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I would wonder about that myself. Recorder? Yes. That sounds like Brian, picking up a different type of instrument and making some passably engaging riffs come out of it for a one-off type of thing.
But the piano on Ruby Tuesday sounds too.... accomplished, as if the player on that track had been playing regularly for years, perhaps with a bit of classical training as well, because no one played piano on rock records like that at that point in time, aside from Ray Manzarek.
The piano was always around the studio and was frequently used on Stones records for years by that point, so why would Brian have waited until the RT session to finally distinguish himself on the instrument, and at no point thereafter?
As a keys player, he seems only to have played occasional organ and mellotron, because he was more interested in electronic forms of music for keyboard playing, it would seem.
So I would say it would have to have been someone other than Brian on piano for that track. I mean, he and Keith may have messed around on the piano during the song's earlier, more rudimentary stages of development, but in the final recording the piano has the hallmark of a studio session player at the very least.
It's Keith himself, and others, who have told us Jack played piano on the track.
I think Keith might be playing the upper octaves later on in the track with Jack playing the main stuff. Or he's just merged his memories of writing it on piano and the recording of the track and Jack does it all.
No way is Keith playing the main piano.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 12:03 by His Majesty.
Thing is, the piano on Ruby Tuesday is kinda messy, it's not as professionally played as the piano on LSTNT. The dynamics are quite ham fisted. It's mostly all pretty basic stuff.
It's not on the same kind of focused level as the main piano playing on LSTNT or anywhere close to the playing of Ray Manzarek.
Yeah, I've read that too.
Yeah, I recall reading Keith saying he sat beside Jack at the piano.
The main piano really isn't very hard to play, but you may be right about Keith not playing that.
It's the playing of someone who can really play piano though, way too involved for someone who was essentially a dabbler/beginner.
It's most definitely not Keith playing the main piano.
I'm not really convinced about that...
Are you drunk or stoned or something?
Not yet...
Brian's recorder-playing looked pretty live to me, the wind in his cheeks & all.
Yah don't hear his live playing though.
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Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
mrpaulincanada
()
Date: December 6, 2013 02:29
Who is the piano player on Ruby Tuesday and on Let's Spend the Night Together?
Brian??
Brian??
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 02:34
Jack Nitzsche on Lets Spend The Night Together, Jack or Brian on Ruby Tuesday.
There is conflicting info regarding the player of the piano on Ruby Tuesday.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 02:39 by His Majesty.
There is conflicting info regarding the player of the piano on Ruby Tuesday.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 02:39 by His Majesty.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: December 6, 2013 03:24
40 Licks states Brian on recorder and piano on Ruby Tuesday. In Bill's book, he also mentions Brian playing the piano. Before reading those two quotes, I always assumed he was just playing recorder.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 03:39
The pairing of those two songs = a perfect single. 
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: December 6, 2013 03:47
Quote
His Majesty
Jack Nitzsche on Lets Spend The Night Together, Jack or Brian on Ruby Tuesday.
There is conflicting info regarding the player of the piano on Ruby Tuesday.
I would wonder about that myself. Recorder? Yes. That sounds like Brian, picking up a different type of instrument and making some passably engaging riffs come out of it for a one-off type of thing.
But the piano on Ruby Tuesday sounds too.... accomplished, as if the player on that track had been playing regularly for years, perhaps with a bit of classical training as well, because no one played piano on rock records like that at that point in time, aside from Ray Manzarek.
The piano was always around the studio and was frequently used on Stones records for years by that point, so why would Brian have waited until the RT session to finally distinguish himself on the instrument, and at no point thereafter?
As a keys player, he seems only to have played occasional organ and mellotron, because he was more interested in electronic forms of music for keyboard playing, it would seem.
So I would say it would have to have been someone other than Brian on piano for that track. I mean, he and Keith may have messed around on the piano during the song's earlier, more rudimentary stages of development, but in the final recording the piano has the hallmark of a studio session player at the very least.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
owlbynite
()
Date: December 6, 2013 09:27
Watched some of the Stones old clips on the Ed Sullivan shows from the '60s over Thanksgiving weekend & in Ruby Tuesday, Brian sat on the edge of piano stool facing audience playing recorder. Not sure who did piano-playing, almost looked like Keith!
