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OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: October 2, 2013 20:13

Graham stated he's working on a new 1974 live release of CSN&Y that should sound much better than 4 Way Street from the 1970 tour. Looks like it should be out in 2014. He also has a new book out "Wild Tales", which should be an interesting read:

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Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: R ()
Date: October 2, 2013 20:32

They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: October 2, 2013 21:10

He was on Howard Stern this morning. Graham spoke about Brian Jones (he knew him) and Nash sounded supportive of Jones. He said that when the stones toured(1965) with his band The Hollies, Brian was travelling with them because he wasn't speaking with Keith and Mick.
Great interview with Howard on Sirius radio.
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: October 2, 2013 21:15

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rollmops
He was on Howard Stern this morning. Graham spoke about Brian Jones (he knew him) and Nash sounded supportive of Jones. He said that when the stones toured(1965) with his band The Hollies, Brian was travelling with them because he wasn't speaking with Keith and Mick.
Great interview with Howard on Sirius radio.
Rock and roll,
Mops

And that he met the soon to be Beatles in 1959. Nash and Alan Clark? were in a small group and they won the talent show over Johnny & The Moondogs.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: reg thorpe ()
Date: October 2, 2013 21:30

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R
They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: October 2, 2013 21:38

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rollmops
He was on Howard Stern this morning. Graham spoke about Brian Jones (he knew him) and Nash sounded supportive of Jones. He said that when the stones toured(1965) with his band The Hollies, Brian was travelling with them because he wasn't speaking with Keith and Mick.
Great interview with Howard on Sirius radio.
Rock and roll,
Mops

Yeah, I heard the interview - wish it went on for another hour. He sounded very good for 7AM and being 71 years old! He also thinks Brian was murdered. That Shady Oaks home where Stills was living is the same house that the Stones lived/practiced in 1969. The Peter Tork house...

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Des ()
Date: October 2, 2013 22:02

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They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: October 2, 2013 22:16

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Des
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R
They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

Graham just yesterday was saying on the Howard Stern show on Siris that he had 10 cuts done and the sound was very good. Maybe old Neil has come around and will let it go out. I would not think Graham would be wasting his time. Don't know!

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Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: reg thorpe ()
Date: October 2, 2013 22:54

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Des
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They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

Saw them a couple of times on this tour (Roosevelt Stadium/Jersey City and Roosevelt Raceway/Westbury) Neil showed up two songs into the show..their voices were strained from the tour

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Date: October 2, 2013 23:17

neil young can make really bad or really good decisions

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: October 2, 2013 23:37

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R
They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.
No kidding.. It's got to sound better than "Four Way"..... I saw the 74 tour but was too young to appreciate it..

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: October 2, 2013 23:47

It's the Wembley 74 show with a DVD. It was a great concert. Joni was superb as were The Band. I have the tapes somewhere.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Des ()
Date: October 3, 2013 01:14

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neil young can make really bad or really good decisions



Good or bad the one thing I love about Neil is when he walked from BS he said he would not do another project he was not in control of. I appreciate he saw the seedier side of the music biz and wanted to find his own way without the trappings. From what I read this tour was full of Neil's complaints. I saw second night, Neil gets up from the piano stating "I don't want to play the #%&$ing piano anymore" and walked to his guitar. The rest looked at each other and declaired there goes the set list. Some 30 years later you read he had fought to maintain a CSNY tradition of starting slow and acoustic building as you go. He let them do it there way one night then just tanked early into the second show....a huge screw you in public to the others. And you will find Crosby lied to us regarding his voice failure as a post opening night thing, turns out him and GN got real drunk a night before the tour and decided to sing the entire catalog, just not very responsable. Probably the worst opening song of all time, 4 electric guitars, tons of testosterone, all screaming Love the One Your With, Neil had a point.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Date: October 3, 2013 02:50

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Des
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keefriffhard4life
neil young can make really bad or really good decisions



