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24FPS
'Black Men Can't Play Bass' - how I managed to be ten times less interesting than the great stone face, Bill Wyman.

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rebelhipi
Eh, i think Darryl should be promoted to a official member like Ronnie was in the 90s
He deserves it, his playing has improved the band if you ask me.

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Rockman
Gimmie Waddy's first .. the guys got the wit and da yarns ....
Imagine the tales from Wino days or would that be daze .....

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keefriff99
I bet he had to sign a major NDA with the Stones camp prior to taking the job. I doubt he'd legally be allowed to divulge any juicy anecdotes.

Speaking of Darryl...is he married? Never heard anything about his private life before.

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I bet he had to sign a major NDA with the Stones camp prior to taking the job. I doubt he'd legally be allowed to divulge any juicy anecdotes.

Speaking of Darryl...is he married? Never heard anything about his private life before.

That might prevent gossip-type stuff, but he could still say interesting things.[/quote

99% of the 'interesting' stuff, including the music, happened before Darryl came along. Bill's Mandy Smith problem was the last big scandal. At least Ronnie's Russian waitress was of legal age, and Mick impregnating another really young woman in some far flung corner of the world is barely news anymore. Except for Mick, it's been mostly health scares.

Thank you MAINDEFENDER for getting the joke. I've never held Darryl's race against him. In fact I find it even more ironic that little Bill was funkier. Bill didn't provide a stable groove? Ah, ha, ha, ha.....

Remember in the late 70s when Bill was thinking of quitting then? And Keith said something like, "Great. We'll get somebody like Busta Cherry Jones and have a funky bass player." He never did get his Busta. I wonder if they even auditioned him? (He passed away in 1995). As for Darryl becoming a full time member, that should go to Chuck Leavell, who's been with them since the early 80s, before Darryl. I don't care for the 'Midnight Tinkler' myself, but he has manned his post longer.

If someone could explain to me what is so great, or even above average with Darryl's playing, I wouldn't be so harsh. I just don't hear where it adds anything. I love the 'Blue & Lonesome' album, but I just ignore the bass, as I have to on most of the music live and studio from '94 onward. Do a straight up comparison of the 'Blue & Lonesome' recording next to the recording of Bill backing Junior Wells, Buddy Guy & Muddy Waters at the '74 Montreaux Festival. Go ahead, I'll wait.

If there are big Darryl Jones fans out there, recommend some great jazz recording he was on with Miles or whomever. Sincerely. Because I'm thinking that Charlie okayed him because of his jazz chops, not his rock or blues chops, which I still haven't heard.

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I bet he had to sign a major NDA with the Stones camp prior to taking the job. I doubt he'd legally be allowed to divulge any juicy anecdotes.

Speaking of Darryl...is he married? Never heard anything about his private life before.

That might prevent gossip-type stuff, but he could still say interesting things.[/quote

99% of the 'interesting' stuff, including the music, happened before Darryl came along. Bill's Mandy Smith problem was the last big scandal. At least Ronnie's Russian waitress was of legal age, and Mick impregnating another really young woman in some far flung corner of the world is barely news anymore. Except for Mick, it's been mostly health scares.

Thank you MAINDEFENDER for getting the joke. I've never held Darryl's race against him. In fact I find it even more ironic that little Bill was funkier. Bill didn't provide a stable groove? Ah, ha, ha, ha.....

Remember in the late 70s when Bill was thinking of quitting then? And Keith said something like, "Great. We'll get somebody like Busta Cherry Jones and have a funky bass player." He never did get his Busta. I wonder if they even auditioned him? (He passed away in 1995). As for Darryl becoming a full time member, that should go to Chuck Leavell, who's been with them since the early 80s, before Darryl. I don't care for the 'Midnight Tinkler' myself, but he has manned his post longer.

If someone could explain to me what is so great, or even above average with Darryl's playing, I wouldn't be so harsh. I just don't hear where it adds anything. I love the 'Blue & Lonesome' album, but I just ignore the bass, as I have to on most of the music live and studio from '94 onward. Do a straight up comparison of the 'Blue & Lonesome' recording next to the recording of Bill backing Junior Wells, Buddy Guy & Muddy Waters at the '74 Montreaux Festival. Go ahead, I'll wait.

If there are big Darryl Jones fans out there, recommend some great jazz recording he was on with Miles or whomever. Sincerely. Because I'm thinking that Charlie okayed him because of his jazz chops, not his rock or blues chops, which I still haven't heard.

if I may, 24FPS, Darryl's contribution is as much the kind of person he is, as it is musical. Being a highly skilled pro bassist isnt really what got him the gig..

