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I don't think younger Stones only know the Ron Wood-version at all. I'm pretty sure the Brian era is the one they know best, though, as most of the material they play comes from that era.

People have the internet, remember

Most of material played is from the Taylor/Wood era.

Jones Era
Jumping Jack Flash
Paint It Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Satisfaction


Taylor Era
All Down The Line (by request)
Tumbling Dice
Angie
Brown Sugar
Honky Tonk Women

Wood Era
Out Of Control
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Miss You
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Start Me Up


In between Jones/Taylor
Gimme Shelter
You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)

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I don't think younger Stones only know the Ron Wood-version at all. I'm pretty sure the Brian era is the one they know best, though, as most of the material they play comes from that era.

People have the internet, remember

Most of material played is from the Taylor/Wood era.

Jones Era
Jumping Jack Flash
Paint It Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Satisfaction


Taylor Era
All Down The Line (by request)
Tumbling Dice
Angie
Brown Sugar
Honky Tonk Women

Wood Era
Out Of Control
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Miss You
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Start Me Up


In between Jones/Taylor
Gimme Shelter
You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)

True, but what I meant was that the era with most songs in the setlist is Brian's YCAGWYW was performed (with Brian) in 1968, so I'd say that's a Brian era song. Same with You Got The Silver, which he played on on LIB.

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I don't think younger Stones only know the Ron Wood-version at all. I'm pretty sure the Brian era is the one they know best, though, as most of the material they play comes from that era.

People have the internet, remember

Most of material played is from the Taylor/Wood era.

Jones Era
Jumping Jack Flash
Paint It Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Satisfaction


Taylor Era
All Down The Line (by request)
Tumbling Dice
Angie
Brown Sugar
Honky Tonk Women

Wood Era
Out Of Control
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Miss You
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Start Me Up


In between Jones/Taylor
Gimme Shelter
You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)

True, but what I meant was that the era with most songs in the setlist is Brian's YCAGWYW was performed (with Brian) in 1968, so I'd say that's a Brian era song. Same with You Got The Silver, which he played on on LIB.

You are right Dandy. I always tend to forget about the Brian Jones era because I have never seen them live with Brian. i was speaking from that context. The Ronnie Wood era is great as well. I'm just daydreaming of all Stones playing together again. Nice daydream tho!

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I want him back as much as you, but his soloing on Sway probably impressed 5% at most of the audience in LA. To the other 95%, it wouldn't have mattered to them if it was Ronnie playing it. They wouldn't have noticed a difference.

Again ridiculous and false - no offense.

Lol I mean I don't even have a response. Its neither but ok. Just chalk it up to another thing we simply disagree on . I'm as baffled by your comment as you are of mine. The Eagles prove, even though its been clear for decades, that today's audiences don't care who's in a band! They care about a name, they care about the hits, they care about a good nostalgic time. Thats why Stones fans get annoyed with the Stones, Springsteen fans get annoyed with Springsteen, Tom Petty fans get annoyed with Tom Petty. Because they cater to the 90% and not the 10% of hardcores. But hey, it sells so I don't judge them for not changing. Its on the stupid concert public that has gotten stupider with each passing day.

Just my two cents though. I'm not as angry as I seem.

No you don't sound angry, just a bit misguided.

Again, the tickets were selling poorly at the recent Las Vegas shows (and Desert Trip). Yes they were overpriced, but also many people were either bored and/or weren't willing to see the same old Stones show again.

Having some "Fresh blood" ala Mick Taylor back with the Stones is what the Stones world needs (casual fan or not), and dropping prices back to normal might also be of help.

How do you know that? I haven't seen any indications of many people being bored, and never have I heard that specified from the masses as a reason for not going to a Stones-show.

Didn't the cancellation have anything to do with the ONE Vegas show that sold poorly?

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I was implying that people were bored with the thought of seeing the Stones again based on what everyone I know had told me prior to the shows. My sister, bro-in-law, cousins, niece, many friends- young and old alike, and a few who might be considered diehards (but not in comparison to most on this board) - aka the general masses/casual fans. To paraphrase what I was hearing "Way too expensive"..."Same old song and dance"..."didn't they just play here"?..."no Mick Taylor"?!!!..."WTF"?!!!...etc., etc., etc.

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I was implying that people were bored with the thought of seeing the Stones again based on what everyone I know had told me prior to the shows. My sister, bro-in-law, cousins, niece, many friends- young and old alike, and a few who might be considered diehards (but not in comparison to most on this board) - aka the general masses/casual fans. To paraphrase what I was hearing "Way too expensive"..."Same old song and dance"..."didn't they just play here"?..."no Mick Taylor"?!!!..."WTF"?!!!...etc., etc., etc.

I'm fascinated by what "the general masses/casual fans" think of the band today. Do you think, for example, that most of them even know enough about Mick Taylor and his contributions to the band decades ago to make his appearing with them a deciding factor in purchasing a ticket?

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I am a huge fan but this will be my first tour since 1990, I won't visit even one concert, although zurich is only one hour away. I flew to hyde park and saw three shows in 2014 but now its enough with these prices, same setlist, same show... So yes, there are some more thinking that way. Anyway I will take my daily dose of bootlegs further. Love the band but ain't not "under their thumb" lol

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However, this year or next year will be the last time they play due to age.

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However, this year or next year will be the last time they play due to age.

Lol, you're probably right, but it has to be pointed out this has been said for the last 20 years, and very seriously for the last 12 or so. I'm sure people thought there was only one more tour after the Licks one. They keep defying it. And thats good, they should continue as long as they can and as long as its good. But there's been so many assumptions that this is probably the end that its so funny at this point. Cause now its true, but its just such a cliche.

