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whats that-one? 50 Videos?? ( incl. the new 2?) anybody know more details?

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www.weltbild.de

whats that-one? 50 Videos?? ( incl. the new 2?) anybody know more details?

Just googled: seems to be this one, a Blu-ray Audio.

JPC says: "The Blu-ray Audio Format with 50 Tracks in High Definition Audio - 24 bit - on one Blu-ray Disc".



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Grrr! is already available as high definition audio download on Qobuz : [www.qobuz.com]

Also available on HDtracks. Would be cool if they added videos to this collection.

Now that might just tempt me to buy this f*ckin thing. I'm glad I found out now and not after I bought another format. Blu-ray Audio is as good as it gets as far as digital sources go!



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Up to now I've had no interest in this comp but a HD version? That's tempting. Is it available in the UK?

No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

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No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

Most likely it's the same version as the CD. High resolution compressed audio doesn't make any sense IMO. The HDTracks version of Some Girls released last year sounded awful...

Cracking marketing. Wait until the various formats of the album are already in the shops or have been ordered before launching a blu ray version. THAT'll sell like hot cakes.

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Cracking marketing. Wait until the various formats of the album are already in the shops or have been ordered before launching a blu ray version. THAT'll sell like hot cakes.

I'm beginning to get the feeling they are taking us for a ride.

They'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for us pesky meddling kids. And whiners.

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Gazza
They'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for us pesky meddling kids. And whiners.

What a coincidence...I'm having a glass of red whine right now!

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No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

There should be two tracks on this Blu-ray Audio Disc: a "DTS-HD Master Audio" Track (compressed, but lossless like FLAC) and a "PCM 2.0" Track (uncompressed, like CD).

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They'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for us pesky meddling kids. And whiners.

What a coincidence...I'm having a glass of red whine right now!

Hehe

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No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

There should be two tracks on this Blu-ray Audio Disc: a "DTS-HD Master Audio" Track (compressed, but lossless like FLAC) and a "PCM 2.0" Track (uncompressed, like CD).

By "uncompressed" I think gotdablouse meant dynamic compression not audio data compression (lossy or lossless).

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No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

By "uncompressed" I think gotdablouse meant dynamic compression not audio data compression (lossy or lossless).

What are the Paul McCartney HD Audio releases?

Can't find these on e .g. HDtracks.com or Blu-ray Audio.

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No compressed/uncompressed version like for the Macca HD Audio releases ?

By "uncompressed" I think gotdablouse meant dynamic compression not audio data compression (lossy or lossless).

What are the Paul McCartney HD Audio releases?

Can't find these on e .g. HDtracks.com or Blu-ray Audio.

In 2010 or something McCartney's "Band on the Run" was made available as an "uncompressed" HD download on HDTracks, which means faithful to the original recording. However I can't seem to find it anymore on the website...

From wikipedia :
"The album was re-released by Hear Music/Concord Music Group on 2 November 2010 as the first release in the Paul McCartney Archive Collection. It was released in multiple formats:
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High Resolution 24bit 96 kHz with no dynamic range compression limited and unlimited audio versions of all 18 songs on the remastered album and bonus audio disc"



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What are the Paul McCartney HD Audio releases?

Can't find these on e .g. HDtracks.com or Blu-ray Audio.

In 2010 or something McCartney's "Band on the Run" was made available as an "uncompressed" HD download on HDTracks, which means faithful to the original recording. However I can't seem to find it anymore on the website...

From wikipedia :
"The album was re-released by Hear Music/Concord Music Group on 2 November 2010 as the first release in the Paul McCartney Archive Collection. It was released in multiple formats:
(...)
High Resolution 24bit 96 kHz with no dynamic range compression limited and unlimited audio versions of all 18 songs on the remastered album and bonus audio disc"

Thank you for the information, now I know what you meant.

The tracks are still available at HDtracks.com, but only via the Wikipedia-Link. Strangely, no P. McCartney album is found on HDtracks.com via the search bar.

HDtracks.com wrote to the BAND ON THE RUN album:

"HDtracks give you two choices:

1) [Compressed] The original album mastering in 96/24

2) [Uncompressed] The newly remastered BAND ON THE RUN in 96/24 with NO dynamic range compression."


