Tell Me :
Talk
In the case of playing it on a regular CD-player, it's the DSD mastering who does the trick (not the DSD layer).
It would indeed be interesting, when ABKCO would release Bob Ludwig's recent DSD remaster also on SACD or as DSD files (but the latter is rather unlikely).
[www.jpc.de]
Not much better on [www.Platomania.nl] - € 49.99.
But it's € 29.99 at [Platenzaak.nl] and [www.Bravado.de] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 16:35 by Irix.
.
PS. It would be interesting to check if BRAVADO provides correct information about mono/stereo versions.
Actually, the whole set of reissues in mini vinyl sleeves is very nice if you are a collector of stamps
.
Sure, they would be even better if 7" sleeves were used but not 5".
You deserve super hard material (SHM)!
Thanks.
The Rolling Stones No. 2 [SHM-CD] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] [Limited Release]
[www.universal-music.co.jp]
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]
This release of More Hot Rocks, as stated above, is 'SHM-CD in mini vinyl sleeve' reproduction of 2022 US/EU LP edition. I.e., with initial track list, without bonus tracks added in 2002. And I am positive it is mastered differently comparing to 2002 version.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-25 16:42 by ironbelly.
So my question on this is, is it an improvement over the 2002 SACD release which I think is generally regarded as the digital highwater mark?
Probably not really, since this 2023 re-release is a normal Audio-CD (PCM 44.1kHz/16bit) while the 2002 SACD is based on the DSD format (2.8MHz/1bit).
But maybe some newer masterings by Bob Ludwig were used?
Judging previous releases
- Big Hits (High Tide And Green Grass) UK [UICY-79022]
- Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2) UK [UICY-79023]
- Hot Rocks 1964-1971 [UICY-79767/8]
they utilized:
for mono tracks - 2016 mastering almost identical to In Mono box (other than small level shift). Some of those tracks came from the same tape transfer as 2002 SACD, some from new (but very similar) 2016 tape transfer.
for stereo tracks from TMSR, BB and LIB - mastering that was used for corresponding 50th Anniversary editions (plus-minus negligible level shift to fit the compilation). I.e., new mastering by Bob Ludwig. It is different from 2002.
for assorted stereo tracks (and singles from 1966-1969: Paint It, Black, Ruby Tuesday, LSTNT, We Love You, Dandelion, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Honky Tonk Women) - new mastering, different from 2002. In some cases (e.g. Time Is On My Side from Hot Rocks) it is obvious that they used unprocessed tape transfers. I.e., glitches and other tape defects were not cleaned like for 2002 SACD-hybrid editions and 2016 In Mono box.
I do not know if these versions can be called major improvements. They are different to 2002 versions. Some sound more natural, some a bit more rough and harsh. At least in one case (LSTNT) equalization is very unpleasant. On the other hand - stereo PIB is wider, comparing to 2002 version. Ruby Tuesday - correct mix with overdubs but different tape transfer and mastering with respect to Rolled Gold + (2007).
I believe on this More Hot Rocks they will follow the same pattern - mono tracks from In Mono box, stereo album tracks from TSMR, BB and LIB - 50th Anniversary editions, assorted stereo tracks - new mastering (not necessarily better than 2002, unless you like the approach Bob Ludwig used recently for Anniversary editions).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-27 18:18 by ironbelly.
Get real. Who on this thread isn't collecting stamps?!
Me. But I like looking at stamp collections.
I congratulate you on your self-control!
Talk about your favorite band.
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More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 24, 2023 12:25
More Hot Rocks [SHM-CD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
50th Anniversary edition
Catalog No.UICY-80323
JAN/ISBN 4988031585917
Product Type SHM-CD
Number of Discs 2
Official announcement in Japanese
[www.universal-music.co.jp]
- Remastered by Bob Ludwig (probably sourced from 2016 mono and 2017/2019 Anniversary editions)
- Paper jacket that reproduces the 2022 US/EU LP edition in miniature
- Reprinted OBI that reproduces the one used for 1997 edition (POCD-1975/6).
