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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Testify ()
Date: May 20, 2017 03:25

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HMS
This would be the most exciting release since Shine A Light and L.A. Friday. The Fonda gig was one of the most important Stones-gigs ever, imo. They proved that it is possible to play the album live in all it´s greatness & glory without any Taylor-contribution. A historic event and one the latter-day-Stones most shining hours.
thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: May 20, 2017 12:42

Great news!

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: ElGeordie ()
Date: May 20, 2017 17:54

I just hope the cameras concentrate on the band on stage and not the glitterati in the audience. . .

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 20, 2017 18:05

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ElGeordie

I just hope the cameras concentrate on the band on stage and not the glitterati in the audience. . .

'Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda Theatre' was directed by Paul Dugdale - therefore the Camera work should be similar to 'Sweet Summer Sun', 'Havana Moon' or 'Olé Olé Olé!' ....

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: bleedingman ()
Date: May 20, 2017 19:35

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Irix
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ElGeordie

I just hope the cameras concentrate on the band on stage and not the glitterati in the audience. . .

'Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda Theatre' was directed by Paul Dugdale - therefore the Camera work should be similar to 'Sweet Summer Sun', 'Havana Moon' or 'Olé Olé Olé!' ....

Sorry to hear. The constant cuts from band member to audience, etc. give me a headache.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: leteyer ()
Date: May 20, 2017 20:15

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powerage78
Moonlight Mile poor version, but the studio one is so perfect...
No Mick Taylor and Jim Price, no string arrangement, that's a lot...

Spot on....nothing else to say

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 20, 2017 20:25

Just listen the show again.
Sway, Moonlight Mile and CYHMK with the limited Ronnie playing.
Nothing magic anymore.
I don't like him at all on this kind of songs.
Personnal tastes.
Overdubs required. drinking smiley

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: HMS ()
Date: May 20, 2017 20:59

Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: May 20, 2017 21:05

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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

+1

(the usual boring Mick Taylor soap opera)



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 20, 2017 21:48

Question of tastes.
Nothing more.

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 20, 2017 22:41

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1962
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

+1

(the usual boring Mick Taylor soap opera)

-1

Both parties greatly exaggarating as usual. Ronnie does not *quite* fit for the Sticky Fingers material in the same way that Taylor would not *quite* fit for playing on Some Girls and later material live. It's not that "not quite fitting" means that they're actually playing bad, it's just that they don't (or would not in Taylor's case) add anything substantial that propels the studio takes into new highs. Nobody asked for Supertramp-like exact copies of the studio recordings, btw.

I mean, they had Taylor on board again for a couple of years so playing the entire Sticky Fingers without him is a missed opportunity - no more, no less. Then again, when they had him on board, his playing did not always convince me, to be honest.

That said, I like the Honda performance a lot.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: May 20, 2017 22:52

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retired_dog
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1962
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

+1

(the usual boring Mick Taylor soap opera)

-1

Both parties greatly exaggarating as usual. Ronnie does not *quite* fit for the Sticky Fingers material in the same way that Taylor would not *quite* fit for playing on Some Girls and later material live. It's not that "not quite fitting" means that they're actually playing bad, it's just that they don't (or would not in Taylor's case) add anything substantial that propels the studio takes into new highs. Nobody asked for Supertramp-like exact copies of the studio recordings, btw.

I mean, they had Taylor on board again for a couple of years so playing the entire Sticky Fingers without him is a missed opportunity - no more, no less. Then again, when they had him on board, his playing did not always convince me, to be honest.

That said, I like the Honda performance a lot.

Regardless of the endless Taylor vs. Wood debate, SFL sounds great. If all band members weren't in top form, that could not be said. Therefore, all else aside, Woody does a great job on this album. Otherwise we'd all be saying how crappy it is. We're not. It isn't. Would it have been better with Taylor? We'll never know so why ask? Woody's been in the second guitar slot since 1975 and he does his job well.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 20, 2017 23:33

Your opinion.
Not mine.
After Jones and Taylor, Stones, the greatest, deserved a better guitarist than Wood.
Just simple as that.
I love this band... more less since some years...

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: HMS ()
Date: May 20, 2017 23:55

After Mick Taylor left the band, the Stones changed their musical direction. There was no room for delicate soloing anymore. So I never missed Taylor.