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I don't think younger Stones only know the Ron Wood-version at all. I'm pretty sure the Brian era is the one they know best, though, as most of the material they play comes from that era.

People have the internet, remember

Most of material played is from the Taylor/Wood era.

Jones Era
Jumping Jack Flash
Paint It Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Satisfaction


Taylor Era
All Down The Line (by request)
Tumbling Dice
Angie
Brown Sugar
Honky Tonk Women

Wood Era
Out Of Control
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Miss You
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Start Me Up


In between Jones/Taylor
Gimme Shelter
You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)

True, but what I meant was that the era with most songs in the setlist is Brian's YCAGWYW was performed (with Brian) in 1968, so I'd say that's a Brian era song. Same with You Got The Silver, which he played on on LIB.

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I don't think younger Stones only know the Ron Wood-version at all. I'm pretty sure the Brian era is the one they know best, though, as most of the material they play comes from that era.

People have the internet, remember

Most of material played is from the Taylor/Wood era.

Jones Era
Jumping Jack Flash
Paint It Black
Sympathy For The Devil
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Satisfaction


Taylor Era
All Down The Line (by request)
Tumbling Dice
Angie
Brown Sugar
Honky Tonk Women

Wood Era
Out Of Control
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Miss You
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Start Me Up


In between Jones/Taylor
Gimme Shelter
You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)

True, but what I meant was that the era with most songs in the setlist is Brian's YCAGWYW was performed (with Brian) in 1968, so I'd say that's a Brian era song. Same with You Got The Silver, which he played on on LIB.

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I am a huge fan but this will be my first tour since 1990, I won't visit even one concert, although zurich is only one hour away. I flew to hyde park and saw three shows in 2014 but now its enough with these prices, same setlist, same show... So yes, there are some more thinking that way. Anyway I will take my daily dose of bootlegs further. Love the band but ain't not "under their thumb" lol

I would probably say the same. However, this year or next year will be the last time they play due to age. Therefore, I am going for a last goodbye. I would regret if I didn't.[/quotequote

that's what I thought in 2014...

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I am a huge fan but this will be my first tour since 1990, I won't visit even one concert, although zurich is only one hour away. I flew to hyde park and saw three shows in 2014 but now its enough with these prices, same setlist, same show... So yes, there are some more thinking that way. Anyway I will take my daily dose of bootlegs further. Love the band but ain't not "under their thumb" lol

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I am a huge fan but this will be my first tour since 1990, I won't visit even one concert, although zurich is only one hour away. I flew to hyde park and saw three shows in 2014 but now its enough with these prices, same setlist, same show... So yes, there are some more thinking that way. Anyway I will take my daily dose of bootlegs further. Love the band but ain't not "under their thumb" lol

Yes, I can confirm that for more or less exactly these reasons, none of the few dozens of former Stones "regulars" I know go to a single show in Europe this time. Some have already stopped going to shows after Licks, some after ABB, some have "returned" just for Taylor in 2014, but that card has been played already, and Blue And Lonesome obviously did not help in this case ("Oh, they're probably going to play one song from the album, wtf? Or "rarities" like Bitch, Live With Me, All Down The Line, Steet Fighting Man - no thanks, been there, done that!" - to sum up the general mood). And they're probably not even missed, at least not if there are still enough people who actually show up.

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I am a huge fan but this will be my first tour since 1990, I won't visit even one concert, although zurich is only one hour away. I flew to hyde park and saw three shows in 2014 but now its enough with these prices, same setlist, same show... So yes, there are some more thinking that way. Anyway I will take my daily dose of bootlegs further. Love the band but ain't not "under their thumb" lol

Yes, I can confirm that for more or less exactly these reasons, none of the few dozens of former Stones "regulars" I know go to a single show in Europe this time. Some have already stopped going to shows after Licks, some after ABB, some have "returned" just for Taylor in 2014, but that card has been played already, and Blue And Lonesome obviously did not help in this case ("Oh, they're probably going to play one song from the album, wtf? Or "rarities" like Bitch, Live With Me, All Down The Line, Steet Fighting Man - no thanks, been there, done that!" - to sum up the general mood). And they're probably not even missed, at least not if there are still enough people who actually show up.

Seemingly, great music will always gain new followers..

Not even one of your dozens of Stones friends will do any shows?? Wow, that's sad..

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"Oh he was alright; you know...I mean, he was a bit difficult at times...
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MT: Oh, he was alright. You know, I mean, he was a bit difficult at times. A bit of a, a bit of a prima donna, you know, but, uh… what do you expect, you know? I mean, he’s a, he’s a great entertainer.

haha; no I was quoting Mick T. from stonehearted cool downloaded pics above, and the accompanying quotes. It's Mick Taylor responding to questions about Mick Jagger. I was just having fun and breaking it up...adding elipses when i deviated from the quote. THe quote was right above so I thought maybe it wouldn't be confusing, but I contriubted to the confusion by breaking up the quote anyway, not intentionally...

...took out the 'prima donna' remark which would have actually emphasized the point rather than confuse it. doh...
...just my take on Mick T maybe wanting to be diplomatic as well as honest. They have some "uhs" and seeming pauses. I imagined him being tentative and careful; telling it straight but skipping the drama and potential conflict. Tho I bet he's conflicted at times.

He's not a shit-flinger, but he knows he's been treated with less than professional courtesy from time to time...I don't know if he's drunk. I kinda wish I had a beer come to think of it.

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John Mayall & Mick Taylor/Bluesbreakers, Buffalo, 6-09-1982. Never seen before. Thanks to DS. Enjoy.

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