- 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP
- 2 print sets photographed by Gerred Mankowitz
- SHM-CD
- Commentary, lyrics, translation included
- Original track list. No bonus tracks. (This is not reissue of 2002 edition)
Link to cdjapan
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 14:27 by ironbelly.
50th Anniversary edition
Catalog No.UICY-80323
JAN/ISBN 4988031585917
Product Type SHM-CD
Number of Discs 2
Official announcement in Japanese
[www.universal-music.co.jp]
- Remastered by Bob Ludwig (probably sourced from 2016 mono and 2017/2019 Anniversary editions)
- Paper jacket that reproduces the 2022 US/EU LP edition in miniature
- Reprinted OBI that reproduces the one used for 1997 edition (POCD-1975/6).
- 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP
- 2 print sets photographed by Gerred Mankowitz
- SHM-CD
- Commentary, lyrics, translation included
- Original track list. No bonus tracks. (This is not reissue of 2002 edition)
Link to cdjapan
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 14:27 by ironbelly.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 24, 2023 12:36
Large version of the above picture.
Release date: 29-Sep-2023.
In the United States the release date seems to be 06-Oct-2023 - [www.BarnesAndNoble.com] .
Also available e.g. at [Tower.jp] , [Platenzaak.nl] , [www.Platomania.nl] , [www.jpc.de] , [www.Bravado.de] .
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 16:30 by Irix.
Release date: 29-Sep-2023.
In the United States the release date seems to be 06-Oct-2023 - [www.BarnesAndNoble.com] .
Also available e.g. at [Tower.jp] , [Platenzaak.nl] , [www.Platomania.nl] , [www.jpc.de] , [www.Bravado.de] .
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 16:30 by Irix.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: August 24, 2023 12:54
I loved Hot Rocks more than Hot Rocks. (Although I guess Hot Rocks was a good primer if you were still a bit of a novice.) But More Hot Rocks really got deep into things. And there were a few cuts like Poison Ivy, Money, Fortune Teller, What to Do. (At least I don't they were).
It would interest me if I had to replace what I have, but that's the 2002 ABKCO SACDs and they're fantastic, even if I don't have a SACD player, the DSD layer does the trick.
It would interest me if I had to replace what I have, but that's the 2002 ABKCO SACDs and they're fantastic, even if I don't have a SACD player, the DSD layer does the trick.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 24, 2023 13:20
Quote
24FPS
the DSD layer does the trick
In the case of playing it on a regular CD-player, it's the DSD mastering who does the trick (not the DSD layer).
It would indeed be interesting, when ABKCO would release Bob Ludwig's recent DSD remaster also on SACD or as DSD files (but the latter is rather unlikely).
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 24, 2023 13:41
I just noticed in the announcement from UM Japan that this will be worldwide release. Maybe another variant (with catalog number containing letter K) will appeared soon for the rest of the world. They did it for Hot Rocks and for SHM-CDs from In Mono box in 2022. That one (with K) might be cheaper for EU customers considering elimination of S&H from Japan and VAT/Import taxes. Although, current offer from jpc.de does not look promising in terms of price.
[www.jpc.de]
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 24, 2023 15:00
Quote
ironbelly
current offer from jpc.de does not look promising in terms of price
Not much better on [www.Platomania.nl] - € 49.99.
But it's € 29.99 at [Platenzaak.nl] and [www.Bravado.de] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-24 16:35 by Irix.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 24, 2023 17:33
These are better. Let's wait for amazon and FNACQuote
IrixQuote
ironbelly
current offer from jpc.de does not look promising in terms of price
Not much better on [www.Platomania.nl] - € 49.99.
But it's € 29.99 at [Platenzaak.nl] and [www.Bravado.de] .
.PS. It would be interesting to check if BRAVADO provides correct information about mono/stereo versions.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: August 24, 2023 17:59
I’m glad to get some recognition.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Rank Stranger
()
Date: August 24, 2023 19:16
So is this a ( sort of ) companion to the 2022 release of "Hot Rocks"
UICY 79767
discussed in the "Happy" fanzine here:
[iorr.org]
UICY 79767
discussed in the "Happy" fanzine here:
[iorr.org]
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
rogerriffin
()
Date: August 24, 2023 19:30
not flow in the dark discs this time...
