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Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 9, 2013 15:07

I wonder what LPs were remastered, all of the british ones? Could someone tell. Or are there some articles about on the net? Thanks in advance...

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: ChrisM42 ()
Date: March 9, 2013 16:51

Info on ABKCO 2002 SACD's Reissues at:

[www.rollingstonesnet.com]

Chris M.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 9, 2013 17:24

thank you!!

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 9, 2013 17:32

so i´m through with this but, the vinyls, which albums were rereleased?

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 9, 2013 20:03

so i don´t get it. there were uk releases & us releases but not the first two uk albums?

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 9, 2013 21:17

The two first UK albums were released on vinyl only in 2010 through the 1964-1969 vinyl box set.

[store.universal-music.co.uk]

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The Volume I Vinyls


1. The Rolling Stones (EP)*, original U.K. release January 10, 1964
2. The Rolling Stones*, original U.K. release April 17, 1964
3. Five By Five (EP)*, original U.K. release August 14, 1964
4. The Rolling Stones No. 2*, original U.K. release January 15, 1965
5. Out Of Our Heads*, original U.K. release September 24, 1965
6. Aftermath, original U.K. release April 15, 1966
7. Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), original U.K. release November 4, 1966
8. Between The Buttons, original U.K. release January 20, 1967
9. Their Satanic Majesties Request, original U.K. release December 8, 1967
10. Beggars Banquet, original U.K. release December 5, 1968
11. Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2), original U.K. release September 12, 1969
12. Let It Bleed, original U.K. release December 6, 1969
13. Metamorphosis, original U.K. release June 6, 1975

*Denotes recorded in mono




A good review of the remastered vinyls : [www.analogplanet.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-03-09 21:20 by kowalski.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 10, 2013 09:21

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kowalski
The two first UK albums were released on vinyl only in 2010 through the 1964-1969 vinyl box set.

[store.universal-music.co.uk]

Quote

The Volume I Vinyls


1. The Rolling Stones (EP)*, original U.K. release January 10, 1964
2. The Rolling Stones*, original U.K. release April 17, 1964
3. Five By Five (EP)*, original U.K. release August 14, 1964
4. The Rolling Stones No. 2*, original U.K. release January 15, 1965
5. Out Of Our Heads*, original U.K. release September 24, 1965
6. Aftermath, original U.K. release April 15, 1966
7. Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), original U.K. release November 4, 1966
8. Between The Buttons, original U.K. release January 20, 1967
9. Their Satanic Majesties Request, original U.K. release December 8, 1967
10. Beggars Banquet, original U.K. release December 5, 1968
11. Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2), original U.K. release September 12, 1969
12. Let It Bleed, original U.K. release December 6, 1969
13. Metamorphosis, original U.K. release June 6, 1975

*Denotes recorded in mono




A good review of the remastered vinyls : [www.analogplanet.com]

I know, but the quality of the 2003 remasters is better than the boxed set, also the covers are in a better wuality, laminated, etc..
so, no standalone editions of the first two UK albums and no release of the UK best ofs (darkly, high tide)?

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: March 10, 2013 16:44

I disagree with this. I think that the 64-69 box sounds very, very good. It's close, but I like them a little better than the 2003 remasters. I don't have the later box (post 71), but I heard that it doesn't sound as good as the 64-69 box, but it's not bad.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 10, 2013 16:59

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drbryant
I disagree with this. I think that the 64-69 box sounds very, very good. It's close, but I like them a little better than the 2003 remasters. I don't have the later box (post 71), but I heard that it doesn't sound as good as the 64-69 box, but it's not bad.

I have the box and I like the sound as well. I think I'll play these and the original albums back to back to see if there is a difference better or worse, with the original issues.

Anyone done that before?

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: March 10, 2013 18:39

The 2003 vinyls and the 2010 box set are made from the same 2002 DSD remasters (by Bob Ludwig) - which are also available on SACD.
It's also worth noting that these vinyls are most likely made from high res digital masters.

