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Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: electricmud ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:01

I`m happy to get a perfect sounding release from 1982.
1982 was different to 1981 in some ways. We get Chantilly Lace , they had Gene Barge instead of Ernie Watts , Chuck for the first time on tour with them..., their last gig with Stu... last gig for many years.
So I`m looking forward to this one!

Tom

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:01

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aprilfool
Perhaps these six official bootlegs are a test. If these downloade shows are sold well, there will be a new pack of 6 or more. I don't know but hope it will be.

This is good question. It would be intersting to know how much these shows actually sell. Not that it would matter to the Stones directly, but for example, those instances, in this case Google Music, who put their money on it. As I understand the deal was that Google Music paid the whole thing, that is, gave tHe Stones a certain nice sum of money to provide these shows for them to release (Stonesarchive was just an extra for international market). Did their invenstment in this sense was worth of that? The pessimist in me says that it was not - and to be even more cynical, I think Google did the whole thing mostly in PR sense, and not to make big money (The Stones generally are good in selling their their brand).

I don't think there is not much money involved in the first place, so I really doubt the real interest by The Stones to do it 'by themselves' from now on - they need a partner to make it worthy for them.

- Doxa



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Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Glam Descendant ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:04

>We get Chantilly Lace

I wish but alas, no.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: AllAboutYours ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:11

This is absolutely awesome news! Video footage looks awesome too.

..Rolling Stones fans are generally unhappy people? just a thought.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Rik ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:16

A dvd would also be great!

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: aprilfool ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:20

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Doxa
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aprilfool
Perhaps these six official bootlegs are a test. If these downloade shows are sold well, there will be a new pack of 6 or more. I don't know but hope it will be.

This is good question. It would be intersting to know how much these shows actually sell. Not that it would matter to the Stones directly, but for example, those instances, in this case Google Music, who put their money on it. As I understand the deal was that Google Music paid the whole thing, that is, gave tHe Stones a certain nice sum of money to provide these shows for them to release (Stonesarchive was just an extra for international market). Did their invenstment in this sense was worth of that? The pessimist in me says that it was not - and to be even more cynical, I think Google did the whole thing mostly in PR sense, and not to make big money (The Stones generally are good in selling their their brand).

I don't think there is not much money involved in the first place, so I really doubt the real interest by The Stones to do it 'by themselves' from now on - they need a partner to make it worthy for them.

- Doxa
I agree but who knows, is it a test for next selling way when CDs area will be over and music will get music only by downloading. When they will be really too old to get records and shows, selling their archives will be the deal.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:26

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aprilfool
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Doxa
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aprilfool
Perhaps these six official bootlegs are a test. If these downloade shows are sold well, there will be a new pack of 6 or more. I don't know but hope it will be.

This is good question. It would be intersting to know how much these shows actually sell. Not that it would matter to the Stones directly, but for example, those instances, in this case Google Music, who put their money on it. As I understand the deal was that Google Music paid the whole thing, that is, gave tHe Stones a certain nice sum of money to provide these shows for them to release (Stonesarchive was just an extra for international market). Did their invenstment in this sense was worth of that? The pessimist in me says that it was not - and to be even more cynical, I think Google did the whole thing mostly in PR sense, and not to make big money (The Stones generally are good in selling their their brand).

I don't think there is not much money involved in the first place, so I really doubt the real interest by The Stones to do it 'by themselves' from now on - they need a partner to make it worthy for them.

- Doxa
I agree but who knows, is it a test for next selling way when CDs area will be over and music will get music only by downloading. When they will be really too old to get records and shows, selling their archives will be the deal.

Surely you have a point there. It could be that is 'testing' in a more wider sense for them.

- Doxa

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: geoffc ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:26

I was at this gig - Joe Jackson was one of the support acts (along with George Thorogood), and I remember he went to the front of the stage a took a photo of the crowd, saying 'this is the biggest audience I will ever play for'! A memorable afternoon.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:38

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24FPS
This is not noticeably better than Hampton '81, or Still Life. You get the same songs on Hampton '81. This is not only stupid, it's a RIP OFF.

The whole SA biz is all about filling gaps in the official live discography : 73 75 90 and now 82 are filled. Period.

The title "Live At Leeds" is a joke aimed at YOU the fans who own the boot version. And if they had indeed put out the 71 show some of you would have whined that it's a pointless release as it doesn't sound better than the boots and it's not complete.
So instead they give us an 82 show, which I appreciate thumbs up

I regret the non-release of rare show (Mocambo Paradiso) but that may be the purpose of another series of live releases aimed to the more elitist fans...?