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 24, 2023 22:38
Yes. This is another 50th Anniversary re-issue. It might be considered as a complementary to that Hot Rocks 1964-1971 [UICY-79767/8]. And also loosely connected to 50th Anniversary re-issues of Big Hits (High Tide And Green Grass) UK [UICY-79022] and Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2) UK [UICY-79023] from 2019. But these were Japanese only and are out of print.Quote
Rank Stranger
So is this a ( sort of ) companion to the 2022 release of "Hot Rocks"
UICY 79767
discussed in the "Happy" fanzine here:
[iorr.org]
Actually, the whole set of reissues in mini vinyl sleeves is very nice if you are a collector of stamps
.Sure, they would be even better if 7" sleeves were used but not 5".
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 24, 2023 22:43
Quote
More Hot Rocks
I’m glad to get some recognition.
You deserve super hard material (SHM)!
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
UrbanSteel
()
Date: August 25, 2023 15:41
Quote
Irix
Large version of the above picture.
Release date: 29-Sep-2023.
In the United States the release date seems to be 06-Oct-2023 - [www.BarnesAndNoble.com] .
Also available e.g. at [Tower.jp] , [Platenzaak.nl] , [www.Platomania.nl] , [www.jpc.de] , [www.Bravado.de] .
Thanks.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 25, 2023 15:45
Already on pre-order on amazon France
[www.amazon.fr]
[www.amazon.fr]
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
jp.M
()
Date: August 25, 2023 16:05
... Only 13 titles on. disc 2 in place of the
16 of the last cd édition... ( where is the great and long "everybody needs somebody to love"?)
16 of the last cd édition... ( where is the great and long "everybody needs somebody to love"?)
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 25, 2023 16:39
Where it should beQuote
jp.M
... Only 13 titles on. disc 2 in place of the
16 of the last cd édition... ( where is the great and long "everybody needs somebody to love"?)
The Rolling Stones No. 2 [SHM-CD] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] [Limited Release]
[www.universal-music.co.jp]
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]
This release of More Hot Rocks, as stated above, is 'SHM-CD in mini vinyl sleeve' reproduction of 2022 US/EU LP edition. I.e., with initial track list, without bonus tracks added in 2002. And I am positive it is mastered differently comparing to 2002 version.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-25 16:42 by ironbelly.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
UrbanSteel
()
Date: August 26, 2023 19:55
I have bought the More Hot Rocks 2SHM-CD Set at CD-Japan.
Selling price is: 3619yen
(3981yen Tax incl. in Japan)
EUR 22.89
Total with reward points, registered mail and customs is €36,98 EUR.
Limited edition
Remastered sound source by Bob Ludwig
Paper jacket specification that reproduces the 2022 US/EU common LP in miniature
CD band released in 1997 is reprinted.
Includes 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP -Includes 2
print sets photographed by Gered Mankowitz
SHM-CD specification
Commentary, lyrics, and translation included
Catalog No.UICY-80323
JAN/ISBN: : 4988031585917
Product TypeCD SHM-CD
Number of Discs2
Label/DistributorUNIVERSAL MUSIC
Selling price is: 3619yen
(3981yen Tax incl. in Japan)
EUR 22.89
Total with reward points, registered mail and customs is €36,98 EUR.
Limited edition
Remastered sound source by Bob Ludwig
Paper jacket specification that reproduces the 2022 US/EU common LP in miniature
CD band released in 1997 is reprinted.
Includes 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP -Includes 2
print sets photographed by Gered Mankowitz
SHM-CD specification
Commentary, lyrics, and translation included
Catalog No.UICY-80323
JAN/ISBN: : 4988031585917
Product TypeCD SHM-CD
Number of Discs2
Label/DistributorUNIVERSAL MUSIC
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Lynd8
()
Date: August 27, 2023 15:15
My parents had "Hot Rocks" and played it all the time when it came out. I was only about 9-10 at the time, but the songs must have locked in my mind LOL. About 6-7 years later, my sister brought home "Some Girls" and I began to really get hooked on these guys LOL. It was another three years (I was 19) that I bought my very own first RS album - "Tattoo You" and shortly after that I picked up "More Hot Rocks" - what great compilation it was considering all the stone-cold classics from the 60s were already on the first set. I really enjoyed MHR - so much that it really got me on the journey to buying their entire catalog over the next year and being a life-long fan. They've been there for me like the sun and moon, it's going to be a very sad day when they hang it up - maybe I will be hung up too though LOL, we were both "established" in 1962!