Good or bad the one thing I love about Neil is when he walked from BS he said he would not do another project he was not in control of. I appreciate he saw the seedier side of the music biz and wanted to find his own way without the trappings. From what I read this tour was full of Neil's complaints. I saw second night, Neil gets up from the piano stating "I don't want to play the #%&$ing piano anymore" and walked to his guitar. The rest looked at each other and declaired there goes the set list. Some 30 years later you read he had fought to maintain a CSNY tradition of starting slow and acoustic building as you go. He let them do it there way one night then just tanked early into the second show....a huge screw you in public to the others. And you will find Crosby lied to us regarding his voice failure as a post opening night thing, turns out him and GN got real drunk a night before the tour and decided to sing the entire catalog, just not very responsable. Probably the worst opening song of all time, 4 electric guitars, tons of testosterone, all screaming Love the One Your With, Neil had a point.

neil has been known to make changes though that hurt projects. go look at the songs he had cut from american dream and looking forward and what he had added. really go look. there are early tracklistings of both in a thread on the steve hoffman forum. just a heads up the worst track on looking forward "queen of them all" was a track neil got put on the album and forced the band to drop "climber" and a few other gems from the album.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: October 3, 2013 02:58

Neil Young is a great artist and an interesting guy and all that, but I can't understand bailing on gigs because you're not feeling it. It's called "professionalism." Whatever the Stones' quirks and weak points may be, that is something they always understood, as far as I can tell. Well other than making us wait a lot.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: October 3, 2013 07:24

A new 1974 album. I suppose it beats working on a new 2014 album, if you are not particularly inclined.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Jah Paul ()
Date: October 3, 2013 09:04

I couldn't remember the details of how Neil bailed on Stephen during their "Stills-Young Band" tour in '76, so here's the copy & paste...

The Stills-Young Band, comprising Stills' current touring band behind the pair, began a tour in 1976 prior to the album's release. The tour commenced in Clarkston, Michigan on June 23, but after nine dates Young dropped out after July 18 via a laconic telegram to Stills, forcing Stills to complete the concert tour solo through October. The telegram read: "Dear Stephen, funny how some things that start spontaneously end that way. Eat a peach. Neil."

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: October 3, 2013 09:54

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2000 LYFH
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rollmops
He was on Howard Stern this morning. Graham spoke about Brian Jones (he knew him) and Nash sounded supportive of Jones. He said that when the stones toured(1965) with his band The Hollies, Brian was travelling with them because he wasn't speaking with Keith and Mick.
Great interview with Howard on Sirius radio.
Rock and roll,
Mops

Yeah, I heard the interview - wish it went on for another hour. He sounded very good for 7AM and being 71 years old! He also thinks Brian was murdered. That Shady Oaks home where Stills was living is the same house that the Stones lived/practiced in 1969. The Peter Tork house...

The Howard interview was incredible this morning. God I could have listened to Graham for another 3 hours. Highly encouraged for anyone thats a fan of any of his music.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: NoCode0680 ()
Date: October 3, 2013 10:36

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Des
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reg thorpe
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R
They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

I'd buy that if it weren't for "Road Rock Vol. 1", the worst sound I've ever heard out of a live album that wasn't an unofficial bootleg recorded by a stoned hippy with his boom mike accidentally pointed towards himself.

Neil's a great guy, but he's full of shit. But people buy his bullshit hook line and sinker. And I think he probably sees the comedy in it more than anybody.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Date: October 3, 2013 10:51

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NoCode0680
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Des
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reg thorpe
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R
They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

I'd buy that if it weren't for "Road Rock Vol. 1", the worst sound I've ever heard out of a live album that wasn't an unofficial bootleg recorded by a stoned hippy with his boom mike accidentally pointed towards himself.