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: December 6, 2013 09:48
But for that show, only the vocals were live, whereas the instrumentation was a pre-recorded backing track.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 6, 2013 09:50
"Yeah, I played piano on Let's Spend the Night Together, and then I overdubbed the guitar. To me that song was a progression from Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?. It was like Have You Seen Your Mother was a step toward Let's Spend the Night Together, because the chords and the structure of the song are very similar. And the fact that I'd wrote them both on piano, one was almost the same as the other".
- Keith Richards, 1982
[timeisonourside.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 10:47 by DandelionPowderman.
- Keith Richards, 1982
[timeisonourside.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 10:47 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 11:54
Quote
DandelionPowderman
"Yeah, I played piano on Let's Spend the Night Together, and then I overdubbed the guitar. To me that song was a progression from Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?. It was like Have You Seen Your Mother was a step toward Let's Spend the Night Together, because the chords and the structure of the song are very similar. And the fact that I'd wrote them both on piano, one was almost the same as the other".
- Keith Richards, 1982
[timeisonourside.com]
It's Keith himself, and others, who have told us Jack played piano on the track.
I think Keith might be playing the upper octaves later on in the track with Jack playing the main stuff. Or he's just merged his memories of writing it on piano and the recording of the track and Jack does it all.
No way is Keith playing the main piano.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-12-06 12:03 by His Majesty.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 11:59
Quote
stonehearted
But the piano on Ruby Tuesday sounds too.... accomplished, as if the player on that track had been playing regularly for years, perhaps with a bit of classical training as well, because no one played piano on rock records like that at that point in time, aside from Ray Manzarek.
Thing is, the piano on Ruby Tuesday is kinda messy, it's not as professionally played as the piano on LSTNT. The dynamics are quite ham fisted. It's mostly all pretty basic stuff.
It's not on the same kind of focused level as the main piano playing on LSTNT or anywhere close to the playing of Ray Manzarek.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 6, 2013 12:03
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
"Yeah, I played piano on Let's Spend the Night Together, and then I overdubbed the guitar. To me that song was a progression from Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?. It was like Have You Seen Your Mother was a step toward Let's Spend the Night Together, because the chords and the structure of the song are very similar. And the fact that I'd wrote them both on piano, one was almost the same as the other".
- Keith Richards, 1982
[timeisonourside.com]
It's Keith himself, and others, who have told us Jack played piano on the track.
I think Keith might be playing the upper octaves later on in the track with Jack playing the main stuff. Or he's just merged his memories of writing it on piano and the recording of the track and Jack does it all.
No way is Keith playing the main piano.
Yeah, I've read that too.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 12:14
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Yeah, I've read that too.
Yeah, I recall reading Keith saying he sat beside Jack at the piano.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 6, 2013 12:16
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
Yeah, I've read that too.
Yeah, I recall reading Keith saying he sat beside Jack at the piano.
The main piano really isn't very hard to play, but you may be right about Keith not playing that.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 12:27
Quote
DandelionPowderman
The main piano really isn't very hard to play, but you may be right about Keith not playing that.
It's the playing of someone who can really play piano though, way too involved for someone who was essentially a dabbler/beginner.
It's most definitely not Keith playing the main piano.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 6, 2013 13:14
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
The main piano really isn't very hard to play, but you may be right about Keith not playing that.
It's the playing of someone who can really play piano though, way too involved for someone who was essentially a dabbler/beginner.
It's most definitely not Keith playing the main piano.
I'm not really convinced about that...
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: December 6, 2013 15:43
Damn, I always assumed Nicky Hopkins.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 18:04
Quote
DandelionPowderman
I'm not really convinced about that...
Are you drunk or stoned or something?
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 6, 2013 18:09
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
I'm not really convinced about that...
Are you drunk or stoned or something?
Not yet...
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 6, 2013 18:25
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
His Majesty
Are you drunk or stoned or something?
Not yet...
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
owlbynite
()
Date: December 14, 2013 10:13
Quote
stonehearted
But for that show, only the vocals were live, whereas the instrumentation was a pre-recorded backing track.
Brian's recorder-playing looked pretty live to me, the wind in his cheeks & all.
Re: Piano player on LSTNT and RT
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: December 14, 2013 16:56
Quote
owlbyniteQuote
stonehearted
But for that show, only the vocals were live, whereas the instrumentation was a pre-recorded backing track.
Brian's recorder-playing looked pretty live to me, the wind in his cheeks & all.
Yah don't hear his live playing though.
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