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Exactly, gadz.
Chinese Rocks was entirely and solely written by Dee Dee Ramone and Richard Hell. So that's not much left for poor Johnny... Maybe the "So Alone" album?
He was a skilled guitarist and he was lucky to have a GREAT drummer behind him : Jerry Nolan. Check Johnny's Nolan-less 1980/90's tapes : they suck.
Nonsense-there's lots of great Nolan-less audio from the 80's and, album-wise, Que Sera Sera and Copycats (great covers album) from '85 and '88 are both outstanding and neither feature Nolan. From '84 on, especially, after he cleaned up somewhat, Johnny had some pretty kick-ass players with him most of the time (and sometimes that included Jerry). Having said that, I love Jerry Nolan's drumming.
Also, it's generally acknowledged that JT wrote the instrumental bridge in Chinese Rocks. I've always found that song kind of overrated, anyway. He wrote a lot of great, and often poignant, songs that were better than that.
I'm a huge JT fan and I would argue if all he ever did was play on the two original Dolls albums he would still have cemented his place in the pantheon of most innovative (try imitating his sound!) and influential rock 'n' roll guitar players.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-27 22:59 by andrewm.
JT being poignant in the 80s
You don't say? ><
Okay let's now apply a marxist view to JT :
Take this Karl Marx text and you'll notice Keith Richards is the 1st occurence in history (aka the grandiose historical one) and Jt is the second (aka the parody or the buffoon).
Your constant use of emoticons is quite tiresome.
HAHAHAH - Then how come I love his music - I dont care about his haircuts or drug habits, - I dont care about Eddie Cochrans or Gene Vincent's drinking either -but I do love 50's simple rock n roll and that's what Johnny Thunders was doing - he was the 70's punk rock Eddie Cochran....and in many ways same as the early Stones or the Some Girls era Stones - just good old simple, back to basics, raw n roll.
(...but then again, I think Pink Floyd is the worst band in rock history - just crappy music for old pot smoking hippie grandfathers in their retirement homes. I think Pink Floyd is music for 100 year old hippies who value Sid's mental health issues over rock n roll)
><
Here's a blues song from Johnny:
It might amuse you to know that Pink Floyd started out in the mid-60s playing R&B and Stones covers. The band name comes from two obscure U.S. blues men--Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.
The first song they recorded in 1965 as a 5-piece, Lucy Leave, sounds closer to The Stones than to what we have come to know as Pink Floyd.
Pink Floyd's 1965 lineup that featured Bob Klose (second from right) on lead guitar.
David Gilmour can rock out with the best of them--here's a clip of Gilmour standing in with The Pretty Things during a performance of their album SF Sorrow at Abbey Road Studios in 1998.
Here's a track each from Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.
And here's Pink Floyd doing a bit of the blues from the More film soundtrack, the track More Blues from 1969.
Well, Johnny was a man for awhile, but it's most likely god doesn't exist.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: April 27, 2013 20:53
- Yo, Gimme Some Reverb !!
Am I the only one here who loves the late Johnny Thunders ??
Feel free to speak up ! and all you scumbags who hate Johnny - feel free to join this party too !!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-27 21:00 by seitan.
Am I the only one here who loves the late Johnny Thunders ??
Feel free to speak up ! and all you scumbags who hate Johnny - feel free to join this party too !!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-27 21:00 by seitan.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
strettonbull
()
Date: April 27, 2013 21:00
Seitan - The guy is a legend. He wrote some terrific songs which didn't give him the success they deserved.
There's some stuff I uploaded to the Stones Vault that may interest you.
PM me if you want to trade anything JT related.
There's some stuff I uploaded to the Stones Vault that may interest you.
PM me if you want to trade anything JT related.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: April 27, 2013 21:09
Utter shite.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
JMARKO
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Date: April 27, 2013 21:40
Chatterbox. Chinese Rocks.
Enough for legend right there.
Being in The New York Dolls only seals it.
Enough for legend right there.
Being in The New York Dolls only seals it.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
muenke
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Date: April 27, 2013 21:43
No!
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
RollingFreak
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Date: April 27, 2013 21:45
Duff McKagen from Guns N Roses f*%king loves the guy.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: April 27, 2013 21:55
Quote
RollingFreak
Duff McKagen from Guns N Roses f*%king loves the guy.
Exactly, gadz.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
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Date: April 27, 2013 22:09
Somebody posted a cool video of Johnny with the Heartbreakers gig at Max's Kansas City in 1979.
[www.youtube.com]
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
dcba
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Date: April 27, 2013 22:32
Quote
JMARKO
Chatterbox. Chinese Rocks.
Enough for legend right there.
Being in The New York Dolls only seals it.
Chinese Rocks was entirely and solely written by Dee Dee Ramone and Richard Hell. So that's not much left for poor Johnny... Maybe the "So Alone" album?
