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TeddyB1018
That's why we don't see an El Mocambo bootleg series release.
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schwonek
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Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
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Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
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RollingFreak
I love Ya Yas but I have to imagine there's quite a bit of overdubbing. I'm not very good at pointing that stuff out, but it all sounds REALLY good and I kind of question the whole thing when there's proof of at least a few overdubs. I still listen to the album and think "it might be a bit doctored, but its still epic". Hell, I love Kiss's Alive album and the whole thing is nearly overdubbed and not live. But when I hear some of the really great stuff on Ya Ya's, I have to assume it was pretty heavily overdubbed, at least by Richards.
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
Well, this is not entirely correct. Take Crackin' Up, for instance, there is no doubt that Ronnie added one or two guitars there - but the original three guitar tracks we hear on the bootleg are kept on the LYL-album.
I can't really hear any guitar overdubs on Mannish Boy or LRR? Maybe one on the latter...
The solo on UMT (Still Life) is the original Keith-solo, albeit the mixing is very clever, making it sound a bit better.
I love Keith's backing vocals on Tumbling Dice (LYL). Something he never did live ever
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shawnriffhard1
According to ChrisM--[www.rollingstonesnet.com]
3. Stray Cat Blues: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed. Two musical "markers" were identified. Missing Turnaround Verse #4 ("It's no hangin' mat-tar..."). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st. This is noted due to the "Champaign Variation", which is a close approximation to "Ya-Ya's" lyrics, and therefore a possibility in a live '69 performance.
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
Well, this is not entirely correct. Take Crackin' Up, for instance, there is no doubt that Ronnie added one or two guitars there - but the original three guitar tracks we hear on the bootleg are kept on the LYL-album.
I can't really hear any guitar overdubs on Mannish Boy or LRR? Maybe one on the latter...
The solo on UMT (Still Life) is the original Keith-solo, albeit the mixing is very clever, making it sound a bit better.
I love Keith's backing vocals on Tumbling Dice (LYL). Something he never did live ever
The El Mocambo boot partially was taken from an official acetate which already included overdubs. Cracking Up would have 2 guitars live, not three for example. On Mannish Boy parts of Wood's licks and slide are overdubbed, as is the harmonica. I doubt Around & Around has guitar overdubs though.
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Mathijs
The El Mocambo boot partially was taken from an official acetate which already included overdubs. Cracking Up would have 2 guitars live, not three for example. On Mannish Boy parts of Wood's licks and slide are overdubbed, as is the harmonica. I doubt Around & Around has guitar overdubs though.
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shawnriffhard1
According to ChrisM--[www.rollingstonesnet.com]
3. Stray Cat Blues: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed. Two musical "markers" were identified. Missing Turnaround Verse #4 ("It's no hangin' mat-tar..."). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st. This is noted due to the "Champaign Variation", which is a close approximation to "Ya-Ya's" lyrics, and therefore a possibility in a live '69 performance.
As mentioned to Chris many, many times: Stray Cat is NOT from Baltimore, but New York 28th 1st show.
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Mack Jigger
For those who want to know everything about Love You Live, the Jagger phrase "tune your marimbas to that if you can" after Happy is from the first show at the Zuiderpark in The Hague, Holland May 29.
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
As has been discovered Ya Ya's does have guitar overdubs: Taylor's rhythm guitar on Little Queenie and most likely Carol has been overdubbed by Richards.
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
As has been discovered Ya Ya's does have guitar overdubs: Taylor's rhythm guitar on Little Queenie and most likely Carol has been overdubbed by Richards.
Mathijs
Says you.
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1967fan
I hope this is not too off topic.. From the crowd noise on FLashpoint you can hear a lady say " paint it black, paint it black you devil" just before PIB begins. Is this not tacked from either guyy out or the GImmie Shelter movie?
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1967fan
I hope this is not too off topic.. From the crowd noise on FLashpoint you can hear a lady say " paint it black, paint it black you devil" just before PIB begins. Is this not tacked from either guyy out or the GImmie Shelter movie?
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
As has been discovered Ya Ya's does have guitar overdubs: Taylor's rhythm guitar on Little Queenie and most likely Carol has been overdubbed by Richards.
Mathijs
Says you.
Wot? It was discovered by somebody on this board, certainly not me, that Taylor's LQ rhythm guitar on the video was different to the Ya Ya's version, and later on that Taylor always played a different rhythm guitar on Carol live than what has ended up on Ya Ya's. (note, this also make me believe JJF has a fiddled with rhytm guitar).
Mathijs
Aha, there it is, it was Straycat73 who discovered it.
[www.iorr.org]
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schwonek
Ok, someone sent me this one:
[www.iorr.org]
and...
Date: August 7, 2009 16:10
In all reality Ya-Ya's, LYL and Still Life do NOT have that many overdubs. Yes, most vocals were redone, there's editing of songs to make them a bit shorter as long jams often don't work on a live record, but as far as guitar overdubs are concerned there really aren't that many done. Ya-Ya's has NO guitar overdubs at all, side 1, 2 and 4 of LYY has NO guitar overdubs I can think of, Still Life has only a few (Shattered and Let's Spend in the middle 8, and the solo of UMT always sounds suspicious to me).
The only live recording that actually is truly reworked is the recording that we all praise so much: El Mocambo. The (six+) guitars of Mannish Boy, Cracking Up and LRR are all done in the studio, the harmonica is redone, vocals are redone, and there's added piano as well.
Mathijs
As has been discovered Ya Ya's does have guitar overdubs: Taylor's rhythm guitar on Little Queenie and most likely Carol has been overdubbed by Richards.
Mathijs
Says you.
Wot? It was discovered by somebody on this board, certainly not me, that Taylor's LQ rhythm guitar on the video was different to the Ya Ya's version, and later on that Taylor always played a different rhythm guitar on Carol live than what has ended up on Ya Ya's. (note, this also make me believe JJF has a fiddled with rhytm guitar).
Mathijs
Aha, there it is, it was Straycat73 who discovered it.
[www.iorr.org]
Did Taylor play on YaYa's anyhow?