Oh and well done Green Lady and all the other overnight solvers!
[confetti of victory all around!]

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with sssoul
Just so it's on the page:

Candour: It’s a bloody shame Bill married Mandy; nursery romeo knotted too soon

No buts about it, Green Lady was very warm . . . just needs to bear down

white text hints:

1. No buts (about it), there's only one song that makes sense for this two line anagram.
2. Stones original
3. Beggars Belief
4. No dogs or horses this time, but . . .
4. Has that "Rick, Don Joy" percussion



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All right all right,

[no But] you don't really miss your mother
Don't look so scared, I'm not no mad-brained bear

I haven't counted the letters but it's got a y, a k, 4 ds - I must be close

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with sssoul
All right all right,

[no But] you don't really miss your mother
Don't look so scared, I'm not no mad-brained bear

I haven't counted the letters but it's got a y, a k, 4 ds - I must be close

Alright, alright is right. Nice work!!

Whee :E

Excellent work. Another clue from myself, or is someone else next in line?

.....

Olly.

Go ahead, Olly! [flexing the scrambled eggs I got for brains]

Take the home for several years of both a writer and a politician with alliterative names, names that show resolution and a confirmation of existence. Add a verb associated with one in a Stones song who is characterised by an unverified past.

This gives you the context of something in the possession of one who has undergone an action that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion upon it's completion.


Which lyric am I?

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Wow.

Olly, my head hurts just from reading that...

Well, I've learned that William Wordsworth (alliterative writer) was born in a place called Cockermouth.
Olly's puzzles are always so educational!

I don't think it's necessarily Wordsworth, but Will does work as a name that indicates resolution.
Now for the confirmation of existence ... hm ...



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The unverified past sounds like Ruby Tuesday.

Olly,

Clarifying questions:

Take the home for several years of both a writer and a politician with alliterative names, names that show resolution and a confirmation of existence.

1. So, it's the name of the home that we're looking for, not the names of the writer or politician (although their names will help us identify the home)?
2. The names could be the first or last names of the writer & politician?
2b. One name shows resolution and one name confirms existence or they both do both things?
3. The writer and politician didn't live there at the same time, is that fair?
4. Is there a geographic boundary you'd like to place on the home? I'm assuming it's the UK, but . . . it could be anywhere, yes?



Add a verb associated with one in a Stones song who is characterised by an unverified past. By "who" are you speaking of the verb in the song or the song itself? I'm assuming it's the song?

This gives you the context of something in the possession of one who has undergone an action that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion upon it's completion.

What he said

Very fine questions, camper88!

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camper88
Add a verb associated with one in a Stones song who is characterised by an unverified past.
By "who" are you speaking of the verb in the song or the song itself? I'm assuming it's the song?

I think "who" refers to the "one in a song". For example, a verb associated with the character Ruby Tuesday.

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an action that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion upon it's completion.

Struggling with one of Olly's puzzles?

According to Wikipedia, Wordsworth lived in Lancashire and Somerset for a time. Any of you Brits know any famous existence-confirming and alliteratively-named politicians from those places?

"I hope you didn't record any of this""No I didn't"

I will do what I can to clarify, being careful lest I give too much away:

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Olly,

Clarifying questions:

Take the home for several years of both a writer and a politician with alliterative names, names that show resolution and a confirmation of existence.


1. So, it's the name of the home that we're looking for, not the names of the writer or politician (although their names will help us identify the home)?

Yes, you are looking for the name of the home. It is the names of the writer and the politician that are both alliterative and both show resolution and a confirmation of existence.


2. The names could be the first or last names of the writer & politician?

Both the names are alliterative, and contain a forename and a surname. The names will simply help you to identify the home. The name of the home is what matters.


2b. One name shows resolution and one name confirms existence or they both do both things?

The names of both people do both things.


3. The writer and politician didn't live there at the same time, is that fair?

There was some overlap.


4. Is there a geographic boundary you'd like to place on the home? I'm assuming it's the UK, but . . . it could be anywhere, yes?

Go on then: it's in the UK.


Add a verb associated with one in a Stones song who is characterised by an unverified past. By "who" are you speaking of the verb in the song or the song itself? I'm assuming it's the song?

