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+ 2, especially given the situation Obama inherited and an opposition rendered dysfunctional by its lunatic fringe, aka Tea Party.
Shattered.
"Life's just a cocktail party on the street..."
when everything is paid for and you don't need a job anymore.
I guess it's all relative in how you look at health care reform. Should we have nationalized medicine? Yes, but the lines and wait and what not will be deplorable. Ask Canadians what they think of it, and the waiting they have to endure. Canadians, I believe, pay about 40% of their income in taxes for free healthcare and college education. I already pay 40% plus whatever else this healthcare reform costs me. Plus, when corporations start dropping healthcare coverage because it'll be cheaper for them if employees just go on the gov't system, then we'll see how well this is working.
Iraq war took FAR longer than he'd said it would - were supposed to be out within his first year in office if I recall. Afghanistan should have never entered. Yeah - he got Bin Laden. One for him.
Am not sure economy is back from brink of any collapse - China owns so much of the US now it's not funny. All they have to do is call in their debts, and we are screwed. We just keep printing more and more money. Like that's the answer - all that's doing is devaluing the dollar further. Saved the US Auto industry? Really? You mean the government bought it. What's it called again when the gov't owns/controls the banking and automotive industries??
Guess I must have missed all those tax cuts for the middle class - never saw any of them come my way.
Wall Street reform.........that has led to less lending from banks and more new fee creations to side step the new 'reform' brought forth. Plus, last I checked, 99% of the CEO's are back to making their huge salaries and corporations are still living and spending extravagantly, so where's the reform there? I know, because I work for one!!
Praytell, where exactly as he improved relations overseas? And do you really believe that we're less dependent on foreign oil because we're now producing cars getting better gas mileage? Who's buying these cars with so many out of work? Do you think hydrofracking is the answer? Mine gas and destroy our waters for the sake of removing our dependence on oil?? Pu-lease!!
What about job creation?? Where is that? Still thousands and thousands of jobs going overseas due to lucrative tax deals. And the heavy tarrifs the country charges corporations for setting up shop here, but doesn't charge foreign companies.
Education? Social Security? What of all his little side deals that had to wait until after he won re-election? Where does it end? I don't trust him ONE bit, and I'm a Democrat. Mind you, one who's still smarting that it's not Hillary in the White House.
I love this country to death, but neither of these 'candidates' deserved to be the last two standing. Between all this for Barry O. and the jobs eliminated and lack of intuity that Romney presented, it is a sad, sad, sad state of affairs.
We can agree to disagree, gimmelittledrink. You have your beliefs, and I have mine - and that there is what makes America so great. We are each entitled to them and can freely debate the merits of each other's argument without getting nasty with one another or thrown in prison for our beliefs.........although there is now the law that one can be arrested and thrown in jail for speaking out against the gov't. No trial's needed and the time incarcerated is indefinitely. It's true. Look it up.
I strongly fear for what's left of this once great nation. So much is gone from what once made this nation great. And to the person who called God fictional, I feel bad for you, my friend, I really do. There is a God - a living breathing one, and I pray to him each and every day to look over my family, my pastors, our country and our leaders...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 19:12 by VoodooLounge13.
USA = now the United States of Greece (or France)
Yes it is a good buy day. Look at CAT, ENOC, DE even AAPL.
And exactly why is that? I think just a few days ago, they were showing people in either Iran or Pakistan burning more American flags and chanting death to Obama. Would love to know who keeps selling these flags over there
117.4 million votes cast with a winning margin of only 2.7 million (2.3%)
Not exactly a landslide.
Perhaps that margin reflects the ever-growing entitlement society.
They're made in China, not too far away.
Picked up some Apple at $580 last week, someone on CNBC thinks the bottom may be in the upper $400's, but will probably see if it goes down in the 525 range (560 sure looks attractive though). Always liked CAT...
Same here on 2008 lows - Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful
couldn't agree more, well said filstan
there are reactionary, wrongheaded pundits on the left too
I've watched my Apple stock go from $525 where I bought it to over $700 and back down. If it dips into the $400's I will buy more. Caterpillar is a good strong company. If it dips below a certain point, I would consider buying more.
