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Really guys, you folks who are naming late 60s, 70s, 80s, stars they all go back to the source, leather rockers of the 50s and garage rock of the 60s. A whole group of seedy bad boys who upset the status quo and stormed the psyche of the youth, and terrified parents. And a lot of the modern punk music is based on the simplicity of 50s rock. Gene Vincent was a bad ass...
But it is important to remember that Punk Rock was inspired by the great garage rock of the early and mid 60s. A lot of those bands would be the first full fledged punk bands. The Kingsman and Louie Louie was a definite template for all things punk.

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JT actually hated being called a punk and hated it when his music was referred to as punk rock. He always said he played rock & roll

Check out the interview, linked below, starting at 10:25 and you can hear him say it yourself (sorry, I'm new here and couldn't figure how to embed the vids directly into this post)

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He also strongly rejects being labeled punk in another interview, linked below, at 00:45 (and he speaks about how Keith influenced him and Chuck influenced Keith, etc, at 4:33).

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I'm a JT fan, and you obviously have much affection for him as well, but If he were here, I don't think he'd appreciate being promoted as the 1st punk rocker. That said, I love all the great pics you've posted

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SquealingTea

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Come On
It's Johnny...

JT actually hated being called a punk and hated it when his music was referred to as punk rock. He always said he played rock & roll

Check out the interview, linked below, starting at 10:25 and you can hear him say it yourself (sorry, I'm new here and couldn't figure how to embed the vids directly into this post)

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He also strongly rejects being labeled punk in another interview, linked below, at 00:45 (and he speaks about how Keith influenced him and Chuck influenced Keith, etc, at 4:33).

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I'm a JT fan, and you obviously have much affection for him as well, but If he were here, I don't think he'd appreciate being promoted as the 1st punk rocker. That said, I love all the great pics you've posted

I wouldn't like to be called a Punk either..but he's style is copied by the punkers even if he preferred to be called rock-artist which he naturally also is...He never played in a pure punk-band

True, his style/look & FU attitude influenced punks. Several British punk musicians cite Johnny's appearance w/ the Dolls in 73 on the Old Grey Whistle Test (in his black leather skull jacket & trousers w/ ever-present sneer) as a big inspiration. However, his music was raw rock & roll (as you say above,"He never played in a pure punk-band" ). By the same token, His Dolls-era style was copied even more so by tons of 80's hair metal bands, but Johnny was certainly not a hair metaler, either. His style/persona influenced punk & metal bands, but his own music was not of either genre. He said he wasn't a punk & he should know - I believe him. Just my opinion, of course!

Long story longer, JT was not the first punk rocker, but he did heavily inspire my ventriloquist dummy, Danny Doll, who IS the first punk rocker





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Easy question... Hank Williams.

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franzk
Patti Smith Quotes:

"I think Mozart was a punk rocker. It's a state of mind."

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A Keith Richards copycat can't possibly be the first punk rocker. Then Keith has to be the first.

btw copying what? Hardly Keiths way to play...and Keith copyed Little Richard and Little Richard copyed afafasfa and so on...it's the music that counts and Johnny Thunders was the first punk rocker! Maclaren even told his guys to watch what Dolls were doin....

Actually, Maclaren got the safety pin clothes and spiky hair idea from Richard Meyers aka Richard Hell, when he saw Hell in the band Television during his stay in New York. Also, the future Marky Ramone (Marc Bell) used to play drums for the Voidoids, a band also comprised of the great Robert Quine, who later played with Lou Reed. Hell was also in an early lineup of The Heartbreakers. He was also in an early 70s band called Neon Boys (which also included Tom Verlaine, before they formed Television in 1973).


Richard Hell in 1979 from the movie Blank Generation.

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A Keith Richards copycat can't possibly be the first punk rocker. Then Keith has to be the first.

btw copying what? Hardly Keiths way to play...and Keith copyed Little Richard and Little Richard copyed afafasfa and so on...it's the music that counts and Johnny Thunders was the first punk rocker! Maclaren even told his guys to watch what Dolls were doin....

Actually, Maclaren got the safety pin clothes and spiky hair idea from Richard Meyers aka Richard Hell, when he saw Hell in the band Television during his stay in New York. Also, the future Marky Ramone (Marc Bell) used to play drums for the Voidoids, a band also comprised of the great Robert Quine, who later played with Lou Reed. Hell was also in an early lineup of The Heartbreakers. He was also in an early 70s band called Neon Boys (which also included Tom Verlaine, before they formed Television in 1973).


Richard Hell in 1979 from the movie Blank Generation.

I'd give an arm and leg to see the movie "Blank Generation" (well, maybe a finger nail). The Voidoids were a great band.

Jerry Lee Lewis, Link Ray and arguably Frank Sinatra played into the wild man rebel image of a Punk Rocker LONG before any of these later disciples of the genre.