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:48

And do yourself a favour : find yourself a copy of the previous day show (Slane Castle) : it's another scorching gig (in so-so aud quality though...)

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Rik ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:49

are there any links yet?

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 13, 2012 12:08

Knowing stonesarchive, it will be a week before European fans can download it.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: November 13, 2012 12:34

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Mathijs
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24FPS
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Gibson668
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jpasc95
For a fan, I think it's pleasant to have the US version and the European one of this tour. Both are good to me.
We don't have that many soundboard boots or pro shot videos of the 82' European tour while in US you have a huge choice !

Good point...I'm biased as I was at this gig

But as a product you're paying almost twice as much for what is almost song for song an exact replica of Hampton '81, with no noticeable appreciation in quality. In other words, We've Been Cheated.

Man please shut the fvck up. With reasoning like this you have been cheated at every show you've been to since '69 as they have played the same 10 songs at least at each show.

For 10 bucks (which is NOTHING for an official release of close to 2.5 hrs) you get a show from one of the worst documented tours (only 1970 is worse documented). This tour does not have any official release, and only half a mono soundboard from Italy and the last dozen shows from Wembley, also in mediocre soundboad quality.

You get a different tour, with a different sound and with a different band. This time no Ian MacLagan and Ernie Watts, but Chuck Leavell, Ian Stewart, Bobby Keys and Gene Barge, the latter playing different arrangements.

For many poeple the 1982 tour was their first shows they saw -and now they can finally buy an official release show. And you say rip-off: many people who saw the 1982 tour have been shelling out big bucks for terrible sounding audience recordings, and you dare to say 10 bucks is a rip-off.

Man, you really don't have a clue.

Mathijs

I saw them live as some others here as well in´82 live for the first time.
Disapointing is the the fact that this show runs almost similar as Hampton.
No matter what the line up has been,sound...etc.
I don´t call it a rip off...it´s just a wasted opportunity taking almost 50 years of live performances into account.
Yes, it has been Stu´s last show with them which has a special value for sure.
And it´s their first complete open air show release,in case that´s from any interest.

I don´t know if they will continue the series,I just hope.
If not,the actual one includes zero with Brian Jones,one with Taylor and
five with Ronnie.

As Crossfire Hurricane stops by ´82 as far as I know this release fits perfectly.

To be disapointed doesn´t mean complaining,whining.
The first three shows in this series were wonderful surprises,at least for me.
Tokyo not and Toronto is ok.

No one is forced to anything,neither to buy extremely high priced tickets
or shows to be downloaded.


Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: November 13, 2012 12:45

just read this on FB !! GREEEAATTTTTTT

at last a 82 show. So badly documented in bootlegs

thank you ROLLING STONES

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: toomuchforme ()
Date: November 13, 2012 12:56

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straycatuk
Can't believe this....... I was at this show ! My 2nd Stones gig.....WOW !

Made my day thumbs up

sc uk

enjoy this historical show for you

"we know it's a bit late but we hope you don't mind if we stay"

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 12:59

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kowalski
One new bootleg a month? Nice.

Indeed. Would like to see them carry pace that all through next year.

right now they are done with the proposed 6 releases. who knows if this is the last release.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:03

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jpasc95
I live in France and I can only get this one as MP3 too

It'll be available as FLAC on Stones Archive soon.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:05

Who knows what 2013 will bring ?

Ideally, there should be more deluxe edition cds.

However, it would be nice to see deluxe editions of Let It Bleed, GHS, Sticky Fingers, Tattoo You, with live concerts on discs 2 and 3, a bit like Bowie on Station to Station.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: stargroover ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:18

Yep a great show.Also my second show,the first been Saint James Park in Newcastle.Great to hear Angie,I think it was rarely performed during that European tour.Remember that rather cool jacket that Mick was wearing,with Mick written on the back.A wonderful gig,with a rumoured 120,000 there.JJ Geils were on form too.Yep looking forward to this one,despite having a bootleg of the show !

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:22

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tomcasagranda
Who knows what 2013 will bring ?

Ideally, there should be more deluxe edition cds.

However, it would be nice to see deluxe editions of Let It Bleed, GHS, Sticky Fingers, Tattoo You, with live concerts on discs 2 and 3, a bit like Bowie on Station to Station.

