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Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Date: June 30, 2014 00:01

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Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: June 30, 2014 00:02

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Turning To Gold
Would be interested to know if these people hearing "Charlie" and "you got the sticks" are native English speakers.

I'm a native English speaker, and that's how I heard it--but like I said, having assumed for years that that's what the line was, that's how I'll always hear it now anyway. But it still does sound like that to me. (Talking about the studio version, of course.)

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: June 30, 2014 00:04

^ Seconded. There have been threads on misheard lyrics, and this must be one of the biggest instances, if it is indeed "child" rather than "Charlie", as so many here including myself are hearing the latter.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: June 30, 2014 01:12

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MILKYWAY
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stonesrule
I seem to remember early on that there was a line that said, "Charlie, you've got the sticks..."

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More Hot Rocks
Its not Charlie it's child

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with sssoul
It's never been "child", not even once by mistake

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Gooo
It's "child"

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DandelionPowderman
The only mentioning of Charlie in Bitch is in the 1972 live versions:

"Charlie, won't you get down with it...".

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Gooo
Pretty sure it's not "charlie"

Well, I guess that clears it up. confused smiley
definitly near the core. the magic of group efforts.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: vertigojoe ()
Date: June 30, 2014 01:43

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Gooo

Yeah, you got to mix it child
You got to fix it must be love
It's a bitch
You got to mix it child
You got to fix it but love
It's a bitch, ah...

Never realised it was a Smack song

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 30, 2014 01:54

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vertigojoe
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Gooo

Yeah, you got to mix it child
You got to fix it must be love
It's a bitch
You got to mix it child
You got to fix it but love
It's a bitch, ah...

Never realised it was a Smack song

Now you got it!

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: June 30, 2014 01:57

Both Aquamarine and I are native English speakers.
We remember the early version of BITCH wording the same way.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: June 30, 2014 14:05

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More Hot Rocks
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vertigojoe
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Gooo

Yeah, you got to mix it child
You got to fix it must be love
It's a bitch
You got to mix it child
You got to fix it but love
It's a bitch, ah...

Never realised it was a Smack song

Now you got it!

Just listened with headphones--pretty sure the above is totally correct. I've always thought of Bitch as a
Keith-dominated song anyway, lyrically, so if there's a smack theme that jives especially well.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Date: June 30, 2014 14:12

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stonehearted
^ Seconded. There have been threads on misheard lyrics, and this must be one of the biggest instances, if it is indeed "child" rather than "Charlie", as so many here including myself are hearing the latter.

Ronnie had to read it himself, to comprehend what Mick was singing about. Supposedly, he then had a good laugh. This was 1989.

So, native speaker or not - Mick Jagger can be hard to get sometimes grinning smiley

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: June 30, 2014 14:24

Yes, Dandie, further proof that it is indeed "the singer not the song". smiling smiley

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Plink ()
Date: June 30, 2014 14:56

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More Hot Rocks
Its not Charlie it's child

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Gooo
It's "child"

I’m w/ Gooo & More Hot Rocks on this one. I believe the confusion is caused by Mick’s pronunciation of the word “child”. He has his own unique phrasing and I think he puts his twist on the pronunciation of “child” so it ends up as “child-uh” which, I think, flows better than just “child” would (and could be easily interpreted as “Charlie”). As for “sticks”, I can't hear that at all – just “fix” with a definite “f”. JMHO, of course.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: June 30, 2014 17:47

ABKCO got a LOT of things wrong.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Rokyfan ()
Date: June 30, 2014 18:25

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Plink
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More Hot Rocks
Its not Charlie it's child

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Gooo
It's "child"

I’m w/ Gooo & More Hot Rocks on this one. I believe the confusion is caused by Mick’s pronunciation of the word “child”. He has his own unique phrasing and I think he puts his twist on the pronunciation of “child” so it ends up as “child-uh” which, I think, flows better than just “child” would (and could be easily interpreted as “Charlie”). As for “sticks”, I can't hear that at all – just “fix” with a definite “f”. JMHO, of course.

that is it. He's going a kind of black american dialect, saying "Child"
without the "D" sound . . . chile (rhymes with Nile) and it comes out kind of like "charlie"

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 30, 2014 18:44

It's "Charlie". Enough of this revisionism. smoking smiley

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: June 30, 2014 18:51

(rhymes with Nile) OMG

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: RockinJive ()
Date: June 30, 2014 18:52

You don't hear the R or the lie in Charlie. Its chile or child. I don't know why people hear what they want to think they hear.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: RockinJive ()
Date: June 30, 2014 18:52

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71Tele
It's "Charlie". Enough of this revisionism. smoking smiley

Ummmmm.......................no

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: June 30, 2014 19:33

I've always heard "Charlie", but then again I've misheard many Stones lyrics throughout the years.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 30, 2014 21:02

Unless "child" became a two-syllable word, it's "Charlie".

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: June 30, 2014 22:47

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71Tele
Unless "child" became a two-syllable word, it's "Charlie".

chile an' ("child, and" )



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-07-01 12:11 by swiss.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: SharksWillCry ()
Date: June 30, 2014 23:26

Come on, people. It's "chowder". You got to mix the clam chowder before it burns. New England accent. "Clea" as "deh".

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Plink ()
Date: July 1, 2014 08:29

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SharksWillCry
Come on, people. It's "chowder". You got to mix the clam chowder before it burns. New England accent. "Clea" as "deh".

That's it! Bitch is a song about chowder that’s not properly blended and the advice offered to fix it before it burns:

You got to mix the chowder
You got to fix it
Trust me, love
It’s a bisque! Awright!

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: alieb ()
Date: July 1, 2014 08:55

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Plink
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SharksWillCry
Come on, people. It's "chowder". You got to mix the clam chowder before it burns. New England accent. "Clea" as "deh".

That's it! Bitch is a song about chowder that’s not properly blended and the advice offered to fix it before it burns:

You got to mix the chowder
You got to fix it
Trust me, love
It’s a bisque! Awright!

i think i like this version the best

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: July 1, 2014 09:02

From an Australian-English speaking fan (does that count as English speaking?) I have ALWAYS heard Charlie. I have never before doubted it...now I have to listen again....damn it!! ;-)

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: z ()
Date: July 1, 2014 10:18

OK,., just want to make sure that I got it.. Mick asks Charlie to mix the smack with his drumsticks... Is that right? confused smiley

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: July 1, 2014 10:44

I hear FIX it Charlie.......never MIX it

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 1, 2014 11:37

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Plink
Quote
SharksWillCry
Come on, people. It's "chowder". You got to mix the clam chowder before it burns. New England accent. "Clea" as "deh".

That's it! Bitch is a song about chowder that’s not properly blended and the advice offered to fix it before it burns:

You got to mix the chowder
You got to fix it
Trust me, love
It’s a bisque! Awright!

Post of the year. thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: exhpart ()
Date: July 1, 2014 12:28

I always heard "chile" as in Voodoo Chile

You got to mix it chile

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: July 1, 2014 12:41

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stonehearted
I've always heard "Charlie" rather than "child" but take it to mean a generic term for a man like "Joe" or "buddy", thinking that "Charlie" might have just been one of those terms around that time in the UK or elsewhere.

British army slang (& old British films) has 'Charlie' as an idiot...."oh, he's a right Charlie = Oh, he's real idiot".

I can't remember hearing in general society at all - maybe a wartime expression which has died out.

Re: Is Charlie quoted in Bitch's lyrics?
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: July 1, 2014 13:03

Probably that Charlie McCoy geezer again8.
...Get's his name checked all over the place eye rolling smiley

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