He was a skilled guitarist and he was lucky to have a GREAT drummer behind him : Jerry Nolan. Check Johnny's Nolan-less 1980/90's tapes : they suck.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
andrewm
()
Date: April 27, 2013 22:58
Quote
dcbaQuote
JMARKO
Chatterbox. Chinese Rocks.
Enough for legend right there.
Being in The New York Dolls only seals it.
Chinese Rocks was entirely and solely written by Dee Dee Ramone and Richard Hell. So that's not much left for poor Johnny... Maybe the "So Alone" album?
He was a skilled guitarist and he was lucky to have a GREAT drummer behind him : Jerry Nolan. Check Johnny's Nolan-less 1980/90's tapes : they suck.
Nonsense-there's lots of great Nolan-less audio from the 80's and, album-wise, Que Sera Sera and Copycats (great covers album) from '85 and '88 are both outstanding and neither feature Nolan. From '84 on, especially, after he cleaned up somewhat, Johnny had some pretty kick-ass players with him most of the time (and sometimes that included Jerry). Having said that, I love Jerry Nolan's drumming.
Also, it's generally acknowledged that JT wrote the instrumental bridge in Chinese Rocks. I've always found that song kind of overrated, anyway. He wrote a lot of great, and often poignant, songs that were better than that.
I'm a huge JT fan and I would argue if all he ever did was play on the two original Dolls albums he would still have cemented his place in the pantheon of most innovative (try imitating his sound!) and influential rock 'n' roll guitar players.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-27 22:59 by andrewm.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: April 27, 2013 23:02
Quote
andrewmQuote
dcbaQuote
JMARKO
Chatterbox. Chinese Rocks.
Enough for legend right there.
Being in The New York Dolls only seals it.
Chinese Rocks was entirely and solely written by Dee Dee Ramone and Richard Hell. So that's not much left for poor Johnny... Maybe the "So Alone" album?
He was a skilled guitarist and he was lucky to have a GREAT drummer behind him : Jerry Nolan. Check Johnny's Nolan-less 1980/90's tapes : they suck.
Nonsense-there's lots of great Nolan-less audio from the 80's and, album-wise, Que Sera Sera and Copycats (great covers album) from '85 and '88 are both outstanding and neither feature Nolan. From '84 on, especially, after he cleaned up somewhat, Johnny had some pretty kick-ass players with him most of the time (and sometimes that included Jerry). Having said that, I love Jerry Nolan's drumming.
Also, it's generally acknowledged that JT wrote the instrumental bridge in Chinese Rocks. I've always found that song kind of overrated, anyway. He wrote a lot of great, and often poignant, songs that were better than that.
I'm a huge JT fan and I would argue if all he ever did was play on the two original Dolls albums he would still have cemented his place in the pantheon of most innovative (try imitating his sound!) and influential rock 'n' roll guitar players.
JT being poignant in the 80s
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: April 27, 2013 23:36
Quote
andrewm
I'm a huge JT fan
You don't say? >
<Okay let's now apply a marxist view to JT :
Take this Karl Marx text and you'll notice Keith Richards is the 1st occurence in history (aka the grandiose historical one) and Jt is the second (aka the parody or the buffoon).
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: April 28, 2013 01:25
chatterbox
Looking For Johnny, The Legend of Johnny Thunders.
Directed by Danny Garcia (The Rise and Fall of The Clash),
Looking For Johnny is the definitive documentary
on New York Dolls legendary guitarist.
Looking For Johnny, The Legend of Johnny Thunders.
Directed by Danny Garcia (The Rise and Fall of The Clash),
Looking For Johnny is the definitive documentary
on New York Dolls legendary guitarist.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
its good to be anywhere
()
Date: April 28, 2013 01:29
+1Quote
His Majesty
Utter shite.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
WorriedAboutYou
()
Date: April 28, 2013 01:39
Beyond awful. Music for people who value drug addictions and haircuts over musical ability.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
andrewm
()
Date: April 28, 2013 01:49
Quote
dcbaQuote
andrewm
I'm a huge JT fan
You don't say? >
Okay let's now apply a marxist view to JT :
Take this Karl Marx text and you'll notice Keith Richards is the 1st occurence in history (aka the grandiose historical one) and Jt is the second (aka the parody or the buffoon).
Your constant use of emoticons is quite tiresome.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: April 28, 2013 02:23
Quote
WorriedAboutYou
Beyond awful. Music for people who value drug addictions and haircuts over musical ability.
HAHAHAH - Then how come I love his music - I dont care about his haircuts or drug habits, - I dont care about Eddie Cochrans or Gene Vincent's drinking either -but I do love 50's simple rock n roll and that's what Johnny Thunders was doing - he was the 70's punk rock Eddie Cochran....and in many ways same as the early Stones or the Some Girls era Stones - just good old simple, back to basics, raw n roll.