Neil's a great guy, but he's full of shit. But people buy his bullshit hook line and sinker. And I think he probably sees the comedy in it more than anybody.

i mentioned this on here before but if you look at neils high points as far as album sales are concerned he always seemed to use crosby, stills and nash and crazy horse to boost his popularity when his sales were declining. trot out a tour or album with these guys and then dump them to reap the sales increases

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: October 3, 2013 11:11

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NoCode0680
Neil's a great guy, but he's full of shit. But people buy his bullshit hook line and sinker. And I think he probably sees the comedy in it more than anybody.

There's certainly a touch of comedy there, but I think it takes someone else to see it....





....since Neil doesn't seem to be the happiest type of person to begin with....







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Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: TippyToe ()
Date: October 3, 2013 22:25

Nash interview on Stern show:




Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: October 4, 2013 01:46

Interesting listen. Thanks for sharing the Nash interview. I'm not holding my breath until this comes out though. Neil could still put the mockers on...

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: October 4, 2013 16:55

A fun listen..thanks for sharing..I do want to read the book. But I think his characterization of Brian as pretty much a blues purist doesn't factor in how wide-ranging his interests were..

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: PammyB ()
Date: October 4, 2013 22:04

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Des
Probably the worst opening song of all time, 4 electric guitars, tons of testosterone, all screaming Love the One Your With.

A regular sausage fest, eh?

I have been hearing about this "upcoming" Live '74 release for at least three years now. Maybe *this time* it's for real -- LOL.


Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: jjo ()
Date: October 4, 2013 23:11

That was Fantastic.. an hour well spent !!

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: owlbynite ()
Date: October 7, 2013 06:51

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Des
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They've been talking about that '74 set for years. Kee-riste, I hope I live long enough to hear it. I saw that tour.

From what I've read Neil Young is the stumbling block to getting the album released as it doesn't live up to his expectations



I too saw this tour. Have bought a dvd of one performance of it with JM, very bad sound. Now Neil being the recording nut (justifiably) I could see him not being happy with the raw material, the sound was pretty poor for this tour.

I'd buy that if it weren't for "Road Rock Vol. 1", the worst sound I've ever heard out of a live album that wasn't an unofficial bootleg recorded by a stoned hippy with his boom mike accidentally pointed towards himself.

Neil's a great guy, but he's full of shit. But people buy his bullshit hook line and sinker. And I think he probably sees the comedy in it more than anybody.

i mentioned this on here before but if you look at neils high points as far as album sales are concerned he always seemed to use crosby, stills and nash and crazy horse to boost his popularity when his sales were declining. trot out a tour or album with these guys and then dump them to reap the sales increases
Always got impression Neil Young was difficult to get along with and a prima donna. Always loved Graham Nash's vocals. smiling bouncing smiley

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: October 7, 2013 08:50

The times I met him (he was a regular at the the place I used to wrok at), he was ALWAYS embarassed about the Hollies. I got to talk to him about the harmonies in Carrie Anne, but he was reluctant even to do that. Nice guy, though.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: October 7, 2013 09:52

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tomk
The times I met him (he was a regular at the the place I used to wrok at), he was ALWAYS embarassed about the Hollies. I got to talk to him about the harmonies in Carrie Anne, but he was reluctant even to do that. Nice guy, though.

Are you sure he was embarrassed? Because he did take part in the 1983 regrouping of the original line-up for an album and tour and he did participate with interviews in the 2011 DVD documentary Look Through Any Window.

Perhaps he was instead resentful? He mentions in the Stern interview that he left over creative differences after they refused to do King Midas in Reverse and Marrakesh Express, because they just wanted to be "content" and record hits.

Re: OT: Graham Nash - New CSN&Y 1974 live album and new book: Wild Tales
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: October 7, 2013 10:53

Lots of CSN activity for me. I'm off to see David Crosby record a questions and answers session with the BBC tonight in London; tomorrow I see CSNM in concert attrhe Royal Albert Hall and I've just got a signed copy of Nash's book.
But bring on that 74 set ASAP.

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