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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
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I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
It is not that rare damage, you see it on lots of late 60's and '70's Gibson's. You can have it easily fixed for the same amount of money as buying a cheap acoustic, and many luthiers (especially in the US) can do it. There's a bunch of good luthiers in Austin for example.
I would fix the Hummingbird, and play it every day. It is a fantastic instrument, but not vintage are interesting to collectors -it really is a player. Value when in perfect nick is max $2000, most go for around $1500. Play it and enjoy it!
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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
peace
I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
It is not that rare damage, you see it on lots of late 60's and '70's Gibson's. You can have it easily fixed for the same amount of money as buying a cheap acoustic, and many luthiers (especially in the US) can do it. There's a bunch of good luthiers in Austin for example.
I would fix the Hummingbird, and play it every day. It is a fantastic instrument, but not vintage are interesting to collectors -it really is a player. Value when in perfect nick is max $2000, most go for around $1500. Play it and enjoy it!
Mathijs
I agree with Mathijs. I have a 1965 Hummingbird and it is a fantastic guitar. I play it everyday. When it needs adjusting or repairs I take it to Ray's Heart of Texas Music in Austin, TX. Their guitar tech John is the only person I would allow to work on that guitar and my 1954 Tele.
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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
peace
I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
It is not that rare damage, you see it on lots of late 60's and '70's Gibson's. You can have it easily fixed for the same amount of money as buying a cheap acoustic, and many luthiers (especially in the US) can do it. There's a bunch of good luthiers in Austin for example.
I would fix the Hummingbird, and play it every day. It is a fantastic instrument, but not vintage are interesting to collectors -it really is a player. Value when in perfect nick is max $2000, most go for around $1500. Play it and enjoy it!
Mathijs
I agree with Mathijs. I have a 1965 Hummingbird and it is a fantastic guitar. I play it everyday. When it needs adjusting or repairs I take it to Ray's Heart of Texas Music in Austin, TX. Their guitar tech John is the only person I would allow to work on that guitar and my 1954 Tele.
How do you date your Hummingbird. When I bought it, I was told 67-69, then another guy told me 71-73...
I've checked my serial number, but nothing is concrete.
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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
peace
Thanks! What about Taylors? My niece wants a Taylor, and me, being old school, can't get past my love for Gibson and Martin to give my blessing.
I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
You are talking to a guy who is pretty rough on instruments, I have broken guitars both completely along the soundboard and also completely along the sides, the whole instrument coming into two pieces almost.
The first was an ovation which I'll try to post pictures of when it was clamped up for the repair. Cant remember which site I used uploading pictures but check a bit later and I'll add it. It will bring a smile to your face. Like the intensive care unit for guitars...clamps everywhere...
The second was my #1 Taylor acoustic which was like a favorite son or maybe more to me. I was in shock really, took the thing down to Sylvan Music in Santa Cruz CA, and Al and Gregg the two luthiers put it back together perfectly nicely and sturdily. actually put another row of those flexible wooden tiny lines of bracing that you see when you look in the guitar where the back meets the sides. The best part is that they are good and loving about it that they changed the sound in a most wonderful way, I'm pretty picky about acoustic sound and yes they did me a grand job in that repair. Charged me a very reasonable fee too.
They routinely do stuff like neck resets which require breaking necks off old Martins. Serious luthiery. peace
YES your guitar can be fixed..... peace
Thanks! What about Taylors? My niece wants a Taylor, and me, being old school, can't get past my allegiance to Gibson and Martin enough to give my blessing.
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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
peace
I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
It is not that rare damage, you see it on lots of late 60's and '70's Gibson's. You can have it easily fixed for the same amount of money as buying a cheap acoustic, and many luthiers (especially in the US) can do it. There's a bunch of good luthiers in Austin for example.
I would fix the Hummingbird, and play it every day. It is a fantastic instrument, but not vintage are interesting to collectors -it really is a player. Value when in perfect nick is max $2000, most go for around $1500. Play it and enjoy it!