(...but then again, I think Pink Floyd is the worst band in rock history - just crappy music for old pot smoking hippie grandfathers in their retirement homes. I think Pink Floyd is music for 100 year old hippies who value Sid's mental health issues over rock n roll)
>
<Here's a blues song from Johnny:
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
johnnythunders
()
Date: April 28, 2013 02:32
No
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: April 28, 2013 02:48
Quote
seitan
Pink Floyd is the worst band in rock history - just crappy music for old pot smoking hippie grandfathers in their retirement homes. I think Pink Floyd is music for 100 year old hippies who value Sid's mental health issues over rock n roll)
It might amuse you to know that Pink Floyd started out in the mid-60s playing R&B and Stones covers. The band name comes from two obscure U.S. blues men--Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.
The first song they recorded in 1965 as a 5-piece, Lucy Leave, sounds closer to The Stones than to what we have come to know as Pink Floyd.
Pink Floyd's 1965 lineup that featured Bob Klose (second from right) on lead guitar.
David Gilmour can rock out with the best of them--here's a clip of Gilmour standing in with The Pretty Things during a performance of their album SF Sorrow at Abbey Road Studios in 1998.
Here's a track each from Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.
And here's Pink Floyd doing a bit of the blues from the More film soundtrack, the track More Blues from 1969.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
TMONTANA
()
Date: April 28, 2013 02:54
Johnny Thunders was the man,God Bless him....
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 28, 2013 02:58
Quote
TMONTANA
Johnny Thunders was the man,God Bless him....
Well, Johnny was a man for awhile, but it's most likely god doesn't exist.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
MILKYWAY
()
Date: April 28, 2013 03:08
I don't know much about Johnny Thunders but if he went to see the Stones in 1969, he can't be all bad.
EDIT: strettonbull, can you please post a link to what you put up on the Stones Vault?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-28 03:17 by MILKYWAY.
EDIT: strettonbull, can you please post a link to what you put up on the Stones Vault?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-28 03:17 by MILKYWAY.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
TMONTANA
()
Date: April 28, 2013 03:22
Nice one HM,Still loved JT...Quote
His MajestyQuote
TMONTANA
Johnny Thunders was the man,God Bless him....
Well, Johnny was a man for awhile, but it's most likely god doesn't exist.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 28, 2013 03:23
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: April 28, 2013 06:20
No wonder this place can be such a draaaaag, man. JT was fabulous. David Jo is one of my five favorite vocalists. They weren't the Stones, but they were real and they were a blast. Rock and roll, baby.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: April 28, 2013 06:27
NYC in the 70's wouldn't be the same without them....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-28 06:34 by Rip This.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-28 06:34 by Rip This.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
Wry Cooter
()
Date: April 28, 2013 09:38
On the one hand he represents what I loathe about the 70s NYC Rock scene -- too much too cool for school and too much heroin. On the other hand he was part of some great tracks. As in music.
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
tommyquinn
()
Date: April 28, 2013 10:08
Johnny Thunders WAS great, but he bought into his own legend and as a result, became sort-of a parody of himself...(hmmm, sound familiar?). Heroin probably destroyed his life, but the early stuff- i.e. Dolls, early Hearbreakers- classic. I grew up with the Stones and the Dolls, still love them both. Both have disappointed me at times, both could be maddeningly frustrating, but it's kind of like unconditional love- no matter what they do, I will always have a place in my heart for them. Even when they charge obscene prices for their concert tickets. (oops, that just slipped out.)
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
Wymablog
()
Date: April 28, 2013 18:32
You are not. He was wonderful
Re: Am I the only one here who loves Johnny Thunders ??
Posted by:
strettonbull
()
Date: April 28, 2013 20:13
Quote
MILKYWAY
EDIT: strettonbull, can you please post a link to what you put up on the Stones Vault?
[www.filefactory.com] - Live in Madrid 1984
[www.filefactory.com] - Last Rock'n'Roll Movie (Documentary)
[www.filefactory.com] - Last Rock'n'Roll Movie (Documentary)
[www.filefactory.com] - Last Rock'n'Roll Movie (Documentary)
[www.filefactory.com] - Best of
[www.filefactory.com] - Best of
[www.filefactory.com] - Who's Been Talking (Live in Osaka Video)
[www.filefactory.com] - Who's Been Talking (Live in Osaka Video)
[www.filefactory.com] - Who's Been Talking (Live in Osaka Video)
[www.filefactory.com] - Who's Been Talking (Live in Osaka Video)
That was my video of Max's Kansas City on YouTube - it's rare as rocking hose shit. (As is the Last Rock'n'Roll Movie posted above).
I also put money into the new documentary "Looking for Johnny", which is now at editing stage.
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