So it's a choice between the original Mastering with and a completely new Remaster without dynamic range compression.

I don't know, whether the tracks on GRRR! have been remastered again or they are the same as we they already know.

I bet they used the same mastering as on the CD as it was the case for Some Girls HDtracks version.

Yes, the Macca rereleases so far (BOTR, MaccaI, MaccaII, Ram) were offered with an HD version uncompressed, i.e. not "brickwalled".

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Yes, the Macca rereleases so far (BOTR, MaccaI, MaccaII, Ram) were offered with an HD version uncompressed, i.e. not "brickwalled".

David Bowie did the same with his re-releases of Station To Station and Ziggy Stardust. On the same DVD you had the "modern mix" (compressed and brickwalled) and the original mastering. Needless to say that the original sounds fantastic when compared to the new mix...

GRRR! high resolution download version is #1 on best sellers list on French music site Qobuz
[www.qobuz.com]

...and #1 on HDTracks Top 25 Rock Best Sellers list.
[www.hdtracks.com]

HD format's taking off! Yahoo!

I don't think I'll be buying this. If it's the same mastering but in higher resolution there won't be much of an audible improvement, if any. I'll spend the money I save on completing my SHM-SACD collection instead (six down, six to go).

I changed my mind and bought it anyway. It's not so expensive on amazon.co.uk, so I decided to take the risk.

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I changed my mind and bought it anyway. It's not so expensive on amazon.co.uk, so I decided to take the risk.

Me too, I've preordered. Only 9 GBPs after they do the discount!

I guess the tracks on the blu-ray are the same as the ones available at HDTracks.

All the tracks on first disc and tracks #1-8 on second disc are ABKCO remasters, and are actually the same as the HD versions that were made available a couple of years ago on HDTracks. These tracks made from the 2002 remasters sound great in high res.

From #9 on disc 2 all tracks are from UMG remasters. Because the remastering is very loud and compressed you will hear almost no difference between the HD versions and the CD versions. Also a lot of these tracks are actually upsampled from 44.1kHz / 24 bit sources. On the tracks recorded before 1989 I can't see the reason why as all these tracks were recorded on analog tapes and should have been transferred to digital in much higher resolution. Tracks after 1989 were all recorded digital anyway and most likely in 44.1kHz/24 bit resolution. Only the very last tracks (Don't Stop, Doom and Gloom, One More Shot) seems to have been recorded in higher resolution.



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I guess the tracks on the blu-ray are the same as the ones available at HDTracks.

Not quite:

The tracks on Blu-ray should be all at least 96 kHz / 24 bit.

The tracks on Qobuz are all 88.2 kHz / 24 bit.

The tracks on HDtracks are 88.2 kHz / 24 bit, one track is 48 kHz / 24 bit and 8 other tracks are 44.1 kHz / 24 bit (see the notes on HDtracks.com).

I don't know, whether the high definition tracks are all the same Remasters (should be compared) and whether the Blu-ray tracks are upsampled from 44.1 kHz / 24 bit studio sources to meet the Blu-ray requirements.

By the way: buying the tracks on HDtracks.com ouside the United States is possible with a trick: use a free anonymous proxy server within the United States and checkout via PayPal. For buying the tracks on Qobuz a free anonymous proxy server within France is sufficient if a message appears, that the album is not yet available in your country (both worked for me).



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Only 9 GBPs after they do the discount!

Discount? If you live outside the EU, they might subtract the VAT, but that's not a discount.

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The tracks on Blu-ray should be all 96 kHz / 24 bit.

What makes you think that? Why couldn't they be 192 kHz, for instance?

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The tracks on Blu-ray should be all 96 kHz / 24 bit.

What makes you think that? Why couldn't they be 192 kHz, for instance?

You're right, could be 192 kHz too. Don't know the sampling rate, because I haven't the disc (yet).

The DTS-HD Master Audio Stream of a Blu-ray Disc is specified with either 96 kHz or 192 kHz at 24 bit.

Hopefully the GRRR! Blu-ray Audio tracks have not been upsampled from 44.1 kHz to 192 kHz

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To the Amazon discount: maybe he had an Promotional Code ...



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