Mathijs
I agree with Mathijs. I have a 1965 Hummingbird and it is a fantastic guitar. I play it everyday. When it needs adjusting or repairs I take it to Ray's Heart of Texas Music in Austin, TX. Their guitar tech John is the only person I would allow to work on that guitar and my 1954 Tele.
How do you date your Hummingbird. When I bought it, I was told 67-69, then another guy told me 71-73...
I've checked my serial number, but nothing is concrete.
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IMO, the Squire Classic Vibe sereis are very good. I have a Classic Vibe '50s Telecaster. For a £220.00 guitar, it's damn impressive.
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How do you tell if an Epiphone hollow-body has American/Gibson parts? Because that would be the deciding factor for me. This might be the way to go for me. The John Lennon Casino looks real nice.
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Only Custom Shop Fender instruments are truly American.
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Only Custom Shop Fender instruments are truly American.
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What? C'mon now that is a braod statement and many guitar makers would have to disagree with you there.
In fact I have a beautiful Custom Shop Fender Stratocaster that was made in Japan..yes, of course before they closed down that shop for alledgedly producing better instruments than the American Custom shop, or that's what I heard. It is a piece of art and plays like a dream.
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How do you tell if an Epiphone hollow-body has American/Gibson parts? Because that would be the deciding factor for me. This might be the way to go for me. The John Lennon Casino looks real nice.
Very simple. No Epiphone has American parts! All Epi's since 2002 are built in China, before that in Korea. Some models are built in Japan, Chech Republic and Indonesia. There's just a very few models built in the US, and that's the limited acoustic series of Texan and Frontier. The John Lennon Casino was built in Japan.
But if it's a deciding factor for you...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA, and in the case of Fender most guitars of the standard line are made outside of the USA -the wood is non-American, cut and shaped in Japan or Mexico, lacquered and painted in Mexico, then brought in to the USA and assembled. Only Custom Shop Fender instruments are truly American.
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How do you tell if an Epiphone hollow-body has American/Gibson parts? Because that would be the deciding factor for me. This might be the way to go for me. The John Lennon Casino looks real nice.
Very simple. No Epiphone has American parts! All Epi's since 2002 are built in China, before that in Korea. Some models are built in Japan, Chech Republic and Indonesia. There's just a very few models built in the US, and that's the limited acoustic series of Texan and Frontier. The John Lennon Casino was built in Japan.
But if it's a deciding factor for you...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA, and in the case of Fender most guitars of the standard line are made outside of the USA -the wood is non-American, cut and shaped in Japan or Mexico, lacquered and painted in Mexico, then brought in to the USA and assembled. Only Custom Shop Fender instruments are truly American.
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That ain't right - I'll just quote a guy who did the Corona California tour:
>>The Corona, CA factory does All MIA instruments, all Fender Custom Shop, Jackson, Charvel, and Gretsch custom shop instruments as well, though the other brands weren't represented much on the tour. Found out the Corona plant does most of the pickguards, and necks for Ensenada up to the shape & fret stage. Then Mexico will do their own final sanding and finishing.
Overall I was pretty impressed with the factory. There was quite a bit of hand work - once the bodies and necks are rough-finished by the CNC tooling everything else is pretty much done by hand. Someone asked directly what the differences are between MIM & MIA for example, and aside from hardware, one big difference is the piece-count for bodies: MIA are typically no more than 3 piece bodies, but can be 4 for solid colors. MIM can be up to 7 we were told.<<
[www.tdpri.com]
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...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA...
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...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA...
check out this slidesho of the Corona factory:
[www.pbase.com]
you're probably right about the nitro spaying I suppose.
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Very simple. No Epiphone has American parts!
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...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA...
check out this slidesho of the Corona factory:
[www.pbase.com]
you're probably right about the nitro spaying I suppose.