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 27, 2023 17:25
Quote
UrbanSteel
I have bought the More Hot Rocks 2SHM-CD Set at CD-Japan.
Selling price is: 3619yen
(3981yen Tax incl. in Japan)
EUR 22.89
Total with reward points, registered mail and customs is €36,98 EUR.
Limited edition
Remastered sound source by Bob Ludwig
Paper jacket specification that reproduces the 2022 US/EU common LP in miniature
CD band released in 1997 is reprinted.
Includes 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP -Includes 2
print sets photographed by Gered Mankowitz
SHM-CD specification
Commentary, lyrics, and translation included
Catalog No.UICY-80323
JAN/ISBN: : 4988031585917
Product TypeCD SHM-CD
Number of Discs2
Label/DistributorUNIVERSAL MUSIC
So my question on this is, is it an improvement over the 2002 SACD release which I think is generally regarded as the digital highwater mark?
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 27, 2023 17:30
Quote
treaclefingers
is it an improvement over the 2002 SACD release
Probably not really, since this 2023 re-release is a normal Audio-CD (PCM 44.1kHz/16bit) while the 2002 SACD is based on the DSD format (2.8MHz/1bit).
But maybe some newer masterings by Bob Ludwig were used?
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 27, 2023 18:15
All recent releases are based on DSD tape transfer. But they were converted and downsampled to regular CDDA 44.1kHz/16bit.Quote
IrixQuote
treaclefingers
is it an improvement over the 2002 SACD release
Probably not really, since this 2023 re-release is a normal Audio-CD (PCM 44.1kHz/16bit) while the 2002 SACD is based on the DSD format (2.8MHz/1bit).
But maybe some newer masterings by Bob Ludwig were used?
Judging previous releases
- Big Hits (High Tide And Green Grass) UK [UICY-79022]
- Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2) UK [UICY-79023]
- Hot Rocks 1964-1971 [UICY-79767/8]
they utilized:
for mono tracks - 2016 mastering almost identical to In Mono box (other than small level shift). Some of those tracks came from the same tape transfer as 2002 SACD, some from new (but very similar) 2016 tape transfer.
for stereo tracks from TMSR, BB and LIB - mastering that was used for corresponding 50th Anniversary editions (plus-minus negligible level shift to fit the compilation). I.e., new mastering by Bob Ludwig. It is different from 2002.
for assorted stereo tracks (and singles from 1966-1969: Paint It, Black, Ruby Tuesday, LSTNT, We Love You, Dandelion, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Honky Tonk Women) - new mastering, different from 2002. In some cases (e.g. Time Is On My Side from Hot Rocks) it is obvious that they used unprocessed tape transfers. I.e., glitches and other tape defects were not cleaned like for 2002 SACD-hybrid editions and 2016 In Mono box.
I do not know if these versions can be called major improvements. They are different to 2002 versions. Some sound more natural, some a bit more rough and harsh. At least in one case (LSTNT) equalization is very unpleasant. On the other hand - stereo PIB is wider, comparing to 2002 version. Ruby Tuesday - correct mix with overdubs but different tape transfer and mastering with respect to Rolled Gold + (2007).
I believe on this More Hot Rocks they will follow the same pattern - mono tracks from In Mono box, stereo album tracks from TSMR, BB and LIB - 50th Anniversary editions, assorted stereo tracks - new mastering (not necessarily better than 2002, unless you like the approach Bob Ludwig used recently for Anniversary editions).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-08-27 18:18 by ironbelly.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: August 29, 2023 17:33
Currently for EU customers the cheapest option for the edition that will be sold around the globe (excluding Japan) are from FNAC France and amazon France - 27.99€.