Yes, you are correct, but it really pales in comparison. Take Donald Trump's latest blathering from last night. What a dick.
There is plenty of hate and venom on both sides of the aisle- if you don't agree then you are simply delusional.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
xke38
()
Date: November 7, 2012 18:47
Quote
GravityBoyQuote
gimmelittledrink
Heath care reform
Iraq war ended
Afghanistan war winding down
Death of Bin Laden
Brought US economy back from the verge of collapse
Rescued American automobile industry
Tax cuts for middle class
Wall Steet reform
Improved foreign relations
Less reliance on foreign oil
Congratulations Mr. President!
46 million below the poverty line - up 10 million from where he started.
Yes well done.
+ 2, especially given the situation Obama inherited and an opposition rendered dysfunctional by its lunatic fringe, aka Tea Party.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
duke richardson
()
Date: November 7, 2012 18:48
lets add some stones relevancy to this..
songs with lyrics appropriate for the re-election of Barack Obama:
Baby Break It Down
Brown Sugar
Under My Thumb
Sweet Neo Con
100 Years Ago
I Got The Blues
add your selections..
songs with lyrics appropriate for the re-election of Barack Obama:
Baby Break It Down
Brown Sugar
Under My Thumb
Sweet Neo Con
100 Years Ago
I Got The Blues
add your selections..
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
gimmelittledrink
()
Date: November 7, 2012 18:50
Without Obama, the figure may have risen to 100 million.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
whitem8
()
Date: November 7, 2012 18:52
Stop lumping Americans into a group like that. That is the stuff that denigrates a good civil conversation that BV is allowing. Not all Americans resort to hyperbole. Find me the perfect country in the world, and perhaps you might be living there?
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
Kurt
()
Date: November 7, 2012 18:59
Quote
duke richardson
lets add some stones relevancy to this..
songs with lyrics appropriate for the re-election of Barack Obama:
Baby Break It Down
Brown Sugar
Under My Thumb
Sweet Neo Con
100 Years Ago
I Got The Blues
add your selections..
Shattered.
"Life's just a cocktail party on the street..."
when everything is paid for and you don't need a job anymore.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
VoodooLounge13
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:07
Quote
gimmelittledrink
Heath care reform
Iraq war ended
Afghanistan war winding down
Death of Bin Laden
Brought US economy back from the verge of collapse
Rescued American automobile industry
Tax cuts for middle class
Wall Steet reform
Improved foreign relations
Less reliance on foreign oil
Congratulations Mr. President!
I guess it's all relative in how you look at health care reform. Should we have nationalized medicine? Yes, but the lines and wait and what not will be deplorable. Ask Canadians what they think of it, and the waiting they have to endure. Canadians, I believe, pay about 40% of their income in taxes for free healthcare and college education. I already pay 40% plus whatever else this healthcare reform costs me. Plus, when corporations start dropping healthcare coverage because it'll be cheaper for them if employees just go on the gov't system, then we'll see how well this is working.
Iraq war took FAR longer than he'd said it would - were supposed to be out within his first year in office if I recall. Afghanistan should have never entered. Yeah - he got Bin Laden. One for him.
Am not sure economy is back from brink of any collapse - China owns so much of the US now it's not funny. All they have to do is call in their debts, and we are screwed. We just keep printing more and more money. Like that's the answer - all that's doing is devaluing the dollar further. Saved the US Auto industry? Really? You mean the government bought it. What's it called again when the gov't owns/controls the banking and automotive industries??
Guess I must have missed all those tax cuts for the middle class - never saw any of them come my way.
Wall Street reform.........that has led to less lending from banks and more new fee creations to side step the new 'reform' brought forth. Plus, last I checked, 99% of the CEO's are back to making their huge salaries and corporations are still living and spending extravagantly, so where's the reform there? I know, because I work for one!!