Sorry, I meant parts as in tuners, bridges and pickups. Neck and body is not 'parts' to me.
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]\ why don't you just get that Hummingbird fixed?[/i] It is easily done in the hand of a competent luthier these days. Guitars are meant for playing not sitting around waiting for your kids to inherit them or fall to disuse because they are too valuable to play. It's your life man, enjoy those vintage instruments while you still can!
peace
Thanks! What about Taylors? My niece wants a Taylor, and me, being old school, can't get past my love for Gibson and Martin to give my blessing.
I love my Hummingbird. It has a about an 8-inch crack. Actually it looks more like a protrusion because its slightly raised. Im guessing its heat damage. But I'm cautious to just take it to just anybody.
Is that even fixable?
You are talking to a guy who is pretty rough on instruments, I have broken guitars both completely along the soundboard and also completely along the sides, the whole instrument coming into two pieces almost.
The first was an ovation which I'll try to post pictures of when it was clamped up for the repair. Cant remember which site I used uploading pictures but check a bit later and I'll add it. It will bring a smile to your face. Like the intensive care unit for guitars...clamps everywhere...
The second was my #1 Taylor acoustic which was like a favorite son or maybe more to me. I was in shock really, took the thing down to Sylvan Music in Santa Cruz CA, and Al and Gregg the two luthiers put it back together perfectly nicely and sturdily. actually put another row of those flexible wooden tiny lines of bracing that you see when you look in the guitar where the back meets the sides. The best part is that they are good and loving about it that they changed the sound in a most wonderful way, I'm pretty picky about acoustic sound and yes they did me a grand job in that repair. Charged me a very reasonable fee too.
They routinely do stuff like neck resets which require breaking necks off old Martins. Serious luthiery. peace
YES your guitar can be fixed..... peace
Thanks! What about Taylors? My niece wants a Taylor, and me, being old school, can't get past my allegiance to Gibson and Martin enough to give my blessing.
Taylors are getting better and better and they wear well to become grand vintage instruments too. Mine is a 1999 510-AB which is a drednaught style with abalone inlay, I've put pick ups mics and gotoh tuners on it because I play it most often. It's been a joy. Sounds vintage probably because of all the wear, check the to YouTube in 30 minutes thread and listen to that, it's the Taylor.
What's really impressive are the new Taylor electrics. I played one last week and was in the uncomfortable position of really pining for something for a long long time. lol They are sweet, play like electrics but set up like acoustics and switchable very usuable tones. Loved them.
The main thing is to play the different guitars before you buy, if you could just be handed different guitars blindfolded and not see the cost you might be amazed at what guitar speaks to you....I always believed they found you somehow and not the other way around. Mathijs has great advice I have read here too above. Good luck. peace
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No, you said:and that indeed is a broad statement and not true.Quote
...about each and every part of any standard Gibson or Fender is made outside the USA...
check out this slidesho of the Corona factory:
[www.pbase.com]
you're probably right about the nitro spaying I suppose.
Sorry, I meant parts as in tuners, bridges and pickups. Neck and body is not 'parts' to me.
Mathijs
That's also debatable
tuners - Fender never made their own. first it was Kluson, then Schaller, Gotoh and Ping.
bridges - they still make the vintage ones in Corona.
the modern style bridges are imported Gotoh's.
pickups are also made by Fender in the U.S. not all of the variety and depending on the guitar model of course.
in the TDPRI link above you can see Abygail still at the job about 50 years later.
neck and body were designd by Leo to be inter-changeable bolt-on parts.
if you have a problem with the neck of a new Fender under warranty they will replace it with an original new one. not a licensed by Fender.
ok, I don't want to be nitpickin' here - just saying, also debatable
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Would this be a good time to remind everyone with wooden accoutics to re dampen your sponge thingys.... .
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Would this be a good time to remind everyone with wooden accoutics to re dampen your sponge thingys.... .
I beg your pardon?