Yeah, who knows what will happen. In the case The Stones do continuing playing live, and perhaps making a new album, it is rather unlike that deluxe 'series' will continue, at least in next year. Besides, their recent record deal will end soon, so the future will be open in that sense as well (if I understood right, the deluxe editions are part of the recent deal, making their past catalog more appealing).

Altogether, if we recall Jagger's remark a year ago (or so), he was talking about lots of "lovely things" to come to celebrate the 50th Anniversary, after which people will be tired about The Rolling Stones, could it be that he is talking about himself... Jagger's been rather busy in archive projects during the last yaers or so (a period from fall 2009 to summer 2011 I suppose), so will he be 'motivated' enough again to make bonus CDs etc. taking that he has some taste of contemporary things lately...

- Doxa

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: odean73 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:43

Great news.

I went to this concert and remeber joe jackson etc I recall a nice sunny day and a good mood prevailed all the way through the concert.

Happy Days.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: jsz1002 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 13:57

It is odd that the price has increased. I will probably hold off until there is a price drop. Some of the earlier bootlegs had "sale" prices on Google a few weeks after release.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:05

I think it's great to have this 1982 show, in great sbd quality. Sure, i'd like to have shows from other periods as well, but again an previously unreleased show in full is great!

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:17

A cannot understand people whining about the fact that Hampton and Leeds have simular setlists. Out of 15 songs from the Brussel 73 release 14 (!) appear again on the LA 75 release. So then basically, for us there's no real need for the Stones to really open the vaults? Because whatever they'll release from any tour we will complain that we 'already have those songs'. I would love a complete MSG 69 release, but then somebody will start complaing that we have an almost complete '69 release already. When they release a '71 show we will complain that we already have the Marquee and Leeds shows already. Nothing from '72 is interesting anymore, as we have L&G. '73, '75, '78, 81, '82, '90 -all covered by releases. Anything after '90 and we'll complain that they are a vegas band with clown Wood and Taylor isn't on it.

So there only seems to be two holy grails left –Mocambo 77, of which only the 2nd show was recorded properly, and of which we already have all the interesting bits, the rest is just like LA75 and Love You Live. Same for Paradiso 95 –the best bits where used, the rest is quite full of mistakes and would get us whining again.

Man, you get a great show from a great tour of which almost nothing was available, and from a time they still where a really great R&R band, for only 10 bucks. What’s not too like here? That we still don’t have a proper release of Chantilly Lace…..

Mathijs

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:17

I've just gone to the rollingstones.com website and couldn't find it. Is it only available on play.com?

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:17

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gimme_shelter
I think it's great to have this 1982 show, in great sbd quality. Sure, i'd like to have shows from other periods as well, but again an previously unreleased show in full is great!

Yes, the fact that they release again and again previously still unreleased concerts in this series suggests that there are many (maybe all 69 onwards) unreleased recordings in their archive in good sound quality. Few months ago I suggested a "boot flat". A monthly fee and you can get over the next years all concerts they have ever recorded.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: LieB ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:22

I pretty much agree with Mathijs. Interesting, not to mention surprising, release. But where's a real good '72 release? Or '70? Or a '71 show with a better performance than Leeds? Or Australia '73? Or Mocambo? I'd buy any of these before Europe '82.

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Date: November 13, 2012 14:29

By the way...


There is a footage...made by West Yorkshire Police!...




video: [www.yfaonline.com]


(no video inside..just a remark and a pdf to download....)

Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:40

Coincidence? This show is online the same day Google Play is available for some European countries (France, GB, Germany, Italy, Spain).

[googleblog.blogspot.fr]

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On November 13, we're bringing music on Google Play to Europe. Those of you in the U.K, France, Germany, Italy and Spain will be able to purchase music from the Google Play store and add up to 20,000 songs—for free—from your existing collection to the cloud for streaming to your Android devices or web browser.



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Re: Newest bootleg: Roundhay Park (Live, 1982)
Posted by: theimposter ()
Date: November 13, 2012 14:43

Okay, so far I have been possibly the only person on this board to not complain about a single archive release. But this is totally redundant, and at nearly twice the price. Also, wasn't this supposed to be the final release in the series? Did they really think the fans would prefer yet another Tattoo You tour show vs, say, Brixton or Paradiso 95, or the complete MSG 69 shows?

This will be the first in the archive series I don't purchase.

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