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The Beatles made a rock album with SGTPepper IMO in 1967
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-17 19:53 by 1962.
Rock and roll, best embodied by The Rolling Stones - has an element of swing to it. That's the "roll." A band like The Who, as recently admitted by Roger Daltrey - does not have the "roll," the swing; they are a straight "rock band." Led Zep was a rock band. The Faces were a rock and roll band. Chuck Berry was rock and roll.
"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."
Most of us would accept this as true, but in their prime, baby - for me, most def the greatest r&r band in the world!
"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."
Weird. When I think of DIRTY WORK the Stones were a shit band.
That mistake aside, they are a rock'n'roll band. Bands like The Cult or AC/DC or Led Zeppelin or Pearl Jam or Soundgarden are rock bands (or possibly hard rock bands). Not a lot of roll to them like there is with the Stones (and Beatles and Who and The Black Crowes, of course).
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-20 08:54 by Socrates1.
True about the 50s when you think about 'Rock n Roll' but then again the Beatles in 1964 covered it in recording and performed it live many times between the late 50s and early 60s. And there's all the similar stuff coming from the Stones, the Kinks, the Who, the Byrds, and many other groups in the same time period of the early 1960s. So it's hard to associate 'Rock n Roll' to just the 1950s.
Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. Anyway, it's just a phrase.
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Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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2000 LYFH
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Date: December 16, 2016 19:49
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latebloomer
They do it all.
This says it all...
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
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Date: December 16, 2016 20:15
They have to be a Rock and Roll band else they would not be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
MKjan
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Date: December 16, 2016 20:15
They are the greatest rock'n'ROLL band,and the
greatest blues band, No wonder they were called a
"way of life" back then. Andrew got that right.
greatest blues band, No wonder they were called a
"way of life" back then. Andrew got that right.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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keefriff99
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Date: December 16, 2016 21:04
Oh, c'mon...I hate when people over-analyze subgenres. How can you say that rock'n'roll ceased to exist in the '60s and became "rock"? Says who?Quote
Father Ted
I was reading a thread asking if The Faces were the 2nd best rock n roll band. It made me wonder how folks define rock n roll from rock music? Is there a difference and how could the labels be defined. I always thought of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee as classic rock n roll and of course the Stones. What do others think?
Rock 'n roll is mid 20th century artists, who had popularity peak in the mid/late 1950s, like the ones you mention. There's a wide range of styles and influences so I wouldn't say there is a conclusive "rock n roll sound". Rock n roll evolved into rock by the early/mid 60s. The Stones and The Faces are not rock n roll bands although they're deeply influenced by those bands.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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Koen
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Date: December 16, 2016 21:16
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DandelionPowderman
I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit
Mick Jagger, 21 July 1962
That was just an oportunistic statement, as the clubs didn't like rock'n'roll bands at the time. hence they had to bill themselves as r&b
Age old question
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
PhillyFAN
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Date: December 17, 2016 18:20
It seems there really is no definitive answer to when or why Rock n Roll became Rock music. Not only speaking of the Stones but in general. Maybe it really doesn't matter but just a meandering thought that crosses my mind now and then.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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1962
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Date: December 17, 2016 19:51
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PhillyFAN
It seems there really is no definitive answer to when or why Rock n Roll became Rock music. Not only speaking of the Stones but in general. Maybe it really doesn't matter but just a meandering thought that crosses my mind now and then.
The Beatles made a rock album with SGTPepper IMO in 1967
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-17 19:53 by 1962.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Librarian
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Date: December 17, 2016 20:07
As Keith said:
Everyone talks about rock these days; the problem is they forget about the roll.
Everyone talks about rock these days; the problem is they forget about the roll.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Green Lady
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Date: December 17, 2016 21:05
When they began, they wanted to be the best blues band in London, and the blues purists told Keith they didn't want any of that rock'n'roll shit around here, thank you very much.
But the Stones evolved. They've been an r&b combo, a pop group, a country band and a rock'n'roll band, among other things - but the one thing they have never played, thank goodness, is Rock without the Roll.
But the Stones evolved. They've been an r&b combo, a pop group, a country band and a rock'n'roll band, among other things - but the one thing they have never played, thank goodness, is Rock without the Roll.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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1962
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Date: December 17, 2016 21:41
"...but the one thing they have never played, thank goodness, is Rock without the Roll."
