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I was trying to think of anyone LESS experimental than the Stones, who can make everyone freak out just by playing 2000 Light Years at Glastonbury? U2 definitely play more album and rare cuts. The only act that's more risk-averse may be Billy Joel, who plays the same 20 songs every night since 1990.
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LongBeachArena72:
No comparison at all to The Stones.
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MrEcho
If the Rolling Stones followed Dylan's current example of playing mostly recent songs, their setlist could look something like this. I would love it.
1. Highwire
2. Play With Fire
3. Rough Justice
4. Oh No Not You Again
5. Love Is Strong
6. Mean Disposition
7. Anybody Seen My Baby
8. Miss You
9. Thief In The Night (Keith)
10. How Can I Stop (Keith)
11. Beast Of Burden
12. Back Of My Hand
13. Laugh I Nearly Died
14. Sweethearts Together
15. Already Over Me
16. Gunface
17. Low Down
18. One More Shot
19. Satisfaction
20. Doom And Gloom
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Bob Dylan (since 2013 the same setlist at almost every show, no greatest hits though expect form Blowin' In the Wind and Watchtower)
The Dylan setlists may be a rigid as you said in terms of repeating the same songs. But as you said, it's packed with lesser-known songs (I recently checked a setlist out after a friend went to see him earlier this year), so I don't really consider it "conservative". Which to me is not just playing the same songs, but also the safe songs. The show my friend went to only had a few songs I'd even heard of. I'm not a big Dylan fan in terms of his whole career, but I'm pretty well-versed in his studio/live work of the 60's and 70's. He did play Blowin' In The Wind that night, but no Watchtower. He played Tangled Up In Blue and She Belongs To Me, which I think are pretty well-known. At least in comparison to the rest of the setlist.
This is Dylan's current setlist with release dates of the songs added. I would not call this conservative at all. In fact for an artist with Dylan's history it is quite unusual to play so many recent songs. Only two songs are from the 1960s and only two songs are from the 1970s. I think it's great and I wish the Rolling Stones did the same.
Dylan – 2015 setlist
1. Things Have Changed (2000)
2. She Belongs To Me (1965)
3. Beyond Here Lies Nothin' (2009)
4. Workingman's Blues #2 (2006)
5. Duquesne Whistle (2012)
6. Waiting For You (2002)
7. Pay In Blood (2012)
8. Tangled Up In Blue (1975)
9. Love Sick (1997)
10. High Water (2001)
11. Simple Twist Of Fate (1975)
12. Early Roman Kings (2012)
13. Forgetful Heart (2009)
14. Spirit On The Water (2006)
15. Scarlet Town (2012)
16. Soon After Midnight (2012)
17. Long And Wasted Years (2012)
18. Autumn Leaves (2015)
19. Blowin' In The Wind (1963)
20. Stay With Me (2015)
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Bob Dylan (since 2013 the same setlist at almost every show, no greatest hits though expect form Blowin' In the Wind and Watchtower)
The Dylan setlists may be a rigid as you said in terms of repeating the same songs. But as you said, it's packed with lesser-known songs (I recently checked a setlist out after a friend went to see him earlier this year), so I don't really consider it "conservative". Which to me is not just playing the same songs, but also the safe songs. The show my friend went to only had a few songs I'd even heard of. I'm not a big Dylan fan in terms of his whole career, but I'm pretty well-versed in his studio/live work of the 60's and 70's. He did play Blowin' In The Wind that night, but no Watchtower. He played Tangled Up In Blue and She Belongs To Me, which I think are pretty well-known. At least in comparison to the rest of the setlist.
This is Dylan's current setlist with release dates of the songs added. I would not call this conservative at all. In fact for an artist with Dylan's history it is quite unusual to play so many recent songs. Only two songs are from the 1960s and only two songs are from the 1970s. I think it's great and I wish the Rolling Stones did the same.
Dylan – 2015 setlist
1. Things Have Changed (2000)
2. She Belongs To Me (1965)
3. Beyond Here Lies Nothin' (2009)
4. Workingman's Blues #2 (2006)
5. Duquesne Whistle (2012)
6. Waiting For You (2002)
7. Pay In Blood (2012)
8. Tangled Up In Blue (1975)
9. Love Sick (1997)
10. High Water (2001)
11. Simple Twist Of Fate (1975)
12. Early Roman Kings (2012)
13. Forgetful Heart (2009)
14. Spirit On The Water (2006)
15. Scarlet Town (2012)
16. Soon After Midnight (2012)
17. Long And Wasted Years (2012)
18. Autumn Leaves (2015)
19. Blowin' In The Wind (1963)
20. Stay With Me (2015)
It's so impressive how committed he is to his newer material. People can go or not go but he's doing this for posterity.