Please read the article from analog planet if you want a thorough review [www.analogplanet.com]

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Analog planet

The ABKCO box is worth having even if you have original UK pressings, because in some ways, some of the reissued discs are better than the originals—particularly Beggar’s Banquet at the correct speed, but also the early mono discs.

Many of these new LPs are notably more dynamic and have far deeper bass extension compared to the originals—and I think that’s on the tape, not in a twiddled EQ knob. I think the Decca engineers rolled off the bass and perhaps applied a bit of tube compression—particularly on the earlier mono albums, thinking the end user would be a kid with a cheap turntable.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 10, 2013 19:28

Quote
kowalski
The 2003 vinyls and the 2010 box set are made from the same 2002 DSD remasters (by Bob Ludwig) - which are also available on SACD.
It's also worth noting that these vinyls are most likely made from high res digital masters.

Please read the article from analog planet if you want a thorough review [www.analogplanet.com]

Quote
Analog planet

The ABKCO box is worth having even if you have original UK pressings, because in some ways, some of the reissued discs are better than the originals—particularly Beggar’s Banquet at the correct speed, but also the early mono discs.

Many of these new LPs are notably more dynamic and have far deeper bass extension compared to the originals—and I think that’s on the tape, not in a twiddled EQ knob. I think the Decca engineers rolled off the bass and perhaps applied a bit of tube compression—particularly on the earlier mono albums, thinking the end user would be a kid with a cheap turntable.

I'll definitely enjoy doing a side-by-side in that case!

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 11, 2013 09:00

yes, they made from the same source but the pressing of the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: March 11, 2013 12:21

The sound on the 2010 releases are warmer in sound than on the 2003 editions. There are less digital feel to them.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 11, 2013 16:04

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bluesinc.
yes, they made from the same source but the pressing of the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Some of the reviews for the first box are quite good actually, 'better' than the original pressing in terms of dynamic range if that is possible to believe.

Not so much for the second box (post 1970) but that's not what we're talking about.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: March 11, 2013 16:23

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bluesinc.
(...) the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Oh, I do agree with that. Not good at all.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 11, 2013 18:39

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RobberBride
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bluesinc.
(...) the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Oh, I do agree with that. Not good at all.

ah, somebody understands me, like the whpo box set, manufactured nearly identically

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: March 11, 2013 19:28

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bluesinc.
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RobberBride
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bluesinc.
(...) the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Oh, I do agree with that. Not good at all.

ah, somebody understands me, like the whpo box set, manufactured nearly identically

Oh, you were talking about manufacturing quality. Sorry, I was focused on the sound. Yes, I agree that the box could have been better produced; GZVinyl where it was pressed can be a little inconsistent, and their vinyl sometimes has surfaces that are not that clean (requiring a quick clean before first play). But, at the price the box was originally sold for (I think I paid $250 for mine) that's not a bad price for 11 albums and 2 EP's. Of course, since the box is now sold out, sellers want $800 for it, so it really isn't an option any more.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 11, 2013 22:34

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drbryant
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bluesinc.
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RobberBride
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bluesinc.
(...) the box isn´t that high quality than the remasters from 2003 imo. also the covers aren´t that good, simply said, they look cheaper than the 2003s.

Oh, I do agree with that. Not good at all.

ah, somebody understands me, like the whpo box set, manufactured nearly identically

Oh, you were talking about manufacturing quality. Sorry, I was focused on the sound. Yes, I agree that the box could have been better produced; GZVinyl where it was pressed can be a little inconsistent, and their vinyl sometimes has surfaces that are not that clean (requiring a quick clean before first play). But, at the price the box was originally sold for (I think I paid $250 for mine) that's not a bad price for 11 albums and 2 EP's. Of course, since the box is now sold out, sellers want $800 for it, so it really isn't an option any more.

I thought you were exaggerating so I looked around...it's true, I couldn't believe it. Now I look like a genius for buying two!

OK, so I don't look any smarter, I just got lucky.

Re: Question - ABCKO Vinyl Remasters 2003
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:18

selling mine on ebay [www.ebay.at]

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