Agree!
Agree!
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
HonkeyTonkFlash
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Date: December 18, 2016 04:04
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PhillyFAN
I was reading a thread asking if The Faces were the 2nd best rock n roll band. It made me wonder how folks define rock n roll from rock music? Is there a difference and how could the labels be defined. I always thought of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee as classic rock n roll and of course the Stones. What do others think?
Rock and roll, best embodied by The Rolling Stones - has an element of swing to it. That's the "roll." A band like The Who, as recently admitted by Roger Daltrey - does not have the "roll," the swing; they are a straight "rock band." Led Zep was a rock band. The Faces were a rock and roll band. Chuck Berry was rock and roll.
"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
stonehearted
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Date: December 18, 2016 04:14
Since no one has wondered what the Stones themselves have had to say on the subject, this lyric ought to sum things up:
"Well now, what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock n' roll band?"
"Well now, what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock n' roll band?"
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Quique-stone
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Date: December 18, 2016 04:57
They are a band...just my favourite band!
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Monsoon Ragoon
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Date: December 18, 2016 15:27
At the moment they're the best Stones Tribute band, sorry.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
runrudolph
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Date: December 18, 2016 16:37
Its all about the Roll baby, all about the Roll(Keef quote).
jeroen
jeroen
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
HonkeyTonkFlash
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Date: December 18, 2016 18:18
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Monsoon Ragoon
At the moment they're the best Stones Tribute band, sorry.
Most of us would accept this as true, but in their prime, baby - for me, most def the greatest r&r band in the world!
"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:35
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Rocky Dijon
Bob Dylan claims they've been a funk band since VOODOO LOUNGE. As for me, I like to think of them strictly as a rock 'n' roll band, but then HMS reminds me of DIRTY WORK and I think, no, they were a rock band, too.
Weird. When I think of DIRTY WORK the Stones were a shit band.
That mistake aside, they are a rock'n'roll band. Bands like The Cult or AC/DC or Led Zeppelin or Pearl Jam or Soundgarden are rock bands (or possibly hard rock bands). Not a lot of roll to them like there is with the Stones (and Beatles and Who and The Black Crowes, of course).
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Socrates1
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:44
I haven't even looked at this thread. Of course the Stones are a Rock & Roll band. They're the Rock & Roll band.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Tonstone
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:46
'Some people like to Rock some people like to Roll,let's have a party'.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Socrates1
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:49
Look in the dictionary under "Rock 'n' Roll band" and there's a picture of the Stones.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
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GasLightStreet
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:51
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Socrates1
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Date: December 18, 2016 21:55
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: December 19, 2016 02:20
Both and more,........... Pop, Country, Blues...........but combined you can call them A Rock & Roll Band................
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Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: December 19, 2016 02:25
Look in the dictionary under "Rock 'n' Roll band" and there's a picture of the Stones.
Funny you should say that for when ever I check out a new dictionary I always
check what they have down for the definition of rock n roll .... hhhaaaa
ROCKMAN
Funny you should say that for when ever I check out a new dictionary I always
check what they have down for the definition of rock n roll .... hhhaaaa
ROCKMAN
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Socrates1
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Date: December 19, 2016 05:05
Webster's pocket dictionary: rock'-and-roll' n. popular music with a strong rhythm
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-20 08:53 by Socrates1.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-20 08:53 by Socrates1.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
Socrates1
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Date: December 19, 2016 05:17
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-20 08:54 by Socrates1.
Re: Are the Stones a Rock n Roll band or a rock band?
Posted by:
nightskyman
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Date: December 19, 2016 15:43
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PhillyFAN
I was reading a thread asking if The Faces were the 2nd best rock n roll band. It made me wonder how folks define rock n roll from rock music? Is there a difference and how could the labels be defined. I always thought of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee as classic rock n roll and of course the Stones. What do others think?
True about the 50s when you think about 'Rock n Roll' but then again the Beatles in 1964 covered it in recording and performed it live many times between the late 50s and early 60s. And there's all the similar stuff coming from the Stones, the Kinks, the Who, the Byrds, and many other groups in the same time period of the early 1960s. So it's hard to associate 'Rock n Roll' to just the 1950s.
Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. Anyway, it's just a phrase.
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