[www.fnac.com]
[www.amazon.fr]
Keep in mind that this edition might come without (or with shortened version of) Japanese booklet. Guess, this factor is not important to those who do not 'collect stamps'.
The same version (barcode 0018771215622) should appear for US and Canada too.
[www.fnac.com]
[www.amazon.fr]
Keep in mind that this edition might come without (or with shortened version of) Japanese booklet. Guess, this factor is not important to those who do not 'collect stamps'.
The same version (barcode 0018771215622) should appear for US and Canada too.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 29, 2023 18:19
Quote
ironbelly
Currently for EU customers the cheapest option for the edition that will be sold around the globe (excluding Japan) are from FNAC France and amazon France - 27.99€.
[www.fnac.com]
[www.amazon.fr]
Keep in mind that this edition might come without (or with shortened version of) Japanese booklet. Guess, this factor is not important to those who do not 'collect stamps'.
The same version (barcode 0018771215622) should appear for US and Canada too.
Get real. Who on this thread isn't collecting stamps?!
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 29, 2023 18:30
Quote
treaclefingers
Who on this thread isn't collecting stamps?!
Me. But I like looking at stamp collections.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 29, 2023 18:33
Quote
IrixQuote
treaclefingers
Who on this thread isn't collecting stamps?!
Me. But I like looking at stamp collections.
I congratulate you on your self-control!
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: September 30, 2023 12:45
The Rolling Stones - More Hot Rocks (Big Hits and Fazed Cookies) (2023)
Label: ABKCO / Universal Japan
Catalog Number: UICY-80323K / 4K
Country: Japan for the ROW
Barcode: 018771215622
Format: Compilation, 2*SHM-CD, In Mini LP Sleeve.
Released: 29-09-2023
CD 1: UICY-80323
Matrix CD 1: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80323 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould Code: IFPI 4011
CD 2: UICY-80324
Matrix CD 2: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80324 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould SID Code: IFPI 4011
Made in: Japan
Tracks
CD 1:
01-Tell Me 3:50
02-Not Fade Away 1:49
03-The Last Time 3:43
04-It's All Over Now 3:27
05-Good Times, Bad Times 2:32
06-I'm Free 2:25
07-Out of Time 3:43
08-Lady Jane 3:09
09-Sittin' on a Fence 3:04
10-Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? 2:36
11-Dandelion 3:33
12-We Love You 4:26
Tracks 1 – 3, 5, 6, 10 MONO
Tracks 4, 7 – 9, 11, 12 STEREO
Track 01-Tell Me fades late but does not end cold.
Track 11-Dandelion does not have a loop to Track 12-We Love You.
Track 12-We Love You does not have a loop to Track 11-Dandelion.
CD 2:
01-She's A Rainbow 4:14
02-2000 Light Years From Home 4:47
03-Child Of The Moon 3:11
04-No Expectations 3:57
05-Let It Bleed 5:30
06-What To Do 2:34
07-Money 2:33
08-Come On 1:50
09-Fortune Teller 2:20
10-Poison Ivy 2:37
11-Bye Bye Johny 2:12
12-I Can't Be Satisfied 3:28
13-Long Long While 3:02
Tracks 1 – 6, 12 STEREO
Tracks 7 – 11, 13 MONO
Track 01-She’s A Rainbow does not have a carnival intro.
Track 10-Poison Ivy is longer faster version with wood block percussion (usually referred as Version 1).
Package:
- Outer resealable plastic sleeve.
- Paper jacket reproduces in miniature the Record Store Day 2022 US/EU LP edition.
- OBI that reproduces (to some extent) the one used for 1997 2CD Japanese edition POCD-1975/6.
- Replicas of 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP.
- 2 print sets photographed by Gerred Mankowitz
- 2*SHM-CD in protective plastic sleeves
Black and white Japanese booklet with a commentary and lyrics in English and Japanese is absent. Apparently, it will be present for Japanese only edition (the one without letter K in catalog number).
