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shortfatfanny
I don't complain.
I simply won't see any No Filter '18 show.
Seen them in Düsseldorf '17 and I enjoyed it very much.
Cost me a hell of money and I didn't regret it.
Just don't feel the wish or need to repeat that about half a year later.

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shortfatfanny
I don't complain.
I simply won't see any No Filter '18 show.
Seen them in Düsseldorf '17 and I enjoyed it very much.
Cost me a hell of money and I didn't regret it.
Just don't feel the wish or need to repeat that about half a year later.

I'm kind of in the same boat though my 2017 memory didn;t cost a lot as the trip was already planned and I got LD tickets. But the memory is one of a somewhat lackluster show in Lucca - the band, especially Keith (my hero I should mention) just weren't that great. Then there was the mass of people, too many really for the GA space and it just wasn't the best and probably close to the worst of my 50 shows.

So while on the one hand I'd like to replace that memory with a new/better one for what will likely become my last show, a part of me worries that just won't happen if I see them again. And I'll have to pay A LOT to find out...

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shortfatfanny
I don't complain.
I simply won't see any No Filter '18 show.
Seen them in Düsseldorf '17 and I enjoyed it very much.
Cost me a hell of money and I didn't regret it.
Just don't feel the wish or need to repeat that about half a year later.

I'm kind of in the same boat though my 2017 memory didn;t cost a lot as the trip was already planned and I got LD tickets. But the memory is one of a somewhat lackluster show in Lucca - the band, especially Keith (my hero I should mention) just weren't that great. Then there was the mass of people, too many really for the GA space and it just wasn't the best and probably close to the worst of my 50 shows.

So while on the one hand I'd like to replace that memory with a new/better one for what will likely become my last show, a part of me worries that just won't happen if I see them again. And I'll have to pay A LOT to find out...

That's a sticky situation, and not sure if it's worth the gamble to find out, but then again, why not? The last three Stones shows I saw were a rollercoaster - Desert Trip 1 below average at best. Desert Trip 2 much better, but far from the best. *Las Vegas - short setlist and Mick was sick. Yes they tried, and yes it's admirable Mick gave it a shot, and yes Midnight Rambler was great, and yes I paid a fraction of face value, but it didn't add up to a great show when compared to a show when all members are 100% healthy and able to give their all. I'm sure if I ever see them again it will be better than "Vegas '16 (how can it not?), and the No Filter shows of last year proved that as even at their worst it was an improvement, but not sure if it's even worth the bother (or gamble) anymore. Already have memories for a lifetime - don't want to sully them any more. That said, never say never and I'll always be open to seeing the Stones, but depending on a variety of circumstances (price, location, etc.).

By the way, how did you do with Lucky Dips at Lucca?

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GuessWho
First saw the Stones in 1976 at the Glasgow Apollo.

All seats £3.50 in a 2,500 seater venue

Corrected for inflation - £27.00 in 2018.

So, in Edinburgh this year the equivalent GA is now over £100 (with fees)and seats, apart from those far from the stage, are even more expensive.

As much as I appreciate that the finances of the music business have shifted from record sales to live gigs it has now got out of hand.

Have seen the Stones many times in Scotland but this time round, which will be the last, I can't really justify the cost.

This is not just related to Stones' ticket prices - it's across the board now that "major" acts have ticket prices that are way too high - but people seem willing to pay.

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GuessWho
First saw the Stones in 1976 at the Glasgow Apollo.

All seats £3.50 in a 2,500 seater venue

Corrected for inflation - £27.00 in 2018.

So, in Edinburgh this year the equivalent GA is now over £100 (with fees)and seats, apart from those far from the stage, are even more expensive.

As much as I appreciate that the finances of the music business have shifted from record sales to live gigs it has now got out of hand.

Have seen the Stones many times in Scotland but this time round, which will be the last, I can't really justify the cost.

This is not just related to Stones' ticket prices - it's across the board now that "major" acts have ticket prices that are way too high - but people seem willing to pay.

I saw the Stones at the 'Leeds Lungs' gig in 1971 and paid less than £1GBP and saw two support bands too. I walked 4 miles in the snow to queue overnight for tickets. It was worth it in all respects. Now, some 40 odd years later, both the band and my attitude towards them has changed and it's no longer worth it in any respect.

I only hang around here in the hope that someone will find the Gomelsky tape or similar.

Just saying...

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Prices that have been unoficially published for Prague have big difference between GA and FoS

GA 1990 CZK
FoS 4590 CZK

That surprised me negatively. Why FoS is 2,3 times more expensive than GA? I was considering FoS now I am not that sure what I'll buy next week.

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Hairball
I recall seeing pics and videos of the masses of people in the GA section - it looked like they were even spilling out to the sides under some trees, etc, but evidently that was considered GA as well.
Oh well, for Lucky Dips you did OK, and in the end it was somewhat of a fun and memorable experience despite the band not being that great!

EDIT: Found these pics of Lucca w/ the mobs of people and trees.





( Source: Stones Lucca)

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jumpingjackflash5
Thank you for your comments. If the price for FoS would be e.g. 3500 CZK I would not complain and buy it. This pricing is difficult.

