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100% agree. Some guys to suck lemon all day., They don´t like anything. All is always crap or bad.

Well, nobody need to buy stones records or to see show.

If you don´t want ... don´t buy. but don´t disturb who want to buy records and tickets.

I never read a positive messagem from 5 or 6 guus here, All always is negative.

come on....

ah, don´t post that ridiculous post "go team", please.

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ZantiMisfit
This board is hysterical--these are the "real fans" that the Stones are supposed to reward??? As long as I've read this board it's been nothing but people complaining--Keith can't play anymore, A Bigger Bang--the album & tour--sucked, Ronnie Wood is awful, Chuck Leavell is terrible, Darryl Jones is no Bill Wyman, Mick can't sing like he used to, they're a Vegas act since '89, they're greedy, they haven't done anything worthwhile since '69--'72--'81--take your pick, the new Greatest Hits album is an insult, the new song is horrible...and on an on and on...yet you want to go to the shows??? Why? So you can stand there with your arms folded and a scowl on your face the whole time, impatient to get back to your computer and tell everyone how awful Keith's playing was, etc., etc...
If I were the Stones I would rather take may chances with a bunch of people who knew a few songs and had the money to spend to go and just have a good time. The "real fans" on this board deserve nothing--their reward is the "thrill" they get from their infantile, incessant complaining and moaning and whining...they are just SO knowledgeable. Get a life and stop coming here if you hate them so much, "real fans." You won't be missed.
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

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...This is anti-rock'n'roll...

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ZantiMisfit
This board is hysterical--these are the "real fans" that the Stones are supposed to reward??? As long as I've read this board it's been nothing but people complaining--Keith can't play anymore, A Bigger Bang--the album & tour--sucked, Ronnie Wood is awful, Chuck Leavell is terrible, Darryl Jones is no Bill Wyman, Mick can't sing like he used to, they're a Vegas act since '89, they're greedy, they haven't done anything worthwhile since '69--'72--'81--take your pick, the new Greatest Hits album is an insult, the new song is horrible...and on an on and on...yet you want to go to the shows??? Why? So you can stand there with your arms folded and a scowl on your face the whole time, impatient to get back to your computer and tell everyone how awful Keith's playing was, etc., etc...
If I were the Stones I would rather take may chances with a bunch of people who knew a few songs and had the money to spend to go and just have a good time. The "real fans" on this board deserve nothing--their reward is the "thrill" they get from their infantile, incessant complaining and moaning and whining...they are just SO knowledgeable. Get a life and stop coming here if you hate them so much, "real fans." You won't be missed.
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

I've been a fan since '73, got all the albums, a few bits and pieces in the rarities section, numerous boots, enjoy, Brian, Mick T. and Ron's contributions, not bothered by Keith's occaisional ballsups or Mick's for that matter or the cash they've made to this point and only dislike 3 songs in the whole catalogue, including Dirty Work and Mick and Keith's solo stuff.
But even I've come to the point where I'm thinking the level of greed on display here is embarrassing to the point where I'm having to re-evaluate my attitude towards these blokes and make it known in my social circle of casual and non Stones fans.
Actually I'm feeling a bit foolish as sooooooooooooooooo many casual and seasoned observers have over the years described the picture of them that they are portraying now.
There is no reason why they couldn't have put on a few shows at reasonable prices.....£100 - £150 and still made a small fortune off the PPV and merchandisng .. Rolling Stones?.........more like the Hoarding Crones......................
Mick Jagger? Never made much of a secret of his love of cash but Keith 'Hey, you can keep the money' Richards though, should have called his book Liar...

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I think the section in the centre of the tongue should be reserved (free) for IORRers with 2,155 posts or more.

And free beer of course.

that's such a random number...from a random computer...or something....

and back stage passes with VIP treatment if you have more than 4300 posts

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Group Hug! I love you all too....StonesTod, CousinC, Treaclefingers & Munichhilton....I must admit that I was hesitant about expressing my real feelings and now that I have I feel really sad. I take no pleasure in any of this because I was SO looking forward to celebrating their 50th Anniversary in style!! I just feel I have reached my limit, and someone expressed it really well in another thread when he said it was just plain " stupid" to accept these prices. I am so depressed I can't even cheer myself up by thinking there will be other shows in 2013 that might be less expensive...there may be MORE shows but who's to say they will be affordable??
Anyway, thanks for the support, everyone. We can all cry in our beer together.

