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Flat Transfers of SHM & SA-CDs incorrect tempo
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: June 20, 2017 18:56

Received my SHM CDs of Exile and Sticky and just played them. I was really shocked about the tempo being slightly lower. Not much so that the average lister would noticed but I have the absolute pitch (not always a good thing) and was quite shocked when hearing the beginning of rocks off. Then I thought I just might have a bad day, so I compared the waveforms of the 2011 master and the 1990 CBS master in Cubase. I was right, the 2011 flat transfer is slower (the files are longer).
Same with Sticky.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-06-20 18:58 by StonedRambler.

Re: Flat Transfers of SHM & SA-CDs incorrect tempo
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: June 20, 2017 21:09

Can you compare with the Virgin CDs too (1994 or 95) or the UICY-CDs.

All I know Beggars & Let it Bleed pre 2002 CDs/LPs were too slow.

I don't have the absolute pitch - but regarding Beggars Banquet I can hear the difference. As for Hyde Park DVD Pal/NTSC.

How much is the difference?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-06-20 21:14 by glimmertwin1.

Re: Flat Transfers of SHM & SA-CDs incorrect tempo
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: June 20, 2017 23:42

Do not own the Virgin of Exile but also the 2010 Remaster which is the same pitch as the CBS CD.
From Sticky Fingers I own the Virgin and the 2009 Remaster.
The SA CDs from Exile and Sticky and both to the same amount slower. It's really not much, just a few Hz.
As for LIB/Beggars Banquet it was much much worse, so they had a completely different pitch.

Re: Flat Transfers of SHM & SA-CDs incorrect tempo
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: June 21, 2017 03:04

Could it be that the flat transfers have actually the correct pitch?

Re: Flat Transfers of SHM & SA-CDs incorrect tempo
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: June 21, 2017 07:54

Have just compared to listening examples at E-onkyo of Tattoo You snd GHS and they are also slower and lower tuned than 440Hz. Guess they not tuned all their guitars at 436Hz or so, so more probably the Flat Transfers are slower



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