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I don't think Mick was ever in love with the music like Keith. Or at least not to nearly the same degree

I agree with you. He was obviously very interested in it at a certain time in his life, which coincided with the band's growing popularity, but it wasn't the same sort of all-consuming passion it seems to be with Keith. Mick said in so many words around the time Exile came out that he was tired of rock and roll and wanted to do something else.

Keef's a musician's musician i.e. his destiny was to be a cult figure among rock specialists.
Mick was a mainstream musician, always. And his flair for what'll "work" with the audience is unparalleled.

I once eavesdropped a conversation between a bunch of Stones and a record engineer who "did" the SG sessions. He recalled how Jagger directed the final edit of "Miss You". "Cut this!" "Two bars of that" etc etc.
20+ years later the engineer was still in awe.

The sentence in bold emerges as strange in my eyes. From a certain point in time Keith seems chiefly to have desired to be innovative as to creating music within a developed concept over time for what Rolling Stones music should comprise. Mick has been the one at certain occasions to want to stretch and expand that concept.(However, the reception to UNDERCOVER I understand to have been a negative incentive for Mick.)

Edit: Correction of a printing error.



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Good Points.

Most notably...me not recognizing the pre-1969 performances.

However...they hadn't toured for 3 years when they did the 1969 tour...

And quite honestly...as well documented...the 1969 Tour was the stamp or the foundation to modern touring...there was nothing like it before.

So I wasn't talking about Mick singing for 15 - 20 minutes and getting bummed rush on the stage...

I was talking about Mick taking on a character for an extended modern tour...and I think 1972 shines as his best.

And thanks to the Stones for releasing Texas 1978...because he worethe Punk Persona to a tea...second place for me.

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Please.. what a bother..

Mick Jagger is the best frontman in the world. He was the best in the 70s, 80, 90s and he stil is..

And of course he plays a role, every entertainer does.

I don't necessarily agree and I think RG said it best...." Every entertainer does", meaning they all become a different version of themselves. All of those tours you listed reflect different times and Mick mirrors those times and reflects that image back at us, his audience. No Security and on to the recent tours may be a little less dramatic, but Mick is still on stage to PERFORM, and to him that means taking on the " larger than life Mick persona" but it is still the REAL MICK!
If you saw " Being Mick" he was STILL performing but perhaps a bit less. We ALL do that when we meet new people. We show the face we want to reveal in order to be pleasing. Not complicated really. I know what you mean about the '75 and '78 tours being more theatrical though.

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I don't necessarily agree and I think RG said it best...." Every entertainer does", meaning they all become a different version of themselves. All of those tours you listed reflect different times and Mick mirrors those times and reflects that image back at us, his audience. No Security and on to the recent tours may be a little less dramatic, but Mick is still on stage to PERFORM, and to him that means taking on the " larger than life Mick persona" but it is still the REAL MICK!
If you saw " Being Mick" he was STILL performing but perhaps a bit less. We ALL do that when we meet new people. We show the face we want to reveal in order to be pleasing. Not complicated really. I know what you mean about the '75 and '78 tours being more theatrical though.

Amen!

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I'd argue that 1978 was the best performing Jagger, as well as the best on-stage Stones.

absolutely, with garden state 78 being the greatest jagger show ever, its all about the attitude.