Browsing through interviews posted on here today, I have the sense that he has taken an interest in kindness (to go along with a British interest in certain manifstations of good manners).

It's a good evolution to pick up on, really, if it's so. He even uses the word "kind" or "kindness" numerous times in post-milennial interviews.

He seems happier, which makes him seem more open, nicer.
I've liked the Mick of the last 10 years.

He doesn't steal my lunch money or push me into the mud anymore.

Most people mellow with age.

He seems to have mellowed to me. I don't know though. All I know is from interviews, and he seems a little more diplomatic than he sometimes was. Though I guess it depends on the interviewer. And I'm sure after decades of doing interviews he could have learned to suffer the same old questions with a smile, or just gotten used to it.

On that same note Keith seems to have mellowed too. In older interviews he always seemed detached, angry, etc. These days he always seems to have a big old grin on his face and takes it all with a sense of humor.

At least this is the face they put on in public, don't know if it's real. I like to think of them as nice guys though.

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GumbootCloggeroo
He doesn't steal my lunch money or push me into the mud anymore.

nice.

Mick's gotten nicer but Charlie's mean streak has increased dramatically. Here's a photo of him kicking over his drums a few months ago after finding out that his horse lost the big race:

Most people mellow with... gobs of money.

Mick knows he'll never be f@cked with ever again, he'll never have to deal with an Allen Klein, he'll never have someone from the label telling him the cover art for his next album is unsuitable etc etc...

Which Mick?

He's a great bunch of people.

Mellow Mick has always been around.

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GravityBoy
Which Mick?

He's a great bunch of people.

Mellow Mick has always been around.

'Mellow Mick' seems more consistent these days though....
I'm sure age has a lot to do with it. Plus, I imagine all those kids has mellowed, rooted him. He seems to truly enjoy his very large family.

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GumbootCloggeroo
Mick's gotten nicer but Charlie's mean streak has increased dramatically. Here's a photo of him kicking over his drums a few months ago after finding out that his horse lost the big race:

hahahahaha

I think Mick is being extremely tough on Keith and Stones fans at the moment.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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superrevvy
I think Mick is being extremely tough on Keith and Stones fans at the moment.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Perhaps. He's also a musician, and musicians have highly developed instincts for TIMING. If you can figure out the right rhythm for a classic song, maybe you can work about a good timing to do an album and a tour. Wait...wait...wait...as Keith says, silence is the canvas.

Mick tough on KEITH!?? Joking, right? And Mick has always been sweet when approached properly. I'm glad he's happy now, in sapite of Keith. Living well is INDEED the best revenge!

I jes love these kind of fantasy threads.

What you think, Rockman?

Is that Mick a better boy or is still a bad 'un?

Mick is reaping the harvest of all his shrewd planning and efforts. He's got all his ducks in a row and life is sweet.

In fact, if it hadn't been for that damn book of Keith's, life would be just about perfect.

Sir Mick Mellow Jagger is now a Knight of the Realm and friend of Presidents.

Sir Mick has also voiced the thought that he would not write Brown Sugar these days.

Has Mick the broken wheeled butterfly voice of a generation arguing with Bishops and Lords on Granada TV changed?

Mick didn't mellow, he got assimilated by the establishment borg.

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Bliss
Mick is reaping the harvest of all his shrewd planning and efforts. He's got all his ducks in a row and life is sweet.

In fact, if it hadn't been for that damn book of Keith's, life would be just about perfect.

Mick cannot yet reap the harvest of all his shrewd planning and efforts.
He's got all his ducks in a row for the next phase of his career, but is
still hamstrung by Keith and the Stones.

But he thanks God everyday for that book of Keith's, as it has given him
all the cover he needs to slowly disentangle himself from his old bandmate.

(photo from last week in NYC, I'm pretty sure)





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>>But he thanks God everyday for that book of Keith's, as it has given him all the cover he needs to slowly disentangle himself from his old bandmate.