Praytell, where exactly as he improved relations overseas? And do you really believe that we're less dependent on foreign oil because we're now producing cars getting better gas mileage? Who's buying these cars with so many out of work? Do you think hydrofracking is the answer? Mine gas and destroy our waters for the sake of removing our dependence on oil?? Pu-lease!!
What about job creation?? Where is that? Still thousands and thousands of jobs going overseas due to lucrative tax deals. And the heavy tarrifs the country charges corporations for setting up shop here, but doesn't charge foreign companies.
Education? Social Security? What of all his little side deals that had to wait until after he won re-election? Where does it end? I don't trust him ONE bit, and I'm a Democrat. Mind you, one who's still smarting that it's not Hillary in the White House.
I love this country to death, but neither of these 'candidates' deserved to be the last two standing. Between all this for Barry O. and the jobs eliminated and lack of intuity that Romney presented, it is a sad, sad, sad state of affairs.
We can agree to disagree, gimmelittledrink. You have your beliefs, and I have mine - and that there is what makes America so great. We are each entitled to them and can freely debate the merits of each other's argument without getting nasty with one another or thrown in prison for our beliefs.........although there is now the law that one can be arrested and thrown in jail for speaking out against the gov't. No trial's needed and the time incarcerated is indefinitely. It's true. Look it up.
I strongly fear for what's left of this once great nation. So much is gone from what once made this nation great. And to the person who called God fictional, I feel bad for you, my friend, I really do. There is a God - a living breathing one, and I pray to him each and every day to look over my family, my pastors, our country and our leaders...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 19:12 by VoodooLounge13.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:15
Quote
WeLoveToPlayTheBluesQuote
mickscarey
Sad news for us (USA)
Yes, everything's ruined. Please move to Costa Rica or wherever people that say such stupid shit say they are gonna move if it's so "sad" and bad. American's are so full of hyperbole bullshit.
USA = now the United States of Greece (or France)
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:28
MS I'd love you to spend six FULL months in Europe... Once de-brainwashed of all that "America is "1 / Obama is a socialist" BS you probabaly wouldn't want to leave... 
You should rename yourself "Mickscary" of "Mickpathetic"...
America's demise started on Aug. 15, 1971 when Tricky Dick Nixon decoupled the USD from the gold standard i.e. from any.
Seriously do you really think you could get away with with that, printing as much dollar as you wanted was a true recipe for disaster and disaster is NOW!
(btw France is much less in debt than you)
Idiots like you (almost) make me look forward to the day when China @ss-rapes the goof old US of A... (around 2025?)
"Hands up we're here! Hee hee!" >
<
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 19:35 by dcba.
You should rename yourself "Mickscary" of "Mickpathetic"...
America's demise started on Aug. 15, 1971 when Tricky Dick Nixon decoupled the USD from the gold standard i.e. from any.
Seriously do you really think you could get away with with that, printing as much dollar as you wanted was a true recipe for disaster and disaster is NOW!
(btw France is much less in debt than you)
Idiots like you (almost) make me look forward to the day when China @ss-rapes the goof old US of A... (around 2025?)
"Hands up we're here! Hee hee!" >
<Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 19:35 by dcba.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
tipps
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:30
I am thrilled at the news for the USA, I cant even imagine how disastrous it would had been if the other guy won. Thank God.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:32
Quote
2000 LYFHQuote
More Hot RocksQuote
cookwazzahoe
The USA is truly doomed now!!
Really; Ive trippled my money in the stock market over the last 3 1/2 years. yeah really doomed.
Hey Hot Rocks, how's the market treating you today? I'm down 5K in the last hour, wondering where the bottom is, time to start thinking about some buys.
Yes it is a good buy day. Look at CAT, ENOC, DE even AAPL.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:36
Good conquered evil. Romney and the rich cronies could'nt BS their way past the American people.
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
schillid
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:38
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Good conquered evil. Romney and the rich cronies could'nt BS their way past the American people.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:40
Slightly OT but wasn't there a 3rd candidate (a "green" one) that nobody bothers mentioning in the MSM?
