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Brian sure was a man of style. Mesmerizing to watch him in the old videos.
I don't get it. He wasn't attractive to me at all. Not only was he abusive to women, he anally raped Nico, which is in her autobiography. The guy had issues. I can't get past that side of him. I also think the Mick Taylor-era Stones are the BEST.
You wouldn't have had that era had Brian been in any way different to how he actually was. It's not the true Rolling Stones though.
Your stance is understandable, but if people allow such things get in the way of music a lot of albums need to be thrown out of people's music collections because the world of music is full of total bastards and bitches.
You ought to also consider Jagger assaulting a woman, which he didn't deny. Getting aggressive with Marianne. Keith firing gun in a room full of people. Keith pointing a gun at someone's face. Bill banging a 13/14 year old.
well stated on all points, HM. Gypsy 18, getting past the bad sides of those who exhibit sick bi-polar type abusive behaviors is not easy, be glad you don't live with some, but many of them achieve brilliance in their fields. Also feel Brian's loss of his baby sister in childhood contributed to his screwed-up personality. Have never heard anyone who has gone thru that say they emerged unscathed.
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Brian sure was a man of style. Mesmerizing to watch him in the old videos.
I don't get it. He wasn't attractive to me at all. Not only was he abusive to women, he anally raped Nico, which is in her autobiography. The guy had issues. I can't get past that side of him. I also think the Mick Taylor-era Stones are the BEST.
You wouldn't have had that era had Brian been in any way different to how he actually was. It's not the true Rolling Stones though.
Your stance is understandable, but if people allow such things get in the way of music a lot of albums need to be thrown out of people's music collections because the world of music is full of total bastards and bitches.
You ought to also consider Jagger assaulting a woman, which he didn't deny. Getting aggressive with Marianne. Keith firing gun in a room full of people. Keith pointing a gun at someone's face. Bill banging a 13/14 year old.
well stated on all points, HM. Gypsy 18, getting past the bad sides of those who exhibit sick bi-polar type abusive behaviors is not easy, be glad you don't live with some, but many of them achieve brilliance in their fields. Also feel Brian's loss of his baby sister in childhood contributed to his screwed-up personality. Have never heard anyone who has gone thru that say they emerged unscathed.
I was raised by a bipolar mother. I don't have to get past Brian's abusive behavior, and I never will
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Then what was found?
Buy the book and find out.
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I was raised by a bipolar mother. I don't have to get past Brian's abusive behavior, and I never will
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Yes, poor Dawn. She had been violated in so many ways.
The first time, from her first son being ripped from her. That was a wound one can never overcome as a mother. The next wound was from this man (the first offspring) admitted to me he wanted to hurt her in every way. And you know what? HE DID! Violence is his middle name. Slander, Lies and Cheating is an everyday thing for Dawn's son. If Bipolar disorder is a genetic disorder, then I believe her son fully encompassed that from Brian. This is coming from an individual who has known him for many years.
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Sorry, His Majesty.
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How could a Spanish hotel manager possibly know who that (alleged) melodramatic-sounding phone call was intended for, and why would anybody complain to the hotel manager about the phone calls they're receiving? Why would the manager apologize on behalf of the hotel about a third-party phone call? Why--oh never mind! (I guess the only possible response is "read the book." )
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How could a Spanish hotel manager possibly know who that (alleged) melodramatic-sounding phone call was intended for, and why would anybody complain to the hotel manager about the phone calls they're receiving? Why would the manager apologize on behalf of the hotel about a third-party phone call? Why--oh never mind! (I guess the only possible response is "read the book." )
If I received threatening phone calls while a guest at a hotel, I'd complain to management.
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How could a Spanish hotel manager possibly know who that (alleged) melodramatic-sounding phone call was intended for, and why would anybody complain to the hotel manager about the phone calls they're receiving? Why would the manager apologize on behalf of the hotel about a third-party phone call? Why--oh never mind! (I guess the only possible response is "read the book." )
If I received threatening phone calls while a guest at a hotel, I'd complain to management.
Why management? You'd call the cops, maybe, but what has the hotel got to do with somebody calling and making threats? They just happen to own the place that's being called. If you got a threatening phone call while you were at my house, you wouldn't hold me responsible (I hope!).
It's hard to believe that phone call ever actually happened anyway--it sounds like a bad B-movie.
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How could a Spanish hotel manager possibly know who that (alleged) melodramatic-sounding phone call was intended for, and why would anybody complain to the hotel manager about the phone calls they're receiving? Why would the manager apologize on behalf of the hotel about a third-party phone call? Why--oh never mind! (I guess the only possible response is "read the book." )
If I received threatening phone calls while a guest at a hotel, I'd complain to management.
Why management? You'd call the cops, maybe, but what has the hotel got to do with somebody calling and making threats? They just happen to own the place that's being called. If you got a threatening phone call while you were at my house, you wouldn't hold me responsible (I hope!).
It's hard to believe that phone call ever actually happened anyway--it sounds like a bad B-movie.
Calls thru switchboard traceable. Having been a crime reporter in Chicago, I know police are pleased for any information your legwork has garnered. Do not expect them to take the bull by the horns, YOU take the initiative to get the job done. Start at the base: origination of the threatening phone calls. Then hand them your information & let them run with it.Quote
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OK, true, back in the day the calls would have gone through a switchboard (they didn't have caller ID then, mind you, but I suppose they would still have been traceable). I think you'd probably still have been more likely to call the police if you got a call threatening to off you, but in any case it's probably moot as I'm highly dubious this call ever happened.
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How could a Spanish hotel manager possibly know who that (alleged) melodramatic-sounding phone call was intended for, and why would anybody complain to the hotel manager about the phone calls they're receiving? Why would the manager apologize on behalf of the hotel about a third-party phone call? Why--oh never mind! (I guess the only possible response is "read the book." )
If I received threatening phone calls while a guest at a hotel, I'd complain to management.
Why management? You'd call the cops, maybe, but what has the hotel got to do with somebody calling and making threats? They just happen to own the place that's being called. If you got a threatening phone call while you were at my house, you wouldn't hold me responsible (I hope!).
It's hard to believe that phone call ever actually happened anyway--it sounds like a bad B-movie.
But, he did contact police, and that's why we have an account of it now.
An English businessman with the surname Jones contacted the police because he stayed at a hotel in Spain, some time before Brian died, and received a threatening phone call one night. Brian was staying at the same hotel it turned out and apparently the phone call was put through to the wrong Mr Jones…
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