last month...both were phenomenal. I'd never seen Saxon before and was very impressed. Biff Byford has a ton of energy and was headbanging his mane of white hair around like he was still 30. It was inspiring.

Priest were great too. Even better was Glenn Tipton came out onstage as a surprise for the encore (Metal Gods, Breaking the Law, Living After Midnight). He got a HUGE ovation from the crowd...he looked frail but very happy by the crowd response, and still played great. The songs chosen for the encore were clearly the poppier rock songs that are relatively easy to play.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-23 05:43 by keefriff99.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:51

He's wrong even though there's a hint of true there. Jay Jay at many times doesn't know when to shut up. I like Sister (not a lot, but I thought they did some good stuff and don't write them off) and agree and applaud their decision to go out "while on top." I agree with his point that other bands should do that.

But the Stones are the wrong ones to single out I think. And thats not just cause I'm a fan, but because they put on a legitimately good show. Yeah, its not the show it was in the 70s, but it hasn't been for a really long time. And then to lump them in with people like the Eagles. Nothing against the Eagles but I applaud the Stones DON'T have 45 people on stage. Its still rock n roll and its still real. I don't need 45 people trying to recreate every note on a record. The Stones, for better or for worse, go out and still try to give you a show that isn't super bloated and still sounds like a real band. And I appreciate that. There are things you could say about the Stones, but I think Jay Jay went off on the wrong point here and arguably comes off sounding dumb. If these guys can still play, they shouldn't retire. When they start losing members and sounding bad, yes then I think they should. But the Stones are neither of those things.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: April 23, 2018 05:58

YAWN...... eeeerrrrr imagine takin a road trip with Jay Jay ....

"Hey guys ... lets talk about me" .....



ROCKMAN

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: April 23, 2018 07:03

First of all; I adored that quote; it's classic; it's funny as hell and almost poetic in it's Jobian rage.
I think he might be breaking a Commandment here tho, as to coveting what his neighbor might posess,
in that other folks referenced in this amusing display,
have that 'talent' and 'ability' thing as 'artists' going for them.

However whatshisname continues to, er, ripen, with the years in surburban Long Island,
or wherever Leslie West and Felix Papparlardi and writers like Billy Joel,
who could actually play an "instrument,"
did make some residents proud;
there are these wannabe Kiss freakz; squawking horrendous,
and deadingly synthetic; well...shit.
if that's OK to say.


but an entire lasting career and catalog of shit.
so that's no little pile, to give credit where it's doo



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Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 07:35

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keefriff99
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DGA35
Ironically I was having lunch with my brother last week. A friend of ours saw Priest in Seattle last week and thought it was a great show with Saxon. My brother mentioned JJ French talking trash about them although I didn't realize he was knocking the Stones, too. I think he's recently trashed Paul Stanley, too.
I didn't even know Twisted Sister were still around!
Twisted Sister played their final live gigs last year...they're officially retired. I watched some live videos and I honestly thought they sounded great, although I'm not a fan. Dee Snider is in incredibly @#$%& shape for his age and he's still got his voice. The rest of the band, I really couldn't care less about.

Yeah, I saw Priest and Saxon last month...both were phenomenal. I'd never seen Saxon before and was very impressed. Biff Byford has a ton of energy and was headbanging his mane of white hair around like he was still 30. It was inspiring.

Priest were great too. Even better was Glenn Tipton came out onstage as a surprise for the encore (Metal Gods, Breaking the Law, Living After Midnight). He got a HUGE ovation from the crowd...he looked frail but very happy by the crowd response, and still played great. The songs chosen for the encore were clearly the poppier rock songs that are relatively easy to play.

Saw vids from Seattle where Glenn came on for the encore. He sure looked frail but the crowd went nuts! I didn't realize Saxon was still around! I was a fan of theirs in the early 80s and saw them in Vancouver summer 1983 when they were part of a triple bill with Iron Maiden and Fastway. Loved Power and the Glory album. Lots of Priest reviews I've seen online where fans have been very impressed with Saxon and many weren't familiar with them, even my friends that drove down to Seattle. Too bad bands like Saxon,Angelwitch,UFO etc. didn't get big over here in the early 80s like many of their contemporaries like Maiden did.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 23, 2018 12:41