I think you might be right, Rev, if what Mick truly yearns for is the resurgence of his solo career at the 11th hour. But it is all about the bottom line for him -$- and I think he would like to milk the 50th for as much as possible. If that is the case, Keith's book is a disaster. Two competing instincts.

But few can deny that Mick does seem very content over the last years. He has become the person he was always meant to be; rich, admired, well-connected, and loved.

Mick has always been nice

...Wandering Stone...

Noblesse Oblige.The guy is after a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (GBE) now. Then he must behave himself.

1) Agreed, Mick is very very together. I mean, he was very together, on
most levels, even when he was a mess on some. But he's an inspiration,
the way he's worked it all through, even though he didn't have to (because
of how rich he is, he could have easily let his issues slide).

2) I think if there was still a LOT of money to be made touring with the
Stones, Mick would be content doing what he did last time, carrying Keith
to some extent. But the costs have gotten so exhoritant, and the audience
expectations for spectacle so high, and the average fan's budget so pinched,
that a BIG net profit is no longer possible. And for the Stones to do it
small instead, I don't see the point in that.

3) I've no doubt that Mick could have a personally rewarding solo career
post-Stones, a la Dylan or Neil Young, and maybe Mick'll have to settle for
that, but I think its clear he'd rather continue to play on the world
stage, and not for just a shrinking cult. I mean, if its a shrinking cult
he's after, then it would be much smarter to stick with the Stones.
They've still got the greatest shrinking cult in the world.

4) As I've detailed in other posts of mine, the only way to impact on a
world level these days is on Top 40 radio. Just like when the Stones
started, you've got to have HITS. Worldwide hits, not just US/UK hits.
(There was a news article yesterday about these Chicago high school science
whizzes on a conference call with their counterparts in Ghana, Africa and
the Chicago kids were stunned that the African kids were listening to
the exact same music).

5) Mick's voice is no longer acceptable on hits radio or music television,
at least not as the sole front person.

6) I still think the plug was pulled on SuperHeavy by Mick out of respect
for Keith and Stones fans, to give the Stones one more try (which doesn't
seem to have worked out). Meantime, I'm guessing, the Heavies have had
a chance to secretly carefully collaboratively compose (and maybe
even record) their next 20 or 30 songs, with an eye towards the radio
and the HUGE Bob Marley and AR Rahman and diva fanbases.
Compose as opposed to simply refining a quick jam session like
their first record. All it would take is 2 or 3 big Joss-and-Damian-
fronted radio hits for SuperHeavy to break huge, and then tour to monster
crowds, where Jagger's stage savvy and media smarts could be showcased
to huge advantage. These will not be big-spending crowds, but they will be
big and young and enthusiastic. And bopping their heads off to some
very differently arranged, and revitalized, Stones standards, as part
of the show.

7) It seems to have become clear to just about everyone now that the Stones
are ending because of Keith's condition as an artist and not because of
Mick's ego or desire to be a solo star. And if that isn't clear yet, then
Mick's dissolving himself into a group with four other musical geniuses
will hopefully make it clear.

8) It is of course, as always in pop music, a matter of timing. And the
time is not yet. Not quite yet. But I am getting so impatient for the
return of Mick. Rihanna is great and Joss is great and Damian is great,
but Mick is in a class all by himself. It of course won't be 1972 Mick or
1978 Mick but hopefully some 2012 version of Mick/Keith/AndrewOldham
rolled into one. Mick has been practicing guitar and keyboards HARD.

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superrevvy
1) Agreed, Mick is very very together. I mean, he was very together, on
most levels, even when he was a mess on some. But he's an inspiration,
the way he's worked it all through, even though he didn't have to (because
of how rich he is, he could have easily let his issues slide).

2) I think if there was still a LOT of money to be made touring with the
Stones, Mick would be content doing what he did last time, carrying Keith
to some extent. But the costs have gotten so exhoritant, and the audience
expectations for spectacle so high, and the average fan's budget so pinched,
that a BIG net profit is no longer possible. And for the Stones to do it
small instead, I don't see the point in that.