Track list is reverted to original. I.e., 12 tracks for CD1 and 13 tracks for CD2. No bonus tracks like on 2002 reissue.
Digital content: Remastered by Bob Ludwig. Based on recent reissues.
All mono tracks originated from 2016 tape transfer/mastering that was used for In Mono box. Here they got a 'cosmetic' lift. Like small changes in loudness to match the compilation.
Stereo tracks are new, not identical to 2002 versions.
CD1
04-It's All Over Now new tape transfer, not identical to 2002. Better separation of bass and trebles between channels.
07-Out of Time new tape transfer, not like 2002 version. It has a lot of hiss. Either they uses here an unprocessed digital file or tape transfer was done from an inferior tape source.
08-Lady Jane new tape transfer and mastering. The track is louder compared to 2002 and differently equalized. Also, it runs a notch faster.
09-Sittin' on a Fence new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023].
11-Dandelion new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. The stereo scene is wider here comparing to 2002 version due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-We Love You for the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Although, it seems that this version and the one from 2002 originated from the same tape transfer they are different. The track from 2002 has loud ‘click’ by the end of the track (4:16) in the left channel. This sound was removed in 2019. Also, equalization for 2019 (and 2023) track is different.
CD2
01-She's A Rainbow. A kind of copy-paste from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017) but without carnival intro. Also, the track was adjusted in terms in loudness. These adjustments were not done uniformly. I.e., parts of the song with vocals were made louder (more compressed) comparing to the others. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Tape transfer and mastering approaches are different to 2002.
02-2000 Light Years From Home originated from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017). Different tape transfer and mastering compared to 2002.
03-Child Of The Moon apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer. Tracks from 2002 and 2023 CDs stay in sync. Although 2023 version is equalized differently with respect to 2002.
04-No Expectations originated from 50th Anniversary edition of Beggars Banquet (2018). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
05-Let It Bleed originated from 50th Anniversary edition of stereo version Let It Bleed (2019). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
06-What To Do new tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002. Track has wider stereo scene due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-I Can't Be Satisfied apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer but is equalized differently.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-30 20:28 by ironbelly.
Label: ABKCO / Universal Japan
Catalog Number: UICY-80323K / 4K
Country: Japan for the ROW
Barcode: 018771215622
Format: Compilation, 2*SHM-CD, In Mini LP Sleeve.
Released: 29-09-2023
CD 1: UICY-80323
Matrix CD 1: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80323 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould Code: IFPI 4011
CD 2: UICY-80324
Matrix CD 2: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80324 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould SID Code: IFPI 4011
Made in: Japan
Tracks
CD 1:
01-Tell Me 3:50
02-Not Fade Away 1:49
03-The Last Time 3:43
04-It's All Over Now 3:27
05-Good Times, Bad Times 2:32
06-I'm Free 2:25
07-Out of Time 3:43
08-Lady Jane 3:09
09-Sittin' on a Fence 3:04
10-Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? 2:36
11-Dandelion 3:33
12-We Love You 4:26
Tracks 1 – 3, 5, 6, 10 MONO
Tracks 4, 7 – 9, 11, 12 STEREO
Track 01-Tell Me fades late but does not end cold.
Track 11-Dandelion does not have a loop to Track 12-We Love You.
Track 12-We Love You does not have a loop to Track 11-Dandelion.
CD 2:
01-She's A Rainbow 4:14
02-2000 Light Years From Home 4:47
03-Child Of The Moon 3:11
04-No Expectations 3:57
05-Let It Bleed 5:30
06-What To Do 2:34
07-Money 2:33
08-Come On 1:50
09-Fortune Teller 2:20
10-Poison Ivy 2:37
11-Bye Bye Johny 2:12
12-I Can't Be Satisfied 3:28
13-Long Long While 3:02
Tracks 1 – 6, 12 STEREO
Tracks 7 – 11, 13 MONO
Track 01-She’s A Rainbow does not have a carnival intro.
Track 10-Poison Ivy is longer faster version with wood block percussion (usually referred as Version 1).
Package:
- Outer resealable plastic sleeve.
- Paper jacket reproduces in miniature the Record Store Day 2022 US/EU LP edition.
