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sf37
By the way, are these "Track Talks" all housed in any specific IORR section, or is a general search required to look up any such song? I do find them all to be quite informative in their discussions. Thanks!
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sf37
By the way, are these "Track Talks" all housed in any specific IORR section, or is a general search required to look up any such song? I do find them all to be quite informative in their discussions. Thanks!
Thanks to Green Lady, you can find all the Track Talks here.
Drew
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When GHS came out in 1973 nobody I knew bought it. All I heard of it was radio play of Angie and Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Heartbreaker. Didn't like the latter. Actively hated the former... sappy pabulum IMO. I skipped GHS, and IORR and Black and Blue after it. Stuck with my Sticky Fingers, Exile, and Hot Rocks until the lads bounced back with Some Girls, ER, & Tattoo You.
Didn't hear GHS through until decades later.
Had I heard Silver Train back then, it would have been different. Those were my Stones. I'd have had to look into the rest of GHS somehow.
Nobody bought Goats Head Soup in1973?It was a number 1 album that year and went on to be one of their biggest selling albums.And Angie Silver Train and Heartbreaker are classic songsQuote
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TheBluesHadaBaby
When GHS came out in 1973 nobody I knew bought it. All I heard of it was radio play of Angie and Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Heartbreaker. Didn't like the latter. Actively hated the former... sappy pabulum IMO. I skipped GHS, and IORR and Black and Blue after it. Stuck with my Sticky Fingers, Exile, and Hot Rocks until the lads bounced back with Some Girls, ER, & Tattoo You.
Didn't hear GHS through until decades later.
Had I heard Silver Train back then, it would have been different. Those were my Stones. I'd have had to look into the rest of GHS somehow.
That seems so strange to not get something just because of two songs on the radio - released 4 months apart at that.
Did you ever get GHS, IORR and BAB? It occurred to me the other day how Hot Stuff has aged excellently, as well as that album - it somehow continues to improve as music textures change.
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Taylor1Nobody bought Goats Head Soup in1973?It was a number 1 album that year and went on to be one of their biggest selling albums.And Angie Silver Train and Heartbreaker are classic songsQuote
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TheBluesHadaBaby
When GHS came out in 1973 nobody I knew bought it. All I heard of it was radio play of Angie and Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Heartbreaker. Didn't like the latter. Actively hated the former... sappy pabulum IMO. I skipped GHS, and IORR and Black and Blue after it. Stuck with my Sticky Fingers, Exile, and Hot Rocks until the lads bounced back with Some Girls, ER, & Tattoo You.
Didn't hear GHS through until decades later.
Had I heard Silver Train back then, it would have been different. Those were my Stones. I'd have had to look into the rest of GHS somehow.
That seems so strange to not get something just because of two songs on the radio - released 4 months apart at that.
Did you ever get GHS, IORR and BAB? It occurred to me the other day how Hot Stuff has aged excellently, as well as that album - it somehow continues to improve as music textures change.
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Doxa
GOATS HEAD SOUP sold well, as did Elvis albums, but I think it marks the moment when The Stones started to look and sound old and old-fashionable, no matter how much glitter Jagger put on his face. I guess the success of "Angie" especially was Pyrrho's win for the band. From then on, they would remain incredible popular for sure, being elder statemen of rock, living legends, and sometimes even cope with the trends convincingly, but funnily 'irrelevant' as far as the development of rock music goes. It is is very different what they once were, reflecting and defining the zeitgeit. That sort of aging and going obsolete is most natural in pop music, but still, what a drag is getting old...
So I think the critical observations here do reflect the same phenomenon.
But if for any Stones album the father time has been very kind to GOATS HEAD SOUP. Forget the context, it is a wonderful album telling where the muse was taking them at the time. There is an unique feel there, the sort of insecure, even melancholic reflection of what's going on. Like I once described, it is a hang-over album after the fiesta of their previous albums. So if it does not have any longer a significance in the grand history of popular music giving soundtrack to the times (like the previous albums by them), it has an important role in the story of the Stones. It is the latter that interests us here, right?
"Silver Train" belongs to that corner of the album in which the bands plays safe, trusting to the blues rock instincts they had perfected in their previous albums. Probably there is some of that earlier freshness, sharpness, focus and edge lacking, but it works for me. It sounds 'tired' in a fascinating way.
- Doxa
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Doxa
GOATS HEAD SOUP sold well, as did Elvis albums, but I think it marks the moment when The Stones started to look and sound old and old-fashionable, no matter how much glitter Jagger put on his face. I guess the success of "Angie" especially was Pyrrho's win for the band. From then on, they would remain incredible popular for sure, being elder statemen of rock, living legends, and sometimes even cope with the trends convincingly, but funnily 'irrelevant' as far as the development of rock music goes. It is is very different what they once were, reflecting and defining the zeitgeit. That sort of aging and going obsolete is most natural in pop music, but still, what a drag is getting old...
So I think the critical observations here do reflect the same phenomenon.
But if for any Stones album the father time has been very kind to GOATS HEAD SOUP. Forget the context, it is a wonderful album telling where the muse was taking them at the time. There is an unique feel there, the sort of insecure, even melancholic reflection of what's going on. Like I once described, it is a hang-over album after the fiesta of their previous albums. So if it does not have any longer a significance in the grand history of popular music giving soundtrack to the times (like the previous albums by them), it has an important role in the story of the Stones. It is the latter that interests us here, right?
"Silver Train" belongs to that corner of the album in which the bands plays safe, trusting to the blues rock instincts they had perfected in their previous albums. Probably there is some of that earlier freshness, sharpness, focus and edge lacking, but it works for me. It sounds 'tired' in a fascinating way.
- Doxa
I think the quip about the FINGERS/EXILE bit has gotten old: SOUP was the band continuing. It wasn't until the 1990s that SOUP was scene as a "hangover", as I recall - which made me think, WTF? Clearly inventive music/songs on GHS that were beyond FINGERS/EXILE. Really no different than anything post-SOME GIRLS.
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More camp than a row of tents!
Methinks this was the first time the Stones brought camp to the party, at least in a promo.