3) I've no doubt that Mick could have a personally rewarding solo career
post-Stones, a la Dylan or Neil Young, and maybe Mick'll have to settle for
that, but I think its clear he'd rather continue to play on the world
stage, and not for just a shrinking cult. I mean, if its a shrinking cult
he's after, then it would be much smarter to stick with the Stones.
They've still got the greatest shrinking cult in the world.

4) As I've detailed in other posts of mine, the only way to impact on a
world level these days is on Top 40 radio. Just like when the Stones
started, you've got to have HITS. Worldwide hits, not just US/UK hits.
(There was a news article yesterday about these Chicago high school science
whizzes on a conference call with their counterparts in Ghana, Africa and
the Chicago kids were stunned that the African kids were listening to
the exact same music).

5) Mick's voice is no longer acceptable on hits radio or music television,
at least not as the sole front person.

6) I still think the plug was pulled on SuperHeavy by Mick out of respect
for Keith and Stones fans, to give the Stones one more try (which doesn't
seem to have worked out). Meantime, I'm guessing, the Heavies have had
a chance to secretly carefully collaboratively compose (and maybe
even record) their next 20 or 30 songs, with an eye towards the radio
and the HUGE Bob Marley and AR Rahman and diva fanbases.
Compose as opposed to simply refining a quick jam session like
their first record. All it would take is 2 or 3 big Joss-and-Damian-
fronted radio hits for SuperHeavy to break huge, and then tour to monster
crowds, where Jagger's stage savvy and media smarts could be showcased
to huge advantage. These will not be big-spending crowds, but they will be
big and young and enthusiastic. And bopping their heads off to some
very differently arranged, and revitalized, Stones standards, as part
of the show.

7) It seems to have become clear to just about everyone now that the Stones
are ending because of Keith's condition as an artist and not because of
Mick's ego or desire to be a solo star. And if that isn't clear yet, then
Mick's dissolving himself into a group with four other musical geniuses
will hopefully make it clear.

8) It is of course, as always in pop music, a matter of timing. And the
time is not yet. Not quite yet. But I am getting so impatient for the
return of Mick. Rihanna is great and Joss is great and Damian is great,
but Mick is in a class all by himself. It of course won't be 1972 Mick or
1978 Mick but hopefully some 2012 version of Mick/Keith/AndrewOldham
rolled into one. Mick has been practicing guitar and keyboards HARD.

hey superrevvy you got my attention you could be right not bad stuff, not bad at all

Interesting point there number 5, Revvy. Probably very valid too.
The most disturbing individual efforts the last decade (or two) in the band has been:

1. Keith´s inabilities as a guitar player.
2. Mick's nasality (or, really, lack of singing voice).
3. The lack of a rock and roll bass player.

If you listen to SAL for example, it's Mick's voice (or lack of it rather) that kills the show.

His ego seems to be less blown up since the late eighties. Charlie Watts said that he got closer to Mick through Jerry Hall and the children.

super wrote:

All it would take is 2 or 3 big Joss-and-Damian-
fronted radio hits for SuperHeavy to break huge, and then tour to monster
crowds, where Jagger's stage savvy and media smarts could be showcased
to huge advantage. These will not be big-spending crowds, but they will be
big and young and enthusiastic. And bopping their heads off to some
very differently arranged, and revitalized, Stones standards, as part
of the show.


I could see this happening.

superrevvy:

Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna.

My take on Superheavy is that it's an unnecessary band. Those Stewart, Jagger collaborations have never been successfull. A hobby project for dropout popstars. Who needs another World Music band?

Superheavy was a one time thing. Did anyone really expect them to last many years and go on many tours and record many albums? No. Another example, Them Crooked Vultures. 4 guys got together and had a little fun and then moved on. I don't think Mick pulled the plug on anything.

I don't think the Stones are over. But, if they are, it would be cool if Mick had the "stones" (pardon the pun) to tour America - possibly playing (gasp) theaters.