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
SomeTorontoGirl
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:40
Apparently every foreign country polled backed Obama, except Israel and, possibly, Pakistan (I've heard mixed reports there). If anyone is interested in what the rest of the world thinks.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
custom55
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:58
I'm still amazed that election after election, Florida is still struggling with voting (hanging chads ) and long lines (aka voter suppression). I'm sure it will be the same story in four years.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
BluzDude
()
Date: November 7, 2012 19:59
Anyone can project the future, but time will tell....and we will disagree about that too.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:03
Quote
SomeTorontoGirl
Apparently every foreign country polled backed Obama, except Israel and, possibly, Pakistan (I've heard mixed reports there). If anyone is interested in what the rest of the world thinks.
And exactly why is that? I think just a few days ago, they were showing people in either Iran or Pakistan burning more American flags and chanting death to Obama. Would love to know who keeps selling these flags over there
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
Edith Grove
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:03
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
Good conquered evil. Romney and the rich cronies could'nt BS their way past the American people.
117.4 million votes cast with a winning margin of only 2.7 million (2.3%)
Not exactly a landslide.
Perhaps that margin reflects the ever-growing entitlement society.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
Edith Grove
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:04
Quote
2000 LYFHQuote
SomeTorontoGirl
Apparently every foreign country polled backed Obama, except Israel and, possibly, Pakistan (I've heard mixed reports there). If anyone is interested in what the rest of the world thinks.
And exactly why is that? I think just a few days ago, they were showing people in either Iran or Pakistan burning more American flags and chanting death to Obama. Would love to know who keeps selling these flags over there
They're made in China, not too far away.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
filstan
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:12
So much hate and venom being spilled. Too many people in the USA watching Fox News and listening to AM hate radio. This began back in the 90's when Fox News(the TV channel that brings all the lies, distortions, and hate all of the time)started to suck people in. AM radio with nasty horrible people like Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter,Savage ad nauseum found a foothold.
Reasonable discourse became progressively more difficult with the drone of Fox News in the background. For example, last night following the reality that Ohio was going to be won by Obama, Karl Rove began crying that it was wrong! It was a mistake, there was still a good chance Romney would pull out a win! Other talking heads went right along with this nonsense. It's as though the Fox News network is operating in some sort of bizzaro parallel universe. Those who watch, view white as black, day as night. Good must be bad, and on and on.
The Tea party agenda and GOP congressional stonewalling was taken to the woodshed last night in the elections, repudiating the senseless party move to the right that gained momentum a few years ago. Both the Dems and especially the GOP need to move back towards the middle. Obama has not governed from the left in his first 4 years, unless you somehow believe that health care reform is some commie pinko plot. Congress needs to go to work, find some consensus, and start moving the country in a more positive direction. I believe Obama will be more open to negotiation and deal making than many on this forum think. In the meantime throw the hate in the backseat will ya? Seriously not healthy to think that way.
Reasonable discourse became progressively more difficult with the drone of Fox News in the background. For example, last night following the reality that Ohio was going to be won by Obama, Karl Rove began crying that it was wrong! It was a mistake, there was still a good chance Romney would pull out a win! Other talking heads went right along with this nonsense. It's as though the Fox News network is operating in some sort of bizzaro parallel universe. Those who watch, view white as black, day as night. Good must be bad, and on and on.
The Tea party agenda and GOP congressional stonewalling was taken to the woodshed last night in the elections, repudiating the senseless party move to the right that gained momentum a few years ago. Both the Dems and especially the GOP need to move back towards the middle. Obama has not governed from the left in his first 4 years, unless you somehow believe that health care reform is some commie pinko plot. Congress needs to go to work, find some consensus, and start moving the country in a more positive direction. I believe Obama will be more open to negotiation and deal making than many on this forum think. In the meantime throw the hate in the backseat will ya? Seriously not healthy to think that way.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:14
Quote
More Hot RocksQuote
2000 LYFHQuote
More Hot RocksQuote
cookwazzahoe
The USA is truly doomed now!!
Really; Ive trippled my money in the stock market over the last 3 1/2 years. yeah really doomed.
