"Till the Next Goodbye" (1974) from It's Only Rock n' Roll is one of my favorite Stones sings. Jagger could've spent more time with lyrics, but I like the acoustic guitars, especially at the beginning. The song doesn't have a guitar solo. Where the guitar solo usually is, after the second chorus, you hear Nicky Hopkins' piano in the foreground and Taylor's slide guitar in the back. It's unusual for a Stones song.

Over the years, Stones albums have had fewer and fewer acoustic guitars, which is too bad. Keith Richards plays a beautiful acoustic guitar. The acoustic guitars on this song are especially nice.

"Till the Next Goodbye" is a sentimenal song, kind of wistful. You can tell the singer loves the girls who is the subject of the song. The lyrics could use a revision. The lovers meet on 42nd Street in NYC, a very seedy and certainly not romantic location in 1974. That "movie house on 42nd Street" would've been showing porn flicks. Then there's the business about an elderberry wine cure-all from New Orleans. The third chorus about Lousiana recipes is rather confusing. How did we get from NYC to New Orleans? The whole song could've done with better lyrics, except for the chorus.

The Stones must've flirted with the idea of the song becoming a hit, because they made a video of it (making song videos was not done often in the 1970s before MTV). I remember seeing the video on late-night TV in California in 1974. Here it is:

Love the song and clip Very bittersweet and sarcastic at the same time, IMO

Great track. A country type parody.
I like it. Yes I do!

Thuis is one of the Stones gems that gets overlooked by fans. As I wrote many moons ago on this site, there are any number of wonderful songs awaiting discovery on the Stones albums. You can only wish that the Stones themselves would re-discover these songs and mix them into their show. It would be such a change-up and tickle jaded ears no end.

Re the bit about N'Awlins and the cure all, take it as just the lyrics the way they are and flow with 'em, or look at N'Awlins and the idea of voodoo down there and the lovers trying to rediscover themselves and their love in the Quarter.

This Stones song works very well in a music mix paired with Dylan's "If You See Her, Say Hello". Both are such bittersweet lamentations, as already noted by moonlight affair, re this Stones song, over love won and lost. Bob's song also works well mixed before or after "Memory Motel" or "Out Of Tears".

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"Till the Next Goodbye" (1974) from It's Only Rock n' Roll is one of my favorite Stones sings. Jagger could've spent more time with lyrics, but I like the acoustic guitars, especially at the beginning. The song doesn't have a guitar solo. Where the guitar solo usually is, after the second chorus, you hear Nicky Hopkins' piano in the foreground and Taylor's slide guitar in the back. It's unusual for a Stones song.

Over the years, Stones albums have had fewer and fewer acoustic guitars, which is too bad. Keith Richards plays a beautiful acoustic guitar. The acoustic guitars on this song are especially nice.

"Till the Next Goodbye" is a sentimenal song, kind of wistful. You can tell the singer loves the girls who is the subject of the song. The lyrics could use a revision. The lovers meet on 42nd Street in NYC, a very seedy and certainly not romantic location in 1974. That "movie house on 42nd Street" would've been showing porn flicks. Then there's the business about an elderberry wine cure-all from New Orleans. The third chorus about Lousiana recipes is rather confusing. How did we get from NYC to New Orleans? The whole song could've done with better lyrics, except for the chorus.

The Stones must've flirted with the idea of the song becoming a hit, because they made a video of it (making song videos was not done often in the 1970s before MTV). I remember seeing the video on late-night TV in California in 1974. Here it is:

That's pretty cool; haven't seen it before. Are those live lead vocals against the IORR instrumental track, or a totally different version of the song?

Also, are there any other Stones videos where only one member's face is shown in the entire clip?

"till the next time goodbye" is another underrated stones song, it has a special atmosphere of its own and fits well into the album which is also underrated and unique.

so many hidden stones gems are unknown to non stones diehards which is a pity.

I've always had a romantic feeling that the stones would play that on the stadium in house speakers as we hustle out of the venue after a show.
Be a fitting way to say goodbye.

Isn't it Keith on slide?

Mick loses me at "any place that you would like to eat." Laziest writing ever on everyone's part. Terrible.

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Thuis is one of the Stones gems that gets overlooked by fans. As I wrote many moons ago on this site, there are any number of wonderful songs awaiting discovery on the Stones albums. You can only wish that the Stones themselves would re-discover these songs and mix them into their show. It would be such a change-up and tickle jaded ears no end.

Re the bit about N'Awlins and the cure all, take it as just the lyrics the way they are and flow with 'em, or look at N'Awlins and the idea of voodoo down there and the lovers trying to rediscover themselves and their love in the Quarter.

This Stones song works very well in a music mix paired with Dylan's "If You See Her, Say Hello". Both are such bittersweet lamentations, as already noted by moonlight affair, re this Stones song, over love won and lost. Bob's song also works well mixed before or after "Memory Motel" or "Out Of Tears".

Not overlooked by this fan, or should I say fanatic? It's in my top ten all time favorite Stones songs. I couldn't care less what lyrics they put with this song, it is just flat out beautiful!