Keep a stiff upper lip! There will be shows in 2013 and if they're touring anywhere except London and NYC, they will be cheaper.

And, as unrocknroll as it is, you can still do the PPV thing for $50 and enjoy from the comfort of home, with friends. Why not order it up and invite StonesTod, CousinC, Munich and me?!

something about those beer tears turns me off...if mc can promise not to drip into my suds, then i'm down....

There's really nothing wrong with watered down beer...after a while you just get used to it unfortunately

yeah, but it's kinda salty-water. ick!

but as the thread title says - nobody is forcing me to go to mc's for the ppv. nothing personal, mc....

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I think the section in the centre of the tongue should be reserved (free) for IORRers with 2,155 posts or more.

And free beer of course.

that's such a random number...from a random computer...or something....

and back stage passes with VIP treatment if you have more than 4300 posts

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Swiss - are you really comparing health care and gas to Stones shows? I don't think our need to see Mick do calesthenics for two hours, as fun as that is, compares to someone's need for chemotherapy.

elastic vs. inelastic items, for those who remember econ 101

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ZantiMisfit
This board is hysterical--these are the "real fans" that the Stones are supposed to reward??? As long as I've read this board it's been nothing but people complaining--Keith can't play anymore, A Bigger Bang--the album & tour--sucked, Ronnie Wood is awful, Chuck Leavell is terrible, Darryl Jones is no Bill Wyman, Mick can't sing like he used to, they're a Vegas act since '89, they're greedy, they haven't done anything worthwhile since '69--'72--'81--take your pick, the new Greatest Hits album is an insult, the new song is horrible...and on an on and on...yet you want to go to the shows??? Why? So you can stand there with your arms folded and a scowl on your face the whole time, impatient to get back to your computer and tell everyone how awful Keith's playing was, etc., etc...
If I were the Stones I would rather take may chances with a bunch of people who knew a few songs and had the money to spend to go and just have a good time. The "real fans" on this board deserve nothing--their reward is the "thrill" they get from their infantile, incessant complaining and moaning and whining...they are just SO knowledgeable. Get a life and stop coming here if you hate them so much, "real fans." You won't be missed.
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

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carlostones10
If you don´t want ... don´t buy. but don´t disturb who want to buy records and tickets.

is this a command ?

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MickRichards
BOTTOM LINE!! The Greatest R&R Band in the world. They are worth every cent. If you can't go, quit bitching. One day they will be gone. What will you bitch about then. As far as Doom & Gloom is concerned, it's a typical Stones song. Immediately recognizable as them. And a good rocking song from men this age.
They have ultimate respect in the music industry. They are all we have left.
Enjoy them if you can.

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As far as Doom & Gloom is concerned, it's a typical Stones song. Immediately recognizable as them. And a good rocking song from men this age.
They have ultimate respect in the music industry. They are all we have left.
Enjoy them if you can.

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MickRichards
Sorry but this is not a GIFT. If this is what you call exciting I think I'll pass. Same old song rehash over and over again. Two new numbers. It will probably flop. I can't really think of who they are trying to appeal to with this regurgitated mess. Someone has really dropped the ball here or has completely lost touch with thier true fans.

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ZantiMisfit
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

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ZantiMisfit
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

In 1969, gas was 25 cents per gallon. You can do the math on adjustments for inflation yourself--and the current ticket prices are still way over the top in comparison to 1969 rates.

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ZantiMisfit
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

In 1969, gas was 25 cents per gallon. You can do the math on adjustments for inflation yourself--and the current ticket prices are still way over the top in comparison to 1969 rates.

I like me a bit of math. Let's say gas is on average $4 a gallon in the US (I know, more elsewhere but we're using the US Gas price from '69 as the base).

That means gas has increased 16-fold since 1969.

Therefore, to get to today's ticket price using the $6.50 base provided, we would get a ticket price of $104.00.

SO, that is what you'd likely be paying for the cheap seats at a Stones concert. If you were paying the bendover price, multiply it by another 5-7.

The question is, did 1969 get you front and centre floor seats? If they were nosebleeds, that means ticket prices are basically the same now as then.

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As far as Doom & Gloom is concerned, it's a typical Stones song. Immediately recognizable as them. And a good rocking song from men this age.
They have ultimate respect in the music industry. They are all we have left.
Enjoy them if you can.

First of all, who gives a shit if the music industry respects them -- how is that interesting or relevant to anyone here?
Second, you might wanna remember what you said like a day ago about Doom & Gloom.