I also do not think that it justifies the payment. Ot the other hand I am not sure that I can come and stay early enough to be in front of GA.

I'll think of it and decide.

But I wonder why the pricing is done so strangely. I know this is not charity, I know I can look at it that the GA tickets are "too cheap" actually. But here in Eastern Europe we also have less buying power than e.g. in UK. So I am not satisfied with the pricing they chose, given the capacity of the place is 85 000 people. If they charge on average approx 3 000 per ticket and will sell it out, they'll get 255 million CZK, which is 10 milion EUR ....

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OK, but the prices in 2007 in Brno were much cheaper (but OK it is ten years, inflation, overall shift of concert prices), but most of all the difference between GA and FoS was just 1,5 times.

I think that the promoters should do pricing reasonably, we are their customers and fan, of course it is not charity but should not be casino either.

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OK, but the prices in 2007 in Brno were much cheaper (but OK it is ten years, inflation, overall shift of concert prices), but most of all the difference between GA and FoS was just 1,5 times.

I think that the promoters should do pricing reasonably, we are their customers and fan, of course it is not charity but should not be casino either.

I know, but times change as does the business model. There are some changes from that era that in terms of being fan-friendly decisions that are for the better (Lucky Dip tickets meaning you can see the Stones on this tour for a ticket that costs what everyone was paying in 1995) and others (ridiculously inflated prices for anyone who wants to be down front) that aren't.

Its not solely down to the promoters. The Stones simply ask for a LOT of money per concert and with guaranteed amounts being so high, a promoter is obliged to find ways of generating enough revenue to make the financial risk worthwhile.

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At the end of the day it comes down to what each individual can afford or is prepared to afford. I've been lucky enough to see this band on every tour since 76...some average shows, some exceptional shows...no poor shows. So, the only reason I'd go to this tour is through the fear of missing their final show....I've been working on this theory since 82!

It's not just the Stones who are ripping off music fans, all bands do it these days because it has become their main revenue stream due to falling sales of recordings.....so whilst I'm annoyed about it, I accept it's the way of the rock world and sad as it is for those on low incomes...at least there are more opportunities to see live shows digitally....something we never had back in the 70s and 80s....everything now is more accessible...apart from the real thing!

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bv
I paid $300 every night to be on the floor at the three MSG shows in January 1998. It is now 20 years ago so ticket prices have been at a certain level all the time. These three MSG shows cost me more than the flight Oslo-NYC and also the hotel, but having close contact on the B-stage every nightw as all worth it, especially during the special hand delivery of a pick to me by Keith at MSG2.

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it is no longer about wether you can afford it or not, it is about rationality. if I spend the money for the pit, I won't get what I paid for. I will hear all the same songs I've been hearing for ages, probably even at the same order, on a huge stadium filled with a lot of people that do not give a rats ass about the band and are there because it is fashionable and shows your status. I will see closer how Keith is strolling around, not even playing the solos anymore. awesome.

they became a parody of a rock'n roll band. they became a fashion brand with a stale product. and the fact that the @#$%& jeep logo is often almost the same size as the bands logo makes me want to vomit.

they are living so far outside the reality they don't care, or even know. same as some people in this forum.

I mean if you want to go to every show of the band and pay pit every time, go ahead. whatever floats your boat. but you are an extreme case. these prices are not normal and you can try to apologise for it however you want.

and do not me even get started on the scalping.

I love the band, but I really hate this.

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laughinearlydied
it is no longer about wether you can afford it or not, it is about rationality. if I spend the money for the pit, I won't get what I paid for. I will hear all the same songs I've been hearing for ages, probably even at the same order, on a huge stadium filled with a lot of people that do not give a rats ass about the band and are there because it is fashionable and shows your status. I will see closer how Keith is strolling around, not even playing the solos anymore. awesome.

they became a parody of a rock'n roll band. they became a fashion brand with a stale product. and the fact that the @#$%& jeep logo is often almost the same size as the bands logo makes me want to vomit.

they are living so far outside the reality they don't care, or even know. same as some people in this forum.

I mean if you want to go to every show of the band and pay pit every time, go ahead. whatever floats your boat. but you are an extreme case. these prices are not normal and you can try to apologise for it however you want.

and do not me even get started on the scalping.

I love the band, but I really hate this.

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bv
I paid $300 every night to be on the floor at the three MSG shows in January 1998. It is now 20 years ago so ticket prices have been at a certain level all the time. These three MSG shows cost me more than the flight Oslo-NYC and also the hotel, but having close contact on the B-stage every nightw as all worth it, especially during the special hand delivery of a pick to me by Keith at MSG2.

[iorr.org]

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In fairness, the ticket prices on that tour were around $65. Those shows were an exception,

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JN99: You wrote, "It was crazy, but fun in a way too, great vibe in the whole city. That part was unlike anything I've experienced elsewhere."

Each show, to me, is unique, with memorable moments in or around the show, and this, on the city of Lucca sounds fantastic. Unlike you, I have decided to invest again. I doubt if I will regret it, except on the financial side.