I am speaking of a person in a Stones song.

.....

Olly.

Well... Will Wordsworth and Will Wilberforce both attended St. John's College in Cambridge in 1787... but I only know of Play With Fire mentioning St. John's, and I can't get that to work... back to the drawing board

"I hope you didn't record any of this""No I didn't"

Ahhhh: Will + I Am = resolution and confirmation of existence.
So until further notice we're looking for two William Ws.
Unless of course one of them has William(s) as a surname ...

Wordsworth also resided at Dove COttage at Grasmere in the Lake District...this cottage gets thousands of tourists a year through its tiny door. Alas, I can;t see it helping us with this clue though!

I suppose you could do say that the line of Ruby Tuesday "She would never say where she came from" and say would = wood, but, in Play with Fire, that would mean

"Owns a block in St. John's wood"

But... how does owning a block make you fall backwards in exhaustion? Unless you had to lift it and it was heavy??

Olly, this is totally wrong, right? right?

"I hope you didn't record any of this""No I didn't"

I knew she would meet her connection
At her feet was her footloose man

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camper88
I knew she would meet her connection
At her feet was her footloose man

How do you figure?

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camper88
I knew she would meet her connection
At her feet was her footloose man

How do you figure?

I've really no idea.

I'm not even sure that W + W make sense regarding St. John's as the location in the song is a London neighborhood and for the Ws it's a college--not a residence.

But if it were based on St. John's Wood and connects with She would never say where she came from, and would's the auxiliary verb to apply then in meeting her connection she may supply a footloose (carefree) man with a dose that makes him want to lie down and sleep (at her feet).

But I'm totally in the dark, as Olly will likely soon tell us.

Olly's are too difficult (for me)

But I am ready with another easier clue...



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This gives you the context of something in the possession of one who has undergone an action that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion upon it's completion.

I don't think camper88 can be right (or me, probably) because the "exhaustion" is first-person and is being inflicted by somebody else.

...I really don't know. Someone doing something to someone else that makes the person being acted upon fall asleep... "I hit the bottle, then I hit the sack and cried"??? no, that can't be it... not even close. Don't put much if any stock in the crap I'm tossing against the wall.

Potentially helpful fact: it seems Keith lived in St. John's Wood for a time.

Update: within St. John's Wood is Regents Park, which is close to where Regents Studios was which is also somewhat close to Olympic Studios where the Stones recorded "Come On" ("come" being a Ruby Tuesday verb), which has the line "Ev'ry night I lay awake thinkin' about you"

Ugh, that's tenuous at best... I'll keep working.

"I hope you didn't record any of this""No I didn't"



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Well now wait a minute:

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Take the home for several years of both a writer and a politician with alliterative names,
names that show resolution and a confirmation of existence.
Add a verb associated with one in a Stones song who is characterised by an unverified past.
This gives you the context of something in the possession of one who has undergone an action
that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion upon it's completion.

So the name of the home + the verb = the context of something owned:
Owns a block in (the context of) St John's Would - that works!
Your mother who owns it has undergone an action that makes me fall backwards in exhaustion ...
She's undergone the act of inheriting; the act of giving birth; the act of getting her kicks in Stepney ... hm

Olly dear, have you got that incorrect apostrophe in it's on purpose, or is that a typo?

Isn't the "exhaustion" of an estate a legal term in the UK, that has something to do
with heritage? So that would explain the "heiress" part in the lyrics:
"Your mother she's a heiress, owns a block in Saint John's Wood"

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

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Isn't the "exhaustion" of an estate a legal term in the UK, that has something to do
with heritage?

Is it? That would be helpful!
In logic it's the process of establishing a conclusion by eliminating alternatives;
in iorr, it's the process of trying to solve Olly's puzzles by damaging our brains.

Olly backwards is yllo. Does that help us? :E

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marcovandereijk
Isn't the "exhaustion" of an estate a legal term in the UK, that has something to do
with heritage? So that would explain the "heiress" part in the lyrics:
"Your mother she's a heiress, owns a block in Saint John's Wood"

Not that I know of (and I work for a lawyer). It may be an old term.

Might it be a conventional bit off crossword-cryptic - some word involving ME backwards after it's conclusion (T)



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