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MickRichards
Sorry but this is not a GIFT. If this is what you call exciting I think I'll pass. Same old song rehash over and over again. Two new numbers. It will probably flop. I can't really think of who they are trying to appeal to with this regurgitated mess. Someone has really dropped the ball here or has completely lost touch with thier true fans.

Did someone threaten you in a dark alleyway if you didn't start acting like a properly fanatical sycophantic fan? LOL

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ZantiMisfit
For the record--people were complaining about the high ticket prices for the '69 tour. They were $6.50.

In 1969, gas was 25 cents per gallon. You can do the math on adjustments for inflation yourself--and the current ticket prices are still way over the top in comparison to 1969 rates.

I like me a bit of math. Let's say gas is on average $4 a gallon in the US (I know, more elsewhere but we're using the US Gas price from '69 as the base).

That means gas has increased 16-fold since 1969.

Therefore, to get to today's ticket price using the $6.50 base provided, we would get a ticket price of $104.00.

SO, that is what you'd likely be paying for the cheap seats at a Stones concert. If you were paying the bendover price, multiply it by another 5-7.

The question is, did 1969 get you front and centre floor seats? If they were nosebleeds, that means ticket prices are basically the same now as then.

Weren't they just general admission in those days? Their mega-stadium tours with all the circus and overhead didn't come until years later. Perhaps the gas baseline is a faulty measure, because gas has also increased 3- to 4-fold since 2001. Let's use this benchmark instead: What was the value of the dollar in 1969 compared to now. I would think, off the top of my head, that it would be something like 6 to 10 times higher in 1969 compared to now...

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"you can still do the PPV thing for $50"

50? Ten to fifteen bucks would be a reasonable amount...

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As far as Doom & Gloom is concerned, it's a typical Stones song. Immediately recognizable as them. And a good rocking song from men this age.
They have ultimate respect in the music industry. They are all we have left.
Enjoy them if you can.

First of all, who gives a shit if the music industry respects them -- how is that interesting or relevant to anyone here?

Second, you might wanna remember what you said like a day ago about Doom & Gloom.

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Sorry but this is not a GIFT. If this is what you call exciting I think I'll pass. Same old song rehash over and over again. Two new numbers. It will probably flop. I can't really think of who they are trying to appeal to with this regurgitated mess. Someone has really dropped the ball here or has completely lost touch with thier true fans.

Did someone threaten you in a dark alleyway if you didn't start acting like a properly fanatical sycophantic fan? LOL

Good lord Swiss, you got a case of the nasties. Aren't the Swiss supposed to be neutral?

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As far as Doom & Gloom is concerned, it's a typical Stones song. Immediately recognizable as them. And a good rocking song from men this age.
They have ultimate respect in the music industry. They are all we have left.
Enjoy them if you can.

First of all, who gives a shit if the music industry respects them -- how is that interesting or relevant to anyone here?

Second, you might wanna remember what you said like a day ago about Doom & Gloom.

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MickRichards
Sorry but this is not a GIFT. If this is what you call exciting I think I'll pass. Same old song rehash over and over again. Two new numbers. It will probably flop. I can't really think of who they are trying to appeal to with this regurgitated mess. Someone has really dropped the ball here or has completely lost touch with thier true fans.

Did someone threaten you in a dark alleyway if you didn't start acting like a properly fanatical sycophantic fan? LOL

Good lord Swiss, you got a case of the nasties. Aren't the Swiss supposed to be neutral?

Treacle, I'm not from Switzerland and I'm not Swiss. My nickname is swiss as in Army knife - multifaceted. But do you care if the Rolling Stones are esteemed by the music industry? Is that now our benchmark of their value?

And some guy swaggering around spouting off at other people for not liking Doom & Gloom, when like a day earlier he was ripping into them for same? Someone had to call that out.

And, yes, I am massively bummed at how divisive this-all is turning out to be. It is as bad as the US Presidential elections----and frankly seems to be along just about the same economic class lines. It's ugly. I have far less money than I did 2 years ago, but I'm still from the privileged set, and yet I can't understand how cavalier many people are about $800 tkt prices and the implications to those who can't afford it. I'm seeing grotesque displays of greed. Especially given so many people are hurting economically. And so many people seem either oblivious or contemptuous. It makes me realize, yeah...maybe these aren't my people at all.

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What I find most loathsome is not even the ticket prices, but the attitude of those that are going, towards those that truly and legitimately would love to go but can't afford it.

Complete lack of empathy or sense of camaraderie. Just a sense of entitlement.