(Didn't Prince try this a few years back only to have all such sales
disqualified for chart purposes? Well, apparently the rules have changed
so this will probably start a new trend...)

[www.forbes.com]

Exclusive: Madonna "MDNA" Will Have Biggest Second Week Drop in Chart History

Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last
week, I am told. When all the numbers are in on Tuesday night, “MDNA” will have
fallen from number 1 by 88%–from 359,000 copies in its first week to roughly
46,000 the second week. Wow. The first week’s sales, as I revealed exclusively
(and then the New York Post lifted it from us), most of Madonna’s first week
sales were CDs that were included in the sale of concert tickets.



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For what I know, Prince got away with it in 2004, and that's what changed the rules.

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Handova
For what I know, Prince got away with it in 2004, and that's what changed the rules.

If that's true, its very hard to understand why neither the Stones with
Bigger Bang nor U2 with No Line On The Horizon followed suit, nor Bruce
with Wrecking Ball, nor any other big ticket act that I know of that is/was
having trouble moving as many albums as they once did...

except for now suddenly madonna.

Anybody know for sure?

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Handova
For what I know, Prince got away with it in 2004, and that's what changed the rules.

If that's true, its very hard to understand why neither the Stones with
Bigger Bang nor U2 with No Line On The Horizon followed suit, nor Bruce
with Wrecking Ball, nor any other big ticket act that I know of that is/was
having trouble moving as many albums as they once did...

except for now suddenly madonna.

Anybody know for sure?

Revenue of extra 300.000 sold CD's isn't that big - maybe that's why.
Better people buying real tickets instead.
And to Stones - people don't go to their conserts listening to a new CD - consert goers are barely interested.



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I've argued for this many times before. Even if it isn't a physical CD, but simply a download code on each and every ticket, who cares?

The music gets permeated out to the audience that go to the shows. The ticket buyer feels like they're getting a bonus for the $300+ they're spending for a ticket, and then there is even an argument for more songs from the new album to be played at the show.

If they are including these sales as 'official sales', great. If not, still who cares because the Stones (and almost every other rock act) are not really moving albums anymore...there are other sources of revenue, not least of which are the live shows. Bundling IMHO would be a perfect way to address the new reality.

The stats I heard placed less than 50% of sales as being down to the ticket tie-in. Madonna tends to play lots of her new songs during concerts though so it makes sense to allow the audience to be familiar with them whether they are counted or not.

There have been a few varying reports some saying that the CD was free with the ticket and some suggesting that it cost a bit extra.

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I've argued for this many times before. Even if it isn't a physical CD, but simply a download code on each and every ticket, who cares?

The music gets permeated out to the audience that go to the shows. The ticket buyer feels like they're getting a bonus for the $300+ they're spending for a ticket, and then there is even an argument for more songs from the new album to be played at the show.

If they are including these sales as 'official sales', great. If not, still who cares because the Stones (and almost every other rock act) are not really moving albums anymore...there are other sources of revenue, not least of which are the live shows. Bundling IMHO would be a perfect way to address the new reality.

I completely agree

........this one's for you Superrevvy ......






ROCKMAN

thanks Rockdude. But I think she meant YOU!

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thanks Rockdude. But I think she meant YOU!

That is a great pic!

....yeah cool shot ....Fanks revvy... Dem lips look like a GIANT raspberry wine gum ....



ROCKMAN

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Rockman
....yeah cool shot ....Fanks revvy... Dem lips look like a GIANT raspberry wine gum ....

She also told me, Rock, that she'd like to "take care of you"

Her latest top 10 "take care" has an interesting bit of Rockman-worthy history
about it...

It was at first a 1960 hit for Bobby "Blue" Bland (covered by Etta James
and Elvis Costello among others)

Bland had borrowed it from Brook Benton, a South Carolina singer who spent
much of the ’60s writing hits for pop and R&B stars.

The song then got re-worked by Gil Scott-Heron in the 1970's I think in his
proto-rap style (and some of Gil's vocals can still be heard during the
bridge on the current hit)

Gil's song was radically re-mixed into a minor posthumous hit for Gil in
2010 I think by British producer Jamie XX Smith, and then THAT version was
re-mixed and re-vocalized by Drake and Rihanna into the current very atypical
sounding 2012 hit.

Also atypical is the quiet soft dramatic video, just released, which has
an added background factor: the triangular relationship between Drake
and Rihanna and Chris Brown.

.... Oooow yeah that's a mighty mighty track from Bland's classic Two Steps From The Blues album....


and often the Rockeeee sign off ....

TAKE CARE



ROCKMAN

I always thought bands should actually sell their CD's at concerts at the souvenir stands. If the Stones had their whole catalog for sale at their shows, they would sell thousands over the course of the tour.

sorry, Rockee, but this next message from rih I think is not just for you,
but rather for all of us at IORR...

i've already posted this tweet-pic from her once too many times:



but now i've investigated further. she had two other pics of herself
taken that night, and i really want someone here to claim that she was
NOT intentionally channeling Beggar's Banquet (and don't forget to check
out her lips-and-tongue again in the second photo)

.......heck revvy I thought you'd have a season ticket ta Bat..Bat..Battleship



ROCKMAN

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.......heck revvy I thought you'd have a season ticket ta Bat..Bat..Battleship

i'll probably just enjoy the stills from the film unless i get dragged to
it by my nephews when i'm next in america...

i mean, on the one hand, i admire her balls, but (don't tell her) i really
kinda want her film career to go no further than jagger's. i want her
doing just music, and fashion, and tweets, and scandalous behavior...

A sale is a sale no matter you look at it. Anyway, who cares about Madonna?

i'll probably just enjoy the stills from the film unless i get dragged to
it by my nephews when i'm next in america....


.... But you don't have ta go home ta see it ... it's already invaded down here...gimmie Sunset Boulevard anyday




ROCKMAN

Let's cut to the chase: Any nude Rihanna scenes in that Hollywood $200 million kids movie?

Let's cut to the chase: Any nude Rihanna scenes in that Hollywood $200 million kids movie?


...it don't matter Stoneage .......no amount of T&A is gonna save it



ROCKMAN

Why pick on Madonna? She's just a working girl trying to make a living.

Shouldn't Madonna then take, say a very small, part of her earnings to take care of her brother who is homeless and lives under a bridge? I mean if she has the heart of a working girl...