I think they just generally liked him. He plays in the pocket, and so provides that strength with Charlie.

You havent been able to see any value in his playing, because you admire Bill so.. and I understand and respect that.

I recently went through a re-appreciation of Bill's playing, which Ive always loved anyway. I think Keith is a really good bass player too, but thats another story...

Darryl's value is in his consistency and his loyalty, imo.. and give him props for not trying to imitate Bill.. that could never be done.

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I bet he had to sign a major NDA with the Stones camp prior to taking the job. I doubt he'd legally be allowed to divulge any juicy anecdotes.

Speaking of Darryl...is he married? Never heard anything about his private life before.

That might prevent gossip-type stuff, but he could still say interesting things.

99% of the 'interesting' stuff, including the music, happened before Darryl came along. Bill's Mandy Smith problem was the last big scandal. At least Ronnie's Russian waitress was of legal age, and Mick impregnating another really young woman in some far flung corner of the world is barely news anymore. Except for Mick, it's been mostly health scares.

Thank you MAINDEFENDER for getting the joke. I've never held Darryl's race against him. In fact I find it even more ironic that little Bill was funkier. Bill didn't provide a stable groove? Ah, ha, ha, ha.....

Remember in the late 70s when Bill was thinking of quitting then? And Keith said something like, "Great. We'll get somebody like Busta Cherry Jones and have a funky bass player." He never did get his Busta. I wonder if they even auditioned him? (He passed away in 1995). As for Darryl becoming a full time member, that should go to Chuck Leavell, who's been with them since the early 80s, before Darryl. I don't care for the 'Midnight Tinkler' myself, but he has manned his post longer.

If someone could explain to me what is so great, or even above average with Darryl's playing, I wouldn't be so harsh. I just don't hear where it adds anything. I love the 'Blue & Lonesome' album, but I just ignore the bass, as I have to on most of the music live and studio from '94 onward. Do a straight up comparison of the 'Blue & Lonesome' recording next to the recording of Bill backing Junior Wells, Buddy Guy & Muddy Waters at the '74 Montreaux Festival. Go ahead, I'll wait.

If there are big Darryl Jones fans out there, recommend some great jazz recording he was on with Miles or whomever. Sincerely. Because I'm thinking that Charlie okayed him because of his jazz chops, not his rock or blues chops, which I still haven't heard.

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Bjornulf should definitely write a book. I’ve stressed that many times over the years.

Still we need Waddy’s and Darryl’s. And Lisa.

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duke richardson
if I may, 24FPS, Darryl's contribution is as much the kind of person he is, as it is musical. Being a highly skilled pro bassist isnt really what got him the gig..

I think they just generally liked him. He plays in the pocket, and so provides that strength with Charlie.

You havent been able to see any value in his playing, because you admire Bill so.. and I understand and respect that.

I recently went through a re-appreciation of Bill's playing, which Ive always loved anyway. I think Keith is a really good bass player too, but thats another story...

Darryl's value is in his consistency and his loyalty, imo.. and give him props for not trying to imitate Bill.. that could never be done.

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24FPS
Is it really a good thing that Darryl doesn't imitate Bill's bass lines? They are an integral part of those songs, as iconic as Keith's riffs. Since Darryl doesn't add anything of note to the Stones sound, and is really just a hired gun, shouldn't he be trying to replicate the sound as closely as possible? That's how it is in most Heritage Bands like the Stones. It's vexing to listen to because I keep thinking, 'The note goes here! Just anchor a freakin' note!' It's almost a repudiation of what Bill created for those songs.

It has become increasingly clear that this is an unwinnable battle. The Stones were always a chemistry band. The whole was always must greater than the individual parts. That's why I think even Mick, or Keith, have not been that successful as solo artists. It's also why successful Stones covers are rare, as it was the very sound created by five individuals that people crave. That chain continued through Brian, Mick Taylor & on through Ronnie Wood. It was finally broken with the little thought that went into Bill's replacement musically. Maybe they never 'got' Bill either.

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duke richardson
>>He has detracted to the overall sound rather than added something<<

hmmm

i guess Mick, Keith, Ronnie, and Charlie especially, aren't noticing that.

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TheBlockbuster
Darryl Jones IS the Stones nowadays. Wihtout him the Stones sound would have fallen apart the last decade. I think we all have enjoyed countless hours of Stones music enriched by his talent. Give him some respect.