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24FPS
Dylan sold out the 18,000 seat Hollywood Bowl last time I saw him. And it was rarities, and then warhorses delivered in new arrangements.
At some point Mick decided to really cash in. Remember how glorious they were when they wouldn't even play an encore? They simply got in the limo and you saw their tail lights fading.
I saw ZZ Top for the first time last summer. It was great and I expected the warhorses and I got them. But let's face it, ZZ Top doesn't have the catalogue the Stones do. I know it was supposed to be a big deal on the 2013 tour when they opened with I Wanna Be Your Man and a couple others, but they were really lazy about it. The Stones just kind of loped through those songs. There was no edge to Get Off of My Cloud.
Face it. The concerts now are for the tourists. I saw the Pay Per View in 2012 and saw them live in 2013. It's over for the hardcore fan. That's why they have a brilliant two-way stream going now, big payday concerts for the tourists, and archival releases for the hardcore fan. Seriously. I'd rather the 'new' Live at Leeds than walk across the street to hear the present Stones play Tumblin' Devil.
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LongBeachArena72:
No comparison at all to The Stones.
You're right-there is no comparison to Dylan. He plays in front of a few thousand "hardcore" fans (I imagine you would have to be to listen to his whiny ramblings). The Stones are playing in front of tens of thousands of fans each night from a variety of backgrounds in enormous stadiums/arenas that they must entertain. I first saw the Stones with my mother. Her favorite song is Gimme Shelter (a "warhorse" that I'm sure Iorrians would replace with "insert obligatory random rarity here) which they didn't play. It took nothing away from her experience. I would love to hear "Shine a Light" or "hand of fate" or "rock and a hard place" or "rocks off like they played it in 72" or "whatever song you prefer" but that's not going to take away from the fun that I, my girlfriend, or my brother (all in our 20s, and very well versed fans) are going to have when we're singing along to Its Only Rock and Roll.
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That said, this current tour does nothing for me. From the bargain basement stage, to the safest setlists I've ever seen (and all of this at a premium price)- I can't justify spending the money.
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LongBeachArena72:
No comparison at all to The Stones.
You're right-there is no comparison to Dylan. He plays in front of a few thousand "hardcore" fans (I imagine you would have to be to listen to his whiny ramblings). The Stones are playing in front of tens of thousands of fans each night from a variety of backgrounds in enormous stadiums/arenas that they must entertain. I first saw the Stones with my mother. Her favorite song is Gimme Shelter (a "warhorse" that I'm sure Iorrians would replace with "insert obligatory random rarity here) which they didn't play. It took nothing away from her experience. I would love to hear "Shine a Light" or "hand of fate" or "rock and a hard place" or "rocks off like they played it in 72" or "whatever song you prefer" but that's not going to take away from the fun that I, my girlfriend, or my brother (all in our 20s, and very well versed fans) are going to have when we're singing along to Its Only Rock and Roll.
Totally agree with the "no comparison" remark. The Stones ARE masterful entertainers, among the best the world has ever seen. Dylan is a thorny difficult artist, continuing to produce challenging new work well into his 70's. Completely different experiences.
I think being in your 20's is quite possibly the PERFECT time to be a Stones fan. They had written almost all of their best songs before they were 30; they were geniuses at capturing that particular moment of life's journey.
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That said, this current tour does nothing for me. From the bargain basement stage, to the safest setlists I've ever seen (and all of this at a premium price)- I can't justify spending the money.
That's the feeling I've had since 2013 concerning the Stones. These days, all they have to do is to play Bitch, Moonlight Mile and Out Of Control at the same show and people will write stuff like ''Anyone asking for more is nuts''.
It's sad to see people getting satisfied by so little.
You have to find other things to enjoy about the gigs, like how good they sound, but at this point many songs sound almost exactly the same every night...
Even if there's still highlights and low points, the quality of the shows seemed to vary more on previous tours. Since 2012 most gigs are on the same level: good, but not great.
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taz22
Just send Chuck Leavall a pm on Facebook and ask him to plead with Mick to change the setlist to include some lesser played songs for the remainder of the tour.