- OBI that reproduces (to some extent) the one used for 1997 2CD Japanese edition POCD-1975/6.
- Replicas of 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP.
- 2 print sets photographed by Gerred Mankowitz
- 2*SHM-CD in protective plastic sleeves
Black and white Japanese booklet with a commentary and lyrics in English and Japanese is absent. Apparently, it will be present for Japanese only edition (the one without letter K in catalog number).
Track list is reverted to original. I.e., 12 tracks for CD1 and 13 tracks for CD2. No bonus tracks like on 2002 reissue.
Digital content: Remastered by Bob Ludwig. Based on recent reissues.
All mono tracks originated from 2016 tape transfer/mastering that was used for In Mono box. Here they got a 'cosmetic' lift. Like small changes in loudness to match the compilation.
Stereo tracks are new, not identical to 2002 versions.
CD1
04-It's All Over Now new tape transfer, not identical to 2002. Better separation of bass and trebles between channels.
07-Out of Time new tape transfer, not like 2002 version. It has a lot of hiss. Either they uses here an unprocessed digital file or tape transfer was done from an inferior tape source.
08-Lady Jane new tape transfer and mastering. The track is louder compared to 2002 and differently equalized. Also, it runs a notch faster.
09-Sittin' on a Fence new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023].
11-Dandelion new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. The stereo scene is wider here comparing to 2002 version due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-We Love You for the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Although, it seems that this version and the one from 2002 originated from the same tape transfer they are different. The track from 2002 has loud ‘click’ by the end of the track (4:16) in the left channel. This sound was removed in 2019. Also, equalization for 2019 (and 2023) track is different.
CD2
01-She's A Rainbow. A kind of copy-paste from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017) but without carnival intro. Also, the track was adjusted in terms in loudness. These adjustments were not done uniformly. I.e., parts of the song with vocals were made louder (more compressed) comparing to the others. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Tape transfer and mastering approaches are different to 2002.
02-2000 Light Years From Home originated from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017). Different tape transfer and mastering compared to 2002.
03-Child Of The Moon apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer. Tracks from 2002 and 2023 CDs stay in sync. Although 2023 version is equalized differently with respect to 2002.
04-No Expectations originated from 50th Anniversary edition of Beggars Banquet (2018). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
05-Let It Bleed originated from 50th Anniversary edition of stereo version Let It Bleed (2019). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
06-What To Do new tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002. Track has wider stereo scene due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-I Can't Be Satisfied apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer but is equalized differently.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-30 20:28 by ironbelly.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
Rank Stranger
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Date: October 10, 2023 17:54
Thank you very much for your detailed information Ironbelly.
Got my copy now from JPC for € 29,99 postage free, which is okay with me.
[www.jpc.de]
Got my copy now from JPC for € 29,99 postage free, which is okay with me.
[www.jpc.de]
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
Posted by:
exilestones
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Date: October 11, 2023 17:26
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ironbelly
The Rolling Stones - More Hot Rocks (Big Hits and Fazed Cookies) (2023)
Label: ABKCO / Universal Japan
Catalog Number: UICY-80323K / 4K
Country: Japan for the ROW
Barcode: 018771215622
Format: Compilation, 2*SHM-CD, In Mini LP Sleeve.
Released: 29-09-2023
CD 1: UICY-80323
Matrix CD 1: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80323 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould Code: IFPI 4011
CD 2: UICY-80324
Matrix CD 2: (4 X Universal Logo) UICY-80324 1W
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L244
Mould SID Code: IFPI 4011
Made in: Japan
Tracks
CD 1:
01-Tell Me 3:50
02-Not Fade Away 1:49
03-The Last Time 3:43
04-It's All Over Now 3:27
05-Good Times, Bad Times 2:32
06-I'm Free 2:25
07-Out of Time 3:43
08-Lady Jane 3:09
09-Sittin' on a Fence 3:04
10-Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? 2:36
11-Dandelion 3:33
12-We Love You 4:26
Tracks 1 – 3, 5, 6, 10 MONO
Tracks 4, 7 – 9, 11, 12 STEREO
Track 01-Tell Me fades late but does not end cold.
