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That's a tough one, because I like the GUY... I love his attitude. I love what he WANTS to do. I just think he's gone about it the wrong way. These are just my opinions, and OK, I'll annoy the lot of you. Bruce? Too contrived for me. Too overblown.
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Yes, very well said Keith!!



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From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

Keith's entitled to his opinion especially as he's right - in my opinion!

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Harlem Shuffler

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

Keith's entitled to his opinion especially as he's right - in my opinion!

Not mine, I'm with Doxa (once again). It's a man who's bascially saying...

"I don't understand where music is at anymore. Mick has his finger on the PULSE of today's culture - and I don't. So instead of having an open mind I'm going to trash something I have NO understanding of, and sound like a complete ignorant old ass doing it. And all those twit-fans/worshippers of mine who are as out-of-touch as me are going to raise their fists in agreement because they eat up any bull$#!t I say. To them it all sounds like 'Gold rings got that swing with the blade and tigers and Chuck Berry songs for dead blondes and snort me dad, baby, etc' Anyways, read my book yet?".

I remember this quote, among others.
Yup, 1997. The year I stopped caring about anything Keith Richrads says.

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Harlem Shuffler

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

Keith's entitled to his opinion especially as he's right - in my opinion!

Not mine, I'm with Doxa (once again). It's a man who's bascially saying...

"I don't understand where music is at anymore. Mick has his finger on the PULSE of today's culture - and I don't. So instead of having an open mind I'm going to trash something I have NO understanding of, and sound like a complete ignorant old ass doing it. And all those twit-fans/worshippers of mine who are as out-of-touch as me are going to raise their fists in agreement because they eat up any bull$#!t I say. To them it all sounds like 'Gold rings got that swing with the blade and tigers and Chuck Berry songs for dead blondes and snort me dad, baby, etc' Anyways, read my book yet?".

I remember this quote, among others.
Yup, 1997. The year I stopped caring about anything Keith Richrads says.

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Doxa

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

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Harlem Shuffler

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Doxa

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uhbuhgullayew
From the link:

RAP

I mean, I've had enough of bloody rap. (Imitates rap over knee-slapped beat.) I mean, Mary had a little lamb, her fleece was white as @#$%& snow. What's the attraction of that? This is kindergarten shit. It's like karaoke. But I'm making records that people can listen to. Obviously, the attraction is there, until they all shoot each other - and they're doing a good job of it. If you want to hear good rap, you should listen to early Jamaican dub, which is some really interesting stuff. At least they didn't keep it to just one meter.

- Keith Richards, 1997


All right Keith!!

Actually I see it kind of sad the old man and professional in the business has the need to bash the music teenagers listen to. That as uncool at it could be. Some dignity, please.

- Doxa

Keith's entitled to his opinion especially as he's right - in my opinion!

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Denny
Exactly - and true about the single reggae "exception" that Richards makes, too! Anyway, KR thinking that hip-hop is all "Mary had a little lamb" (where did he get that idea from?) is never going to be relevant to anyone who KNOWS hip-hop. It reminds me when George Harrison was saying the same nonsense in the eighties. Chuck D's reply in the press was "I would take it to heart if it was Lennon or McCartney ... but (Harrison is) third string, maybe fourth string behind Ringo". Nice little comeback there.

Of course, like much commercial rock music, the bulk of commercial-minded hip-hop is in fact totally banal, but anyway...

The bizarre thing is that even though Jagger has always been into RnB, club music, and all manner of esoteric weird stuff from around the world, when he makes solo records, he gets ROB THOMAS of all people to help him out (making the Rhythm Kings sound like musical revolutionaries in the process)! Even in Superheavy, all those varied influences from everyone just didn't add up to anything "different". Funny how conservative he has been in regards to his own career - apart from some awesome left-field things like a few of the "Undercover" tracks etc (yes, I know a lot of people hate those, blah blah blah)...

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Justin
...and what exactly has Mick said or done to show how much he loves rap?...besides of course that small bit he did with Bernard on "Anybody Seen My Baby?"

The only difference is that Mick hasn't been quoted about his thoughts on rap but if he were...he would sugar coat his answer way more neutral than Keith did. So now we're throwing tomatoes at Keith just because he expressed himself honestly? He was writing some pretty good music in 1997 so the dude has license to say whatever the f he wants. Why anyone is taking his comments so bloody seriously is beyond me. What do I care what he thinks of rap? I don't need his approval to like or hate it.

