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I always felt it was about the milieu Mick found himself in. Everyone around him was using heroin - Keith, Marianne, Anita, Jimmy Miller, Robert Fraser, Michael Cooper, Tony Sanchez. At some level it must have been very strange for him, because his work ethic and drive to succeed had never changed.
I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
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I always felt it was about the milieu Mick found himself in. Everyone around him was using heroin - Keith, Marianne, Anita, Jimmy Miller, Robert Fraser, Michael Cooper, Tony Sanchez. At some level it must have been very strange for him, because his work ethic and drive to succeed had never changed.
I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
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I always felt it was about the milieu Mick found himself in. Everyone around him was using heroin - Keith, Marianne, Anita, Jimmy Miller, Robert Fraser, Michael Cooper, Tony Sanchez. At some level it must have been very strange for him, because his work ethic and drive to succeed had never changed.
I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
Brilliant, Bliss!
Yes, but Mick wasn't a total innocent when it came to drugs. At that time, he was experimenting like the others, just maybe in a more controlled way. I believe it was Jerry Hall who said that Mick was snorting herion when she first met up with him and that was much later than this. The suggestion often seems to be that Mick was this paragon of virtue when it came to drugs, but that doesn't seem to be the case, especially when he was in his 20's and 30's.
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I always felt it was about the milieu Mick found himself in. Everyone around him was using heroin - Keith, Marianne, Anita, Jimmy Miller, Robert Fraser, Michael Cooper, Tony Sanchez. At some level it must have been very strange for him, because his work ethic and drive to succeed had never changed.
I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
Brilliant, Bliss!
Yes, but Mick wasn't a total innocent when it came to drugs. At that time, he was experimenting like the others, just maybe in a more controlled way. I believe it was Jerry Hall who said that Mick was snorting herion when she first met up with him and that was much later than this. The suggestion often seems to be that Mick was this paragon of virtue when it came to drugs, but that doesn't seem to be the case, especially when he was in his 20's and 30's.
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I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
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I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
I don't think this is always why people take it. They and many others have talked about the problems of life on the road, the high that they get onstage and the difficulty of dealing with the frustrated sensation afterwards when all that adrenaline has no place to go. Enter booze, cocaine, uppers and downers, and finally heroin.
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I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
I don't think this is always why people take it. They and many others have talked about the problems of life on the road, the high that they get onstage and the difficulty of dealing with the frustrated sensation afterwards when all that adrenaline has no place to go. Enter booze, cocaine, uppers and downers, and finally heroin.
True, but that doesn't explain the heroin use among the others I mentioned above. How great would it have been to live Robert Fraser's, Michale Cooper's or Anita's life (once Anita was free of Brian)?
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I think the message of the song is upbeat.
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I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
I don't think this is always why people take it. They and many others have talked about the problems of life on the road, the high that they get onstage and the difficulty of dealing with the frustrated sensation afterwards when all that adrenaline has no place to go. Enter booze, cocaine, uppers and downers, and finally heroin.
True, but that doesn't explain the heroin use among the others I mentioned above. How great would it have been to live Robert Fraser's, Michale Cooper's or Anita's life (once Anita was free of Brian)?
I just said I didn't think that was always why people did heroin. It's different for each individual, and something else to factor in is simply current trends, and the peer pressure to follow current trends.
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I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
I don't think this is always why people take it. They and many others have talked about the problems of life on the road, the high that they get onstage and the difficulty of dealing with the frustrated sensation afterwards when all that adrenaline has no place to go. Enter booze, cocaine, uppers and downers, and finally heroin.
True, but that doesn't explain the heroin use among the others I mentioned above. How great would it have been to live Robert Fraser's, Michale Cooper's or Anita's life (once Anita was free of Brian)?
I just said I didn't think that was always why people did heroin. It's different for each individual, and something else to factor in is simply current trends, and the peer pressure to follow current trends.
Or the high is just that @#$%& good. Nobody seems to mention that. Pull that needle out, count backwards from 10. By 6 you got that fuzzy warm feeling in your crotch that just explodes a warm rush thru your body. Nothing like it.
Almost forgot about that taste in the back of your mouth letting you know you ran it good.
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You see that a lot. Stop one drug and jump to another. I did/do it with pot.
I'm glad that I never took to alcohol(too sloppy of a high), coke(rather go downtown), cigarettes(gross w/o a buzz). IMHO those 3 wreck your body. Dope will keep you looking young/healthy. Unless the street-life gets to you.
I'm thankfull for the rehabs/sub/etc when I used. I also wonder if it made it too easy to use. If things got out of control, detox/rehab/sub. Vacation next week? Oh I'm going up to camp for a few days. I never went thru what Keith did. I always got help before that stage.
I do have to say, since not using dope, life has been cake. Not without it's ups and downs, but a lot easier. The hardest part about quitting dope and then sub(was under dr supervision for the whole treatment/tapered and jumped at a very low dose) was after the acute w/d symptoms and paws, it's the staying clean through this newfound boredom that you didn't have while using. .
I'm not going to preach, but if you are using and want to quit. The thought of w/d is worse then the actual w/d. Also if you are thinking about quitting. Try to get in shape. It will help.
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I always felt it was about the milieu Mick found himself in. Everyone around him was using heroin - Keith, Marianne, Anita, Jimmy Miller, Robert Fraser, Michael Cooper, Tony Sanchez. At some level it must have been very strange for him, because his work ethic and drive to succeed had never changed.
I have always thought of heroin as a means of blotting out pain or of dealing with a terrible life. Yet everyone mentioned above had no reason to blot out pain - they were young, attractive people in the midst of a marvellous free environment, living lives of priviledge and pleasure. And the song addresses itself to what they were seeking in heroin, and what they were finding. It does seem to me that what was sought as a solution...became a big problem.
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YCAGWYW was written for all the setlist whiners that Mick and Keith foresaw in the future!