I have chosen three songs for my funeral and this is one of them. The other two are Moonlight Mile and Winter. I want all those that knew and loved me to see the "other side" of the Stones. Most of them think of Satisfaction. What a shame.

From the book JAGGER: REBEL, ROCK STAR, RAMBLER, ROGUE by Marc Spitz:

CARLY SIMON: "We wrote a song together that became a song on the Stones' next album called TILL THE NEXT GOODBYE. I thought that that was going to be a joint venture, but I'd never heard from Mick about how he'd like me to share the royalties. It's the very least I can do to thank Mick for turning what could of been an ordinary record [YOU'RE SO VAIN on which Mick sang backing vocals] into an iconic huge song for me over the years—so, my god, let him take all of my songs and say that he wrote them."

Awful, cheap crap.

Interesting that he wrote it with Carly Simon, that actually makes sense given the song's different feel. Not a go to Stones song for me, but I've always liked it, especially all the references to NYC.

Love the melancholy feel of this track.

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Love the melancholy feel of this track.

Same here, but that's mostly why I don't listen to it very often.

Till the next Goodbye followed by Time Waits for no one....these two somgs flow together so we'll.... IORR will always be one of my favorite albums, and it was the first that I owned contemporaneously with its release. I remember seeing the stones on Don Kirshners "Rock Concert" promoting three songs. I was at some party at someone home, and when this came on the TV - the party stopped to watch the Stones on TV - that was an event!

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From the book JAGGER: REBEL, ROCK STAR, RAMBLER, ROGUE by Marc Spitz:

CARLY SIMON: "We wrote a song together that became a song on the Stones' next album called TILL THE NEXT GOODBYE. I thought that that was going to be a joint venture, but I'd never heard from Mick about how he'd like me to share the royalties. It's the very least I can do to thank Mick for turning what could of been an ordinary record [YOU'RE SO VAIN on which Mick sang backing vocals] into an iconic huge song for me over the years—so, my god, let him take all of my songs and say that he wrote them."

Yes, that's what she says, the song being an offspring of those "You're So Vain" sessions, and I have not any reason to doubt her words. Funnily, Mick Taylor is also said to have having a hand in creating the tune and asking some recognition (even though I don't remember ever seeing a direct reference to that, but I also forget things...) Which makes me wonder how such a simple, rather one-dimensional (but beautiful) song needed so many cooks... To me it sounds basically a typical Jagger song melodically based on strumming the repeated key chords, a'la "Can't Always Get What You Want", "Winter", etc. What I mean is that that it sounds like him not needing any helping hands.

But I think, like noted here above, they probably thought the song to have certain commercial appeal, in the path of "Angie". But they didn't release it as a single, even though they made that promo film for it. Probably to release another soft ballad as a leading single would have looked not fitting to their image, and also taking the nature of the album, with theme of 'It's Only Rock'n'Roll', the song would have given a wrong signal.

But a nice little catchy tune, with a non-typical atmosphere, it is. I hope we will hear its live debut soon...

- Doxa



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His Majesty
Awful, cheap crap.

I see (hear) your point.

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Isn't it Keith on slide?

Correct and also easy to hear.

I've always liked the song, it fits in nicely on the IORR album. The acoustic guitar sound is soothing and I like the chorus (especially when keith chimes in). Some of the lines in it may seem corny today, but it is not a big song on IORR.



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Whoooops!!!! I've just been informed by top-level NSA investigators that this is a counterfeit "Track Talk" thread, not the real one authored by Rene. After conferring with my lawyer on this matter, it is with a heavy heart that I must refrain from commenting on this track.

Drew

love that tune... now i can really hear the Carly Simon vibe now that i read the above post. Its an easy chord song but the sentiment and lyrical part is not an easy thing to catch. The formula is really is not unlike songs in the C.Simon canon.

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Mick loses me at "any place that you would like to eat." Laziest writing ever on everyone's part. Terrible.

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Not nearly as lazy as what came after 1990 or so.

Its a nice song. It sounds kinda unfished to me though. It doesn't fully arrive at its destination.

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counterfeit "Track Talk" thread, not the real one authored by Rene.

How did this happen ? Something happened to René ? Is he alright ?

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Great song!

It has always been one of my favorite ballads of the Stones!

And I always heard it together with "Time waits for no one", that follows directly on the album. They both connected together for me!

It's got the blues, I like that song a lot.

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I've always had a romantic feeling that the stones would play that on the stadium in house speakers as we hustle out of the venue after a show.
Be a fitting way to say goodbye.

That's what they did for "Sweet Summer Sun"! Wonder who's idea it was but I thought it worked well and was happy to hear a song that seemed to have been long forgotten. It was quite a thrill to hear them rehearse it in Bondy for the first time on Wednesday 05/02...after we struggled to figure out what they were playing. The volume was really low but a couple of us spotted the "Can Ya" part with the acoustic guitar and when we hummed it to another fan who hadn't heard it he said "that's from TTNG"!

I had no idea Carly Simon had a hand in writing it. What's odd is that she would mention "You're So Vain" when Mick never got officially credited for the Backing Vocals right? Well I suppose she means that his uncredited vocals made the song special, can't argue with that!

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Mediocre song, IMHO. I've never been a fan of the IORR record, apart from a few songs.