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Justin
...and what exactly has Mick said or done to show how much he loves rap?...besides of course that small bit he did with Bernard on "Anybody Seen My Baby?"

The only difference is that Mick hasn't been quoted about his thoughts on rap but if he were...he would sugar coat his answer way more neutral than Keith did. So now we're throwing tomatoes at Keith just because he expressed himself honestly? He was writing some pretty good music in 1997 so the dude has license to say whatever the f he wants. Why anyone is taking his comments so bloody seriously is beyond me. What do I care what he thinks of rap? I don't need his approval to like or hate it.

I am too lazy to look for the exact quotes, but during the publicity for Surperheavy and Some Girls reissue Mick talked about his love for rap - in the context of talking about the songs he did with D. Marley or how he studied the rap scene in the late 70s (the results are evident in the Shattered)

I do not think Jagger sugar coats his views. There are people who know how to express their opinion without sound rude or disrespectful, this is achieved by education, intelligence and experience. This is called dignity.

You do a mistake, Justin (as Richards himself though) replacing the honesty with vulgarity

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its good to be anywhere
Keith on Bruce Springsteen:

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That's a tough one, because I like the GUY... I love his attitude. I love what he WANTS to do. I just think he's gone about it the wrong way. These are just my opinions, and OK, I'll annoy the lot of you. Bruce? Too contrived for me. Too overblown.
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Yes, very well said Keith!!

Over many years I have read different musical publications featuring interviews with Keith Richards. Although I have thrown away many of these (in an effort to reduce my packrat tendencies), I tended to notice that when asked about other musicians, Keith more often than not tended to be disparaging. This inclination was confirmed even more when reading Bill German's Under Their Thumb. To quote Bill from the chapter "Mick and Keith on the Couch", pg 219: "Mick's desire to be hip and well connected might have driven Keith crazy...In the seven years since the band last toured (referring from 1982-89), Mick had investgated a lot of new music and had affiliated with a lot of young and successful bands. He was intent on bringing that to bear on the Stones. Keith, of course, rejected that notion. He viewed Mick's musical cronies (Duran Duran, Paul Young, Eurythmics) as flavors of the month..." Per Bill German, "If there was one thing that bugged me about Keith, it was that he could be too dismissive when it came to new music. If you weren't a hunchbacked blind black dude from the Mississippi Delta, Keith wasn't interested in you."

Now, this next thought may certainly piss some people off on this board, but as long as we have opened up this topic, so be it. When it comes to Bruce (who it is no secret that I think is a great entertainer/musician/songwriter), in my humble opinion, I have always felt that the Stones were jealous of him and that probably goes back to the 1970's. I remember reading an article in Rolling Stone covering the Some Girls tour in 78 (it has been a long time so I'm not certain if the correspondent was Chet Flippo?) Anyway, the author had surmised and reported in RS that people in the Stones camp were clearly pissed that even though the Stones were selling the tickets, it was Springsteen who was getting the rave reviews (at the time he was touring Darkness). So yes, I can understand why dear Mr. Richards would want to diss the Boss or anybody that he deems a threat to swiping the Rolling Stones crown...

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Justin
...and what exactly has Mick said or done to show how much he loves rap?...besides of course that small bit he did with Bernard on "Anybody Seen My Baby?"

The only difference is that Mick hasn't been quoted about his thoughts on rap but if he were...he would sugar coat his answer way more neutral than Keith did. So now we're throwing tomatoes at Keith just because he expressed himself honestly? He was writing some pretty good music in 1997 so the dude has license to say whatever the f he wants. Why anyone is taking his comments so bloody seriously is beyond me. What do I care what he thinks of rap? I don't need his approval to like or hate it.

I am too lazy to look for the exact quotes, but during the publicity for Surperheavy and Some Girls reissue Mick talked about his love for rap - in the context of talking about the songs he did with D. Marley or how he studied the rap scene in the late 70s (the results are evident in the Shattered)

I do not think Jagger sugar coats his views. There are people who know how to express their opinion without sound rude or disrespectful, this is achieved by education, intelligence and experience. This is called dignity.

You do a mistake, Justin (as Richards himself though) replacing the honesty with vulgarity