Quote
keefriff99
Speaking about bands which have continued performing well past their prime, French said: "[JUDAS] PRIEST is 65 years, 70 years old, SAXON's 80 @#$%& years old. THE ROLLING STONES are 90 years old. Watching Keith [Richards] and [Ronnie Wood] trying to play guitar is like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS — it's a terrifying @#$%& experience. If THE STONES were smart, they'd hire two 25-year-old guys from Nashville who know how to play their song parts and let these two cadavers walk around on stage and @#$%& act like Johnny Depp in @#$%& 'Pirates Of The Caribbean'. They can't @#$%& play. And it bothers me they charge eight hundred dollars [for a ticket]. At least when you go to see THE EAGLES, there's 45 guys on stage, 'cause you want the [band] to sound like THE EAGLES. And when you see go see Roger Waters, there's 45 guys on stage, 'cause you wanna hear what 'The Wall' sounds like. But THE STONES insist that you watch them decompose in front of your eyes for a high ticket price. And they suck so bad.

"I get annoyed only because we work so hard to be perfect every night," he continued. "And I watched them. I've been a STONES fan, by the way, all my life and saw them at the peak of their @#$%& life — in '69, '70, '71, '72. They were arguably the greatest rock band on the planet earth. And there's a DVD, 'Ladies And Gentlemen: The Rolling Stones', which you can watch. Why are they happy sounding so bad when you've got this?

[www.blabbermouth.net]

Spot on. He is a hardcore fan like me, and unlike me, saw and heard them at their peak.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: shattered1978 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 12:46

I completely disagree with his opinion and their music is absolutely meaningless.

But I have to admit I like their attitude.
I saw Dee Snider solo. Man, he's almost 70 and extremely agile and positive on stage.
I like his optimism and energy, but once again, meaningless music to me.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Date: April 23, 2018 13:10

You know what, Jay Jay, I don't think they svck smiling smiley





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Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: April 23, 2018 13:48

I ONLY know of Dee Snyder .

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 23, 2018 14:14

Thanks to the fanmazing OKEJ-magazine (huuuuuuge among teens in the 80s) I do remember Jay-Jay and his Ray bans. grinning smiley Jay Jay and Dee. Thank you for two anthems that helped us teens express our anger and hatred of Swedish State TV, the moral crusade against everything American, rock videos, cable TV, horror films, porn, heavy metal etc. We’re not gonna take it. We wanna rock and we love it loud (Kiss).

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Date: April 23, 2018 14:26

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Redhotcarpet
Thanks to the fanmazing OKEJ-magazine (huuuuuuge among teens in the 80s) I do remember Jay-Jay and his Ray bans. grinning smiley Jay Jay and Dee. Thank you for two anthems that helped us teens express our anger and hatred of Swedish State TV, the moral crusade against everything American, rock videos, cable TV, horror films, porn, heavy metal etc. We’re not gonna take it. We wanna rock and we love it loud (Kiss).

There were three anthems. One of them was from the 60s, though winking smiley





[www.youtube.com]





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Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: April 23, 2018 14:30

He also does claim:

"Now, PRIEST. Look what you've got with PRIEST. K.K.'s [Downing, guitar] gone — he went to golf. And now Glenn's [Tipton, guitar] left. And it's wonderful. And now it's a cover band, essentially..."

And:

"... You guys don't even know that [LED] ZEPPELIN was deteriorating so badly that by 1975, you couldn't go to a ZEP concert without throwing up,They were so bad! You couldn't give tickets away to ZEP concerts, but if you came to see ZEBRA playing ZEPPELIN on Long Island, you heard perfect ZEPPELIN — perfect LED ZEPPELIN. If you saw RAT RACE CHOIR, you saw perfect PINK FLOYD, you saw perfect EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER..."

Oh, Jay Jay seems to be very "strict" critic... Bur he says about his band:


"TWISTED SISTER is a perfectionist band, We've played thousands of shows. Every show is perfect. Every show is the last show of our life..."

I suppose he believes that the entire music is dead since 2016, just because TS decided to retire in 2016. And all the other acts are "sucking", or turning to cover bands, or, or...

Do you tell me that we have to take seriously the particular guy, who could be the definition of the word "narcissist"? Really? Gimme a @#$%& break...

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: April 23, 2018 14:31

Quote
keefriff99
like being driven in a tour bus by José Feliciano and Ray Charles without GPS —

I admit that one made me laugh...

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: April 23, 2018 14:32

I mean "but he says", not "bur", of course...

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Date: April 23, 2018 14:36

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laertisflash
He also does claim:

"Now, PRIEST. Look what you've got with PRIEST. K.K.'s [Downing, guitar] gone — he went to golf. And now Glenn's [Tipton, guitar] left. And it's wonderful. And now it's a cover band, essentially..."