Recent tours showed a sober and focused Ron Wood playing better than before.
On the other hand... regarding MT´s guest spots... You don´t have to be Mick Taylor to play on MR, really. And listening to his very few renditions of CYHMK and Sway one might think Taylor is no longer the player he once used to be... So I doubt he would have lifted the live version of SF into incredible heights.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: May 20, 2017 23:58

Yes, he probably wouldn't. In his prime he could, but a rusty one probably couldn't. In fairness to Wood, he's been playing these songs for years so I get how he feels more comfortable with them now. Having said that, as a Taylor fan I would love to hear the man who wrote those solos play them. Even if they aren't as good or focused as Wood's may be, they'll at least be different. Despite Wood's great playing, there's pretty much already great official versions of him doing every song on the album.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:23

I don't forget Ron playing between 1998 and 2012...
Irregular and inconsistent.

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:23

The Sticky Fingers show is actually better in theory than execution.

They should have been doing stuff like this when they were younger.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:34

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powerage78
I don't forget Ron playing between 1998 and 2012...
Irregular and inconsistent.

Unlike me... I forgot most of his playing during the time period you mentioned because it was virtually not Stones-worthy. Different story since 2012, though.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:35

And you think it's normal for a band like the Stones ???

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:35

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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 21, 2017 00:50

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powerage78
And you think it's normal for a band like the Stones ???

Stones are different... it's not all about music... Ron fits the image, looks like a Stone, behaves like a Stone...things like these are tremendously important for a lot of fans. His best playing with the band happened between 1975 and 1982. Since then, it's been a mixed bag, at least until 2012.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 21, 2017 02:13

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retired_dog



Stones are different... it's not all about music... Ron fits the image, looks like a Stone, behaves like a Stone...things like these are tremendously important for a lot of fans.

That's true. I wonder why it is important. Music comes first.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: May 21, 2017 02:35

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TheflyingDutchman
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retired_dog



Stones are different... it's not all about music... Ron fits the image, looks like a Stone, behaves like a Stone...things like these are tremendously important for a lot of fans.

That's true. I wonder why it is important. Music comes first.

The answer to that is easy

Sex sells

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 21, 2017 02:36

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Cristiano Radtke
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 21, 2017 02:41

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HMS
After Mick Taylor left the band, the Stones changed their musical direction. There was no room for delicate soloing anymore. So I never missed Taylor.

Recent tours showed a sober and focused Ron Wood playing better than before.
On the other hand... regarding MT´s guest spots... You don´t have to be Mick Taylor to play on MR, really. And listening to his very few renditions of CYHMK and Sway one might think Taylor is no longer the player he once used to be... So I doubt he would have lifted the live version of SF into incredible heights.

I doubt Taylor would have been too keen on playing the Stones disco material.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: May 21, 2017 02:55

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boogaloojef
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Cristiano Radtke
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

Yes, but I'd love to see the interviews with the fans on the bonus material. We have at least two IORR users that were interviewed for that.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 21, 2017 04:15

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Cristiano Radtke
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boogaloojef
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Cristiano Radtke
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

Yes, but I'd love to see the interviews with the fans on the bonus material. We have at least two IORR users that were interviewed for that.

A nice memory for them, but what have they've got to say that is of any interest for the general public? The same could be said about these "celebrities" interviews. Usually lots of words, but no interesting content.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: May 21, 2017 04:19

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retired_dog
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Cristiano Radtke
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boogaloojef
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Cristiano Radtke
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

Yes, but I'd love to see the interviews with the fans on the bonus material. We have at least two IORR users that were interviewed for that.

A nice memory for them, but what have they've got to say that is of any interest for the general public? The same could be said about these "celebrities" interviews. Usually lots of words, but no interesting content.

Perhaps they have better stories to tell than the "celebrities" that appear on the "Stones in Exile" doc, for instance. winking smiley

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 21, 2017 04:31

Perhaps they have better stories to tell than the "celebrities" that appear on the "Stones in Exile" doc, for instance.


YEAH !!! .....even I could tell better Stones stories than those guys ...

Well the Don was stuff in Exile bonus was good ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: May 21, 2017 04:41

Let's hear'em Rockeeee!

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