Track 11-Dandelion does not have a loop to Track 12-We Love You.
Track 12-We Love You does not have a loop to Track 11-Dandelion.
CD 2:
01-She's A Rainbow 4:14
02-2000 Light Years From Home 4:47
03-Child Of The Moon 3:11
04-No Expectations 3:57
05-Let It Bleed 5:30
06-What To Do 2:34
07-Money 2:33
08-Come On 1:50
09-Fortune Teller 2:20
10-Poison Ivy 2:37
11-Bye Bye Johny 2:12
12-I Can't Be Satisfied 3:28
13-Long Long While 3:02
Tracks 1 – 6, 12 STEREO
Tracks 7 – 11, 13 MONO
Track 01-She’s A Rainbow does not have a carnival intro.
Track 10-Poison Ivy is longer faster version with wood block percussion (usually referred as Version 1).
Package:
- Outer resealable plastic sleeve.
- Paper jacket reproduces in miniature the Record Store Day 2022 US/EU LP edition.
- OBI that reproduces (to some extent) the one used for 1997 2CD Japanese edition POCD-1975/6.
- Replicas of 2 inner sleeves that came with the original LP.
- 2 print sets photographed by Gerred Mankowitz
- 2*SHM-CD in protective plastic sleeves
Black and white Japanese booklet with a commentary and lyrics in English and Japanese is absent. Apparently, it will be present for Japanese only edition (the one without letter K in catalog number).
Track list is reverted to original. I.e., 12 tracks for CD1 and 13 tracks for CD2. No bonus tracks like on 2002 reissue.
Digital content: Remastered by Bob Ludwig. Based on recent reissues.
All mono tracks originated from 2016 tape transfer/mastering that was used for In Mono box. Here they got a 'cosmetic' lift. Like small changes in loudness to match the compilation.
Stereo tracks are new, not identical to 2002 versions.
CD1
04-It's All Over Now new tape transfer, not identical to 2002. Better separation of bass and trebles between channels.
07-Out of Time new tape transfer, not like 2002 version. It has a lot of hiss. Either they uses here an unprocessed digital file or tape transfer was done from an inferior tape source.
08-Lady Jane new tape transfer and mastering. The track is louder compared to 2002 and differently equalized. Also, it runs a notch faster.
09-Sittin' on a Fence new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023].
11-Dandelion new tape transfer and mastering. Different from 2002 version. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. The stereo scene is wider here comparing to 2002 version due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-We Love You for the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Although, it seems that this version and the one from 2002 originated from the same tape transfer they are different. The track from 2002 has loud ‘click’ by the end of the track (4:16) in the left channel. This sound was removed in 2019. Also, equalization for 2019 (and 2023) track is different.
CD2
01-She's A Rainbow. A kind of copy-paste from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017) but without carnival intro. Also, the track was adjusted in terms in loudness. These adjustments were not done uniformly. I.e., parts of the song with vocals were made louder (more compressed) comparing to the others. For the first time the track in this form appeared in 2019 on Japanese only SHM-CD Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2), UK version [UICY-79023]. Tape transfer and mastering approaches are different to 2002.
02-2000 Light Years From Home originated from stereo version of 50th Anniversary edition of Their Satanic Majesties Request (2017). Different tape transfer and mastering compared to 2002.
03-Child Of The Moon apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer. Tracks from 2002 and 2023 CDs stay in sync. Although 2023 version is equalized differently with respect to 2002.
04-No Expectations originated from 50th Anniversary edition of Beggars Banquet (2018). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
05-Let It Bleed originated from 50th Anniversary edition of stereo version Let It Bleed (2019). Different tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002.
06-What To Do new tape transfer and mastering with respect to 2002. Track has wider stereo scene due to better bass/treble separation between channels.
12-I Can't Be Satisfied apparently originated from 2002 tape transfer but is equalized differently.
Re: More Hot Rocks SHM-CD 2023
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MrForeverMusicFan
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Date: December 15, 2023 07:31
What does the phrase 'fazed cookies' mean?
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