Hey Hot Rocks, how's the market treating you today? I'm down 5K in the last hour, wondering where the bottom is, time to start thinking about some buys.
Yes it is a good buy day. Look at CAT, ENOC, DE even AAPL.
Picked up some Apple at $580 last week, someone on CNBC thinks the bottom may be in the upper $400's, but will probably see if it goes down in the 525 range (560 sure looks attractive though). Always liked CAT...
Same here on 2008 lows - Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
duke richardson
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:19
Quote
filstan
So much hate and venom being spilled. Too many people in the USA watching Fox News and listening to AM hate radio. This began back in the 90's when Fox News(the TV channel that brings all the lies, distortions, and hate all of the time)started to suck people in. AM radio with nasty horrible people like Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter,Savage ad nauseum found a foothold.
Reasonable discourse became progressively more difficult with the drone of Fox News in the background. For example, last night following the reality that Ohio was going to be won by Obama, Karl Rove began crying that it was wrong! It was a mistake, there was still a good chance Romney would pull out a win! Other talking heads went right along with this nonsense. It's as though the Fox News network is operating in some sort of bizzaro parallel universe. Those who watch, view white as black, day as night. Good must be bad, and on and on.
The Tea party agenda and GOP congressional stonewalling was taken to the woodshed last night in the elections, repudiating the senseless party move to the right that gained momentum a few years ago. Both the Dems and especially the GOP need to move back towards the middle. Obama has not governed from the left in his first 4 years, unless you somehow believe that health care reform is some commie pinko plot. Congress needs to go to work, find some consensus, and start moving the country in a more positive direction. I believe Obama will be more open to negotiation and deal making than many on this forum think. In the meantime throw the hate in the backseat will ya? Seriously not healthy to think that way.
couldn't agree more, well said filstan
there are reactionary, wrongheaded pundits on the left too
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:21
Romney was a joke - you cant be taken seriously if you're a mormon, I'm sorry but that's a sign of absolute stupidity. Any country that would have mormons as candidate for president or any job - cant never be taken seriously, I mean really..I dont understand why religious people could ever be taken seriously.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
BluzDude
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:27
Quote
2000 LYFHQuote
More Hot RocksQuote
2000 LYFHQuote
More Hot RocksQuote
cookwazzahoe
The USA is truly doomed now!!
Really; Ive trippled my money in the stock market over the last 3 1/2 years. yeah really doomed.
Hey Hot Rocks, how's the market treating you today? I'm down 5K in the last hour, wondering where the bottom is, time to start thinking about some buys.
Yes it is a good buy day. Look at CAT, ENOC, DE even AAPL.
Picked up some Apple at $580 last week, someone on CNBC thinks the bottom may be in the upper $400's, but will probably see if it goes down in the 525 range (560 sure looks attractive though). Always liked CAT...
Same here on 2008 lows - Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful
I've watched my Apple stock go from $525 where I bought it to over $700 and back down. If it dips into the $400's I will buy more. Caterpillar is a good strong company. If it dips below a certain point, I would consider buying more.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
1cdog
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:34
Liberals and Dead-Enders prevailed in last nights Presidential election.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
andrewm
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:41
"Canadians, I believe, pay about 40% of their income in taxes for free healthcare and college education."
Where on earth did you get that figure from? First of all, the Federal taxation rate for Canada tops out at 29% (I'm looking at last years' tax return right now), and that's if you make over 130k/year. For most of us, it's between 22 and 25%. Health care is not free unless you are below the poverty line, you pay a nominal monthly fee or you have coverage through your work. And what on earth does college education have to do with income tax rates? It certainly ain't free here. Get your facts straight.
Oh, and congratulations America and Washington State in particular! Same-sex marriage and legalization marijuana in one fell swoop. A road trip down the I-5 to Seattle just got more appealing 'cos we won't have to go without.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 20:46 by andrewm.