And:

"... You guys don't even know that [LED] ZEPPELIN was deteriorating so badly that by 1975, you couldn't go to a ZEP concert without throwing up,They were so bad! You couldn't give tickets away to ZEP concerts, but if you came to see ZEBRA playing ZEPPELIN on Long Island, you heard perfect ZEPPELIN — perfect LED ZEPPELIN. If you saw RAT RACE CHOIR, you saw perfect PINK FLOYD, you saw perfect EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER..."

Oh, Jay Jay seems to be very "strict" critic... Bur he says about his band:


"TWISTED SISTER is a perfectionist band, We've played thousands of shows. Every show is perfect. Every show is the last show of our life..."

I suppose he believes that the entire music is dead since 2016, just because TS decided to retire in 2016. And all the other acts are "sucking", or turning to cover bands, or, or...

Do you tell me that we have to take seriously the particular guy, who could be the definition of the word "narcissist"? Really? Gimme a @#$%& break...

He is a guitar player, and I suspect he's basing this on guitar playing, more than that of the sound of the whole band.

That's how I read it anyway..

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: April 23, 2018 14:57

"He is a guitar player, and I suspect he's basing this on guitar playing, more than that of the sound of the whole band.That's how I read it anyway..."

Dandy, as I see, he has positive (very positive!) things to say for one band. Just one. For his own band... Common, the guy is hostile and envious...

And when Jay Jay says "Led Zeppelin was deteriorating so badly that by 1975, you couldn't go to a Zeppelin without throwing up,..", I don't think he is only criticizing some parts of moments of Page's playing. Same with his "opinion" about the Stones.

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Date: April 23, 2018 15:25

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laertisflash
"He is a guitar player, and I suspect he's basing this on guitar playing, more than that of the sound of the whole band.That's how I read it anyway..."

Dandy, as I see, he has positive (very positive!) things to say for one band. Just one. For his own band... Common, the guy is hostile and envious...

And when Jay Jay says "Led Zeppelin was deteriorating so badly that by 1975, you couldn't go to a Zeppelin without throwing up,..", I don't think he is only criticizing some parts of moments of Page's playing. Same with his "opinion" about the Stones.

I don't know, of course, but that sentence was indeed exactly what lead me to believe it. Eddie Van Halen also criticised Page for his gradually poorer playing on stage (saying it sounded like a 10 year old's playing, or something).

It could be envy and jealousy, of course. It could also be that he doesn't «get» the Stones's loose style in the guitar department.

Back when he loved the Stones (allegedly 69-72), the band's sound was more mainstream (for its time) – with a more static approach to lead/rhythm playing.

However, this is just pure speculation on my part smiling smiley

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 15:31

He really goes off the rails when he says you couldn't give Zeppelin tickets away in 1975...seriously? Wasn't that really THE peak of their career?

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 23, 2018 15:32

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DandelionPowderman
Quote
Redhotcarpet
Thanks to the fanmazing OKEJ-magazine (huuuuuuge among teens in the 80s) I do remember Jay-Jay and his Ray bans. grinning smiley Jay Jay and Dee. Thank you for two anthems that helped us teens express our anger and hatred of Swedish State TV, the moral crusade against everything American, rock videos, cable TV, horror films, porn, heavy metal etc. We’re not gonna take it. We wanna rock and we love it loud (Kiss).

There were three anthems. One of them was from the 60s, though winking smiley





[www.youtube.com]





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Haha! Thanks Dandie thumbs up

And yes of course TS is a freaking joke and yes The Stones can play but yes they were f-ing awesome in 1972-73 (1969-1973).

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Date: April 23, 2018 15:42

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Redhotcarpet
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Redhotcarpet
Thanks to the fanmazing OKEJ-magazine (huuuuuuge among teens in the 80s) I do remember Jay-Jay and his Ray bans. grinning smiley Jay Jay and Dee. Thank you for two anthems that helped us teens express our anger and hatred of Swedish State TV, the moral crusade against everything American, rock videos, cable TV, horror films, porn, heavy metal etc. We’re not gonna take it. We wanna rock and we love it loud (Kiss).

There were three anthems. One of them was from the 60s, though winking smiley





[www.youtube.com]





[www.youtube.com]

Haha! Thanks Dandie thumbs up

And yes of course TS is a freaking joke and yes The Stones can play but yes they were f-ing awesome in 1972-73 (1969-1973).

Of course they were smiling smiley

Re: Jay Jay French (Twisted Sister) goes ballistic on the Stones
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: April 23, 2018 15:54

I saw Zeppelin in Feb 1975 at MSG and did not throw upsmoking smiley

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