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stanlove
.....Here is where music talk on the internet gets frustrating. You mention that some of those legends had nice things to say about Hendrix so you win the argument but you ignore that those legends had nice things to say about a lot of artists.....
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frankotero
Wow Stonesrule, I want to say nice story too. You're very lucky to have such an experience. You too must hold many treasures. And Naturalust, I always enjoy reading your take on things, "spot on" must be your middle name. Cheers.
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HairballAs far as this thread is concerned, looks like you are indeed in the minority with your opposing opinion.Quote
stanlove
The problem is its really not true and its just someones minority opinion.Quote
stanlove
It is a stretch to say that Hendrix is up there with the Beatles and Dylan in the big pictures of Rock. Its something some will claim but most know is just not true. Its tiring listening to people always building up the importance of an artist they like a lot. I am a huge Stones fans but they are not in the same level as Dylan and the Beatles, they are in the next one down and actually Hendrix like the Who and some others are in the one down from that. yes some will claim otherwise and yes they would be wrong. I don't like hyperbole. I am huge accuracy guy.
So I suppose you have secret knowledge regarding the "holy grail" of rock and roll, and whoever see's it differently would be a heretic ?
You have a right to think what you want, but to say someone is wrong who disagrees with you is closed minded at best.
When you get a chance, please tell me the criteria in which you base your infallible "accuracy" so maybe I can be enlightened to the "truth" as you know it.
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stanlove
I think the pecking order in rock and roll for the most part is pretty obvious. Not sure why anyone has to be told in the scheme of things Hendrix is not with Dylan,Stones, and Beatles.
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stanlove
.....Here is where music talk on the internet gets frustrating. You mention that some of those legends had nice things to say about Hendrix so you win the argument but you ignore that those legends had nice things to say about a lot of artists.....
There aren't winners of arguments on here or any other forum. It's not a competition. Some of us think Jimi is more important musically than you do. Big deal. It's just a matter of opinion. No one thinks we are talking about provable facts when it comes to this.
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stanlove
I think the pecking order in rock and roll for the most part is pretty obvious. Not sure why anyone has to be told in the scheme of things Hendrix is not with Dylan,Stones, and Beatles.
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stanlove
I think the pecking order in rock and roll for the most part is pretty obvious. Not sure why anyone has to be told in the scheme of things Hendrix is not with Dylan,Stones, and Beatles.
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stanlove
.....Here is where music talk on the internet gets frustrating. You mention that some of those legends had nice things to say about Hendrix so you win the argument but you ignore that those legends had nice things to say about a lot of artists.....
There aren't winners of arguments on here or any other forum. It's not a competition. Some of us think Jimi is more important musically than you do. Big deal. It's just a matter of opinion. No one thinks we are talking about provable facts when it comes to this.
Exactly Turner68.
Music (and all art for that matter) is subjective, and depends on one's personal feelings and perspectives regarding the validity of it all. This is not rocket science where there is an absolute wrong or right - no one's going to explode if they give the wrong answer according to some proven theory or precise calculations.
Nobody has condemned stanlove to the shithouse simply because of his opinions, but when he says 'you are wrong' regarding who I appreciate and at what level I appreciate, well in my neck of the woods that can't be taken lightly.
But then again. maybe stanlove has a point (lol). Maybe I should re-evaluate and do away with my personal feelings, freedom of thought, and freedom of expression, along with the many years of listening to and studying music. Maybe then I should uphold the beliefs of the mysterious 'higher power' of 'accuracy' according to stanlove...whatever that may be.
But then again maybe not. It has dawned on me that this stanlove character is the same poster who pooped all over the John Lennon R.I.P memorial thread simply because of his hatred for all things Lennon. I was wise enough to stay out of that trolling mess, and will now bow out of this thread gracefully to avoid any further troll poop.
Keep on trolling.........
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DaveG
I did see JH in concert. It was at Newport '69 at Devonshire Downs in Northridge, California, a 3-day concert with a pretty good line-up. Aside from JH, I saw Creedence, Jethro Tull, Johnny Winter, The Chambers Brothers, The Rascals, Booker T, Steppenwolf, Three Dog Night, and many more.
I saw him on Sunday, the final day of the festival. There is a film on Youtube of that performance, which was filmed from right near where I was standing. It was kind of a jam session, with Buddy Miles on drums. I had always liked JH, not everything he did, but he was the real deal.
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stanlove
I don't argue ever about whos music is better, I will argue if someone tells me Ratt is a bigger deal in the History of Rock then the Beatles.
Stat the obvious get called a troll.
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stanlove
I don't argue ever about whos music is better, I will argue if someone tells me Ratt is a bigger deal in the History of Rock then the Beatles.
Stat the obvious get called a troll.
I think the whole point is that you want to argue at all. When someone expresses an opinion and calls it a fact and everybody who doesn't agree with them wrong, that is bound to get people upset.
The things you are so sure are facts are obviously not considered so by other people so perhaps if you just finished your sentence with a simple "imo", it would be easier to swallow and be taken more seriously. Not everything is as it seems from any of our perspectives and when discussing artists like Hendrix and Lennon, things are even less clear and as you have stated emotions can cloud judgement.
History may be a bit more objective than music appreciation but there are certainly many ways to interpret it, so it still is an "eye of the beholder concept." American history is riddled with "facts" that upon further study with a different perspective change 180 deg. For example sitting down with an American Indian elder and hearing their history of an event we read about as "fact" in our grade school history books give you a whole different perspective. Or in the case of Hendrix, ask 100 rock guitarists who was more important and influential to them, Dylan or Hendrix?
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stanlove
There you go again. Asking 100 guitarists who is more influential to them has nothing to do with who obviously is more influential in rock history. Two different things.