Where on earth did you get that figure from? First of all, the Federal taxation rate for Canada tops out at 29% (I'm looking at last years' tax return right now), and that's if you make over 130k/year. For most of us, it's between 22 and 25%. Health care is not free unless you are below the poverty line, you pay a nominal monthly fee or you have coverage through your work. And what on earth does college education have to do with income tax rates? It certainly ain't free here. Get your facts straight.
Oh, and congratulations America and Washington State in particular! Same-sex marriage and legalization marijuana in one fell swoop. A road trip down the I-5 to Seattle just got more appealing 'cos we won't have to go without.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 20:46 by andrewm.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:42
"I don't understand why religous people could ever be taken seriously"
I don't understand why anyone who makes a comment like that can be taken seriously.
Religion is far more important than politics. While I may pull for a certain cadidate I put my faith in God not any political party. Who do you put your faith in?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 20:51 by FrankM.
I don't understand why anyone who makes a comment like that can be taken seriously.
Religion is far more important than politics. While I may pull for a certain cadidate I put my faith in God not any political party. Who do you put your faith in?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-07 20:51 by FrankM.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
VT22
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:44
I wanted to post this yesterday actually, but thanks anyway.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
filstan
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:45
Quote
duke richardsonQuote
filstan
So much hate and venom being spilled. Too many people in the USA watching Fox News and listening to AM hate radio. This began back in the 90's when Fox News(the TV channel that brings all the lies, distortions, and hate all of the time)started to suck people in. AM radio with nasty horrible people like Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter,Savage ad nauseum found a foothold.
Reasonable discourse became progressively more difficult with the drone of Fox News in the background. For example, last night following the reality that Ohio was going to be won by Obama, Karl Rove began crying that it was wrong! It was a mistake, there was still a good chance Romney would pull out a win! Other talking heads went right along with this nonsense. It's as though the Fox News network is operating in some sort of bizzaro parallel universe. Those who watch, view white as black, day as night. Good must be bad, and on and on.
The Tea party agenda and GOP congressional stonewalling was taken to the woodshed last night in the elections, repudiating the senseless party move to the right that gained momentum a few years ago. Both the Dems and especially the GOP need to move back towards the middle. Obama has not governed from the left in his first 4 years, unless you somehow believe that health care reform is some commie pinko plot. Congress needs to go to work, find some consensus, and start moving the country in a more positive direction. I believe Obama will be more open to negotiation and deal making than many on this forum think. In the meantime throw the hate in the backseat will ya? Seriously not healthy to think that way.
couldn't agree more, well said filstan
there are reactionary, wrongheaded pundits on the left too
Yes, you are correct, but it really pales in comparison. Take Donald Trump's latest blathering from last night. What a dick.
Re: OT : Obama Re-Elected U.S. President
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: November 7, 2012 20:46
Quote
filstan
So much hate and venom being spilled. Too many people in the USA watching Fox News and listening to AM hate radio. This began back in the 90's when Fox News(the TV channel that brings all the lies, distortions, and hate all of the time)started to suck people in. AM radio with nasty horrible people like Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter,Savage ad nauseum found a foothold.
Reasonable discourse became progressively more difficult with the drone of Fox News in the background. For example, last night following the reality that Ohio was going to be won by Obama, Karl Rove began crying that it was wrong! It was a mistake, there was still a good chance Romney would pull out a win! Other talking heads went right along with this nonsense. It's as though the Fox News network is operating in some sort of bizzaro parallel universe. Those who watch, view white as black, day as night. Good must be bad, and on and on.
The Tea party agenda and GOP congressional stonewalling was taken to the woodshed last night in the elections, repudiating the senseless party move to the right that gained momentum a few years ago. Both the Dems and especially the GOP need to move back towards the middle. Obama has not governed from the left in his first 4 years, unless you somehow believe that health care reform is some commie pinko plot. Congress needs to go to work, find some consensus, and start moving the country in a more positive direction. I believe Obama will be more open to negotiation and deal making than many on this forum think. In the meantime throw the hate in the backseat will ya? Seriously not healthy to think that way.
There is plenty of hate and venom on both sides of the